Malone fired

Chubbs said:
I just get the feeling the "win/losses" line was just a set up to fire malone after what they assumed would be a brutal start.

Then they could fire him and go into "development" mode.

It wasn't working out cause Malone stubbornly won games, but Boogie's illness gave them the opening. Now it's watch the season fall apart time. I'm wondering if that was the plan all along.
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And the sinister part of me wonders if they gave him the virus on purpose.
 
kupman said:
I will go out on a limb here and say that I am giving this thing a chance before getting critical of owner and FO. They do not want to be just good or respectable. They want to be great and are willing to roll the dice aggressively and are willing to do so early. They feel that they can do better than Malone so why prolong the relationship?

There is a chance that this move could be their best move yet and that is really saying something given all that they have accomplished in their short time here. I am just going to watch this thing unfold for awhile.
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They have you fooled don't they.

How do they know they can get better than malone he did a very good job. 2nd hardest schedule in we are still 2 games from 8 seed without cousins. Nobody is winning with Hollins/JT/landry rotation espiscially the way Collison has been playing lately. La/det/orl have more talent than us with boogie gone and gay being the number 1 option.

You keep malone and the team gets closer and you win 40-49 games this year. You make a couple trades to get the bench better in the off season and we make the playoffs easily next year. But no these ****ers don't care about that they want to run and gun how people in here arnt siding with malone is beyond me.
 
rainmaker said:
I'm beginning to wonder if Vivek is catering to the India market, attempting to drum up a style which will be attractive to a somewhat untouched NBA market which doesn't have the acumen/history to understand what wins and what doesn't win this league.

He seems to be playing to a lower common denominator, but one which has vast potential internationally and tens of millions of potential fans. I'm increasingly getting the impression his philosophy/marketing is not aimed at our market but rather capitalizing on a larger, untouched market overseas.
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It's about suburbs in Roseville and Folsom, not Mumbai

It's about 2016-17 ticket prices. They just presume they will be good enough to make the playoffs in two years in the West (we'll see.) Their economic model, which doesn't include any revenue sharing when the new arena opens, is based upon massive ticket price hikes.

To ensure they meet their economic goals (protect Viveck's wallet), they aren't banking on just the additional sales following both a good team and the new arena buzz. They are concerned that casual fans, particularly casual fans that loved the Webber Divac glory days won't be super excited to watch a team that plays like Jeff Van Gundy's Rockets. The idea is that many casual fans have tuned out for years (some truth), and when they start watching or catch a game in person some will say, "This team is so boring. It's not like the old days." (really?) PDA has clearly been giving the marching orders that Viveck's financial models require the team to be BOTH very good and very entertaining in 1 and 3/4 seasons.

It's no accident that PDA keeps talking about the new arena. It's the goal and deadline to determine whether he's going to keep his job. How many times this summer did he say "We want to be a good team when the arena opens."

We are a small market team with a decent roster. PDA has been ordered not just to make the team a fringe contender, but to make them an entertaining fringe contender. I can't stand PDA, but to his credit he's been giving unreasonable goals by an owner that doesn't understand what he's asking for is close to impossible.
 
Double-K said:
Then why don't you keep Malone and fire him at the end of the season if you don't actually have an immediate replacement?
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PDA / Mullin win power struggle and remove opposing viewpoint in room.

Viveck believes he can apply his silicon valley principal -- if you are going to fail, fail fast -- to the NBA, thus NBA 3.0.

These are not good reasons, but they explain the odd conduct on display.
 
Vivek loves to try associating himself with big names. He loves the attention.

That's why he has Roger Craig and Mully by his side.

And that's why so many times, we've heard this quote: "Like my good friend Steve Jobs always said, I like to surround myself with people that are smarter than me". Note the name dropping.

He love of attention. That's really why he jumped on the opportunity to be the majority owner of a team so he can be the face. I don't blame him for ambition as long as he sticks to the business side of things. He needs to know when to stop and let the people that knows better than him do their work.
 
Larry David said:
It's about suburbs in Roseville and Folsom, not Mumbai

It's about 2016-17 ticket prices. They just presume they will be good enough to make the playoffs in two years in the West (we'll see.) Their economic model, which doesn't include any revenue sharing when the new arena opens, is based upon massive ticket price hikes.

To ensure they meet their economic goals (protect Viveck's wallet), they aren't banking on just the additional sales following both a good team and the new arena buzz. They are concerned that casual fans, particularly casual fans that loved the Webber Divac glory days won't be super excited to watch a team that plays like Jeff Van Gundy's Rockets. The idea is that many casual fans have tuned out for years (some truth), and when they start watching or catch a game in person some will say, "This team is so boring. It's not like the old days." (really?) PDA has clearly been giving the marching orders that Viveck's financial models require the team to be BOTH very good and very entertaining in 1 and 3/4 seasons.

