Make Kobe Happy And Help Kings

[LA King Fan II]

I apologize if I don't know the financial particulars...

Artest, Salmons, Miller, for Odom-Walton (sign/trade) & #19.

Lakers get a Kobe sidekick. They get a passing center. They have to adopt a win now attitude, and since they have the best player in the league it would be possible.

Walton is a good young player who would be a fan favorite.
We'd still have a #10 & 19 pick. Odom is far better than any forward currently on board.

 

[Dime Dropper]

I don't think they'd do it. Trading their 2nd best player, a role player and a decent pick in a good draft for a potential headcase, roleplayer, and soft - albeit good in the right system - center. They need a defensive presence, not a softie.

 

[Smills91]

I wouldn't do it...I don't trade Artest to LA unless Bynum is in the return for the Kings.

 

[Packt]

I can see this happening if Stan Van Gundy is our coach. Not sure I'd do it though.

It would have to be separate transactions, since I don't think you can package Odom with a S&T of Luke. Luke for Salmons, and then Miller, Artest for Odom and either Bynum, Evans (+Farmar), Cook.

 

[dbl07]

Trade doesn't match up salary wise. With Kobe, Odem, and Walton (probably resigned at MLE at the least) you are taking in 25+ million in salary, half of the salary cap right there. Not a good trade at all.

 

[Vlade4GM]

There is no way the lakers do this.

 

[dbl07]

Disregard my post....Kobe isn't part of the deal. That trade doesn't make him happy still though

 

[Merdiesel]

I wouldn't do it...I don't trade Artest to LA unless Bynum is in the return for the Kings.

I agree.

I don't think they'd do it. Trading their 2nd best player, a role player and a decent pick in a good draft for a potential headcase, roleplayer, and soft - albeit good in the right system - center. They need a defensive presence, not a softie.

Saying Odom is their 2nd best player isn't saying much... Artest makes more of an impact on the court then Odom does IMO, and Miller setting up Kobe on a nightly basis would be would be great for their team. This trade might not make the Lakers a contender but it definitely makes them a better. Thats exactly why I wouldn't do this.

 

[rhythmless]

this is just swapping players in their prime for players in their prime. lakers DONT trade odom unless theyre getting back something better in return. artest is not better. lakers are going to trade their youth, for better players NOW.

doenst make sense, and kobe isnt happy. whos gonna play pf? ronny or brian cook? yeah, makes bryant so excited...

 

[Bricklayer]

The upside of this whole Kobe mess for the rest of the league, is that Kobe is more or less forcing Bynum out the door -- and I thiik the kid shuld respond by heading over to Kobe's house and giving the little **** a good beatdown.

But beatdown or not, that is what Kobe, lovely teammate that he is, is doing. Trade away our youth for guys ready to win now or I'm going to stamp my foot and throw a tantrum.

Accoringly, the ONLY two things in L.A. that I'm interested in, Bynum and the #19, may both be availble. If you're going to propse deals wiht them, In think that's where you start if you are us. I happen to really like Odom, years ago when it was rumored there was an Odom/Peja trade on the tabel I was all for it. But that's not where we are now. We need kids and picks and enders. And from the Lakers/Kobe's perspective, they preferably need to hang onto Odom while adding more veteran talent, not just swap Lamar out for a marginal updgrade.

 

[SkinnerBox]

Someone convice the the Lakers that Artest is Kobe's Pippen, and get Bynum.

 

[sidney]

I would think we'd be looking for something more like this:

Bynum (2m)
Kwame (9m expiring)
Vlad (6m)
#19 pick

for

Artest (8m)
Miller (10.5m)

I bet they use Bynum to try and get one of the other PF out there like Gasol or JO

 

[Capt. Factorial]

I would think we'd be looking for something more like this:

Bynum (2m)
Kwame (9m expiring)
Vlad (6m)
#19 pick

for

Artest (8m)
Miller (10.5m)

Vlad's contract is fairly ugly and goes to 2010 (Vlad has an option on '10 at 6.9M). My guess is that if we want Bynum and the #19, there's no way without eating Vlad's contract. I would be surprised if Miller/Kwame would be involved because that suddenly shifts the financial aspects of the trade out of the Lakers' favor (the Lakers already giving up the most coveted "talent" in Bynum). But can we afford to have Miller, Thomas, AND Radman signed to long-term, bad contracts?

 

[Entity]

Brick you are exactly right. Kobe got wind of the Kidd and Bynum deal that didn't go down because the Lakers were "unwilling" to get rid of Bynum. Kobe is 28 and he doesn't want to rebuild. This is almost the same deal Iverson went through a few years back. Its pretty inevitable now that all this has come about that Kobe will not be a Laker for life maybe not even past 08.

So yes if they want to keep Kobe happy the other side of the trade is going to want Bynum.

 

[Bricklayer]

Vlad's contract is fairly ugly and goes to 2010 (Vlad has an option on '10 at 6.9M). My guess is that if we want Bynum and the #19, there's no way without eating Vlad's contract. I would be surprised if Miller/Kwame would be involved because that suddenly shifts the financial aspects of the trade out of the Lakers' favor (the Lakers already giving up the most coveted "talent" in Bynum). But can we afford to have Miller, Thomas, AND Radman signed to long-term, bad contracts?

If Bynum is what people think he might be, yeah. Hamstring us for a bit -- althoguh I think Miller might just be moveable. But there would be greener fields in the future behind our picks, Kevin, Bynum etc. But Bynum has to pan out obviously.