It's no accident that PDA keeps talking about the new arena. It's the goal and deadline to determine whether he's going to keep his job. How many times this summer did he say "We want to be a good team when the arena opens."

We are a small market team with a decent roster. PDA has been ordered not just to make the team a fringe contender, but to make them an entertaining fringe contender. I can't stand PDA, but to his credit he's been giving unreasonable goals by an owner that doesn't understand what he's asking for is close to impossible.
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I'm not so sure who he is after. Certainly he must know people in this area like a winning team. He spouts his own achievements so much he certainly knows being on top is important.

If anyone connected to him reads this note, I LIKE WINNING BEFORE STYLE !!!!!!!!!!
 
If the Kings keep Corbin it means they've essentially abandoned this season. If that's the case then I'll have trouble tuning in nightly.
 
Peter_Gibbons said:
Vivek loves to try associating himself with big names. He loves the attention.

That's why he has Roger Craig and Mully by his side.

And that's why so many times, we've heard this quote: "Like my good friend Steve Jobs always said, I like to surround myself with people that are smarter than me". Note the name dropping.

He love of attention. That's really why he jumped on the opportunity to be the majority owner of a team so he can be the face. I don't blame him for ambition as long as he sticks to the business side of things. He needs to know when to stop and let the people that knows better than him do their work.
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Roger Craig is a godfather to one of his kids. He is insecure. Why would a guy who is close to being a billionaire need to drop names?
 
It's funny how Pete said they are going after this style of play for the fans.

Look, fans want to see the team win. If you don't win, no one will watch. Plain and simple. It doesn't matter where you are. Why has the ratings for the lakers dipped? Because they are losing. They are still playing the same ol kobe ball but where did the fans go?

Honestly, its just another rich millionaire that THINKS he knows more than everyone else. Thinks he can out smart everyone and thinks his way is the best way.

How much faster do you think a big fella like Cousins will get worn out running up and down all night? God forbid, injuries from wear and tear alone will start piling on.
 
Chubbs said:
Honestly, I wasn't even worried about this season falling apart cause we still had the longterm potential with Malone/Boogie/Rudy/DC/Ben.

Now it's just, poof, gone. It's a nightmare that won't stop. How could they do this?
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****ing amazing how fast things went from the happiest we have been in years to a freakin bad dream. We are the joke of the NBA again. Our owner and front office is turning us into the punchline of every sports joke
 
Glenn said:
Roger Craig is a godfather to one of his kids. He is insecure. Why would a guy who is close to being a billionaire need to drop names?
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He held on to Roger Craig so tight like he was the last slice of cake on earth. And that was before he became an owner of a major sports team so Craig meant so much more to him then.

Vivek lives to be admired. Like one of those "god king" figures that wants their subjects to worship him. He wants that kind of attention on him.

Vivek is thinking, if this style of play catches on and what I implement works out, oh my oh my. How many worshipers will I have?
 
With George Karl publicly stating that he would take the kings head coaching job if it were offered to him it will be a sign of a total disaster scenario for this franchise if he isn't hired. Barring some kind of miracle hire. It's George or bust for us right now. I know that if I had the opportunity to hire the equivalent of Karl in my field of expertise, and I didn't do it, I would surely be fired.
 
You know what it is clear now that Malone wanted to keep tyreke and was vetoed by the fools. Malone was all over tyreke the minute he was hired. Shouldn't PDA have known that the salary would go up and you can't afford to let tyreke leave and tyreke at 11mil doesn't hurt flexibility when DMC contract wouldn't kick in for 2 more seasons . We still could have traded for Gay cause Toronto wa trading him for anything. We could have had DMC, JT, Gay, Tyreke, and Ben that is a championship team in no time when you add a bench and the way Malone tought defense.
 
randymoss1881 said:
You know what it is clear now that Malone wanted to keep tyreke and was vetoed by the fools. Malone was all over tyreke the minute he was hired. Shouldn't PDA have known that the salary would go up and you can't afford to let tyreke leave and tyreke at 11mil doesn't hurt flexibility when DMC contract wouldn't kick in for 2 more seasons . We still could have traded for Gay cause Toronto wa trading him for anything. We could have had DMC, JT, Gay, Tyreke, and Ben that is a championship team in no time when you add a bench and the way Malone tought defense.
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In hindsight, all of these moves speak more towards sabotaging Malone's chances, don't they?

That lineup still had holes, but definitely would have been a tough team to play every night. In that lineup, you have 3 players who could drop 30 points on a given night, meaning there wouldn't be too much of a drop-off when Cousins fell.
 
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