Loren Woods

[CalBears1]

Remember how everyone was talking all great about Justin William's stats in the NBDL? Well I was just checking up on Loren Woods, and his stats are pretty similar to what Williams was doing.

25mpg
11.4ppg
10.1rpg
2.0apg
2.0bpg
1.12spg

I'm not saying that we should pick this guy back up by any means, but it was just interesting to me that his stats were very similar to those put up by Williams.

 

[gunks]

He had his chance with us...Dont think he'll be getting a second one like Justin did.

And from what I've heard about the two players I think their major difference is work ethic...Justin has lots, Loren...Not so much.

 

[Troy]

He had his chance with us...Dont think he'll be getting a second one like Justin did.

And from what I've heard about the two players I think their major difference is work ethic...Justin has lots, Loren...Not so much.

Exactly. Justin is a hungry young kid that is trying to make basketball his life. Loren is a guy that's been bouncing around for some time now. Like Mo, he doesn't have a good work ethic and that is why he hasn't stuck with a NBA team. He is cheap and tall so that helps, but he must really be lazy. He's like 7' 1" to 7' 2", you all know how much we need size. Justin is 6' 10" if not 6' 9" but is a great leaper and is playing his heart out to make and now stay on a team.

 

[Bricklayer]

Remember how everyone was talking all great about Justin William's stats in the NBDL? Well I was just checking up on Loren Woods, and his stats are pretty similar to what Williams was doing.

25mpg
11.4ppg
10.1rpg
2.0apg
2.0bpg
1.12spg

I'm not saying that we should pick this guy back up by any means, but it was just interesting to me that his stats were very similar to those put up by Williams.

Well a guy like Loren who has played in the NBA for 5 years should be able to put up those kinds of numbers in the NBDL. Surprised he would go that route actually, but guess he knows this may be his last best shot to get back into the league.

Does say something about how well those stats translate over into the NBA though. Difference being that Justin may have more upside, and he's going to leave whatever he has on the floor.

 

[SacTownKid]

If given minutes Loren can put up those kind of numbers in the NBA too. I was disappointed that he was released especially when he wasn't given any sort of opportunity. He is huge, very mobile for his size, and rebounds at blocks shots at a respectable rate at the NBA level. Back then I thought at least one of Williams, Amundson, or Woods would be retained but obviously that was not the case.

In 04-05 Loren averaged about 5 rebounds and 1 block a game in only 15 mpg. That's pretty dang impressive. So I guess you could say the numbers translate very well. The difference being Loren is getting the minutes to produce.

 

[Bricklayer]

Loren Woods can NOT put up those numbers in the NBA, or close. If he could there are 30 idiots in the various GM offices aroudn the league. He's a scrub. Very good at dominating fellow scrubs. Not so good at playing against actual NBA rotation players.

 

[SacTownKid]

Loren Woods can NOT put up those numbers in the NBA, or close. If he could there are 30 idiots in the various GM offices aroudn the league. He's a scrub. Very good at dominating fellow scrubs. Not so good at playing against actual NBA rotation players.

Like I said he put up 5 boards in 15 minutes a game and not all of them were starts. Logic would suggest he could put up 10 in 30 minutes in the NBA. There are other flaws that may keep him from being a rotation player in the NBA but I would put money on his rebounding and shotblocking skills any day of the week.

Loren isn't dominating the NBDL in anything other than rebounding and blocking shots. The two things he is good at.

 

[SacTownKid]

Another thing I should mention is that Loren does look completely different offensively. I have seen a few of his games and he is getting a chance to play with the ball a little bit, even using his ball handling skills to break players down off the dribble and finish at the basket. I don't think those numbers would translate, like most scorers numbers in the D-league won't translate but the rebounding and blocks I think there would be a good chance of translating.

 

[pdxKingsFan]

Like I said he put up 5 boards in 15 minutes a game and not all of them were starts. Logic would suggest he could put up 10 in 30 minutes in the NBA. There are other flaws that may keep him from being a rotation player in the NBA but I would put money on his rebounding and shotblocking skills any day of the week.

Loren isn't dominating the NBDL in anything other than rebounding and blocking shots. The two things he is good at.

But you can't just double the minutes and get double the stats. There's all kinds of variables that prevent that. Loren's been around long enough that if he could have been a consistent player he would have a regular job by now.

I am kind of shocked to see him in the NBDL, one would think he could make more money and secure a nice life for himself playing overseas.

 

[SacTownKid]

But you can't just double the minutes and get double the stats. There's all kinds of variables that prevent that. Loren's been around long enough that if he could have been a consistent player he would have a regular job by now.

I am kind of shocked to see him in the NBDL, one would think he could make more money and secure a nice life for himself playing overseas.

Well, tell Brick that, he's usually the "master of the per 48".

I do understand that but sometimes the most important variable is simply not getting the minutes. Having seen Loren play I think if he got a good 25-30 minutes a game he'd be close to 10 rebounds and 2 blocks a game. But as I stated Loren has a few flaws to his game and consistency is one of them, as well as motivation.

It depends on the situation as well and Loren has typically been in situations where they need more than rebounding and shot blocking from the PF/C position. That was one of the reasons I was disappointed we let him go, as well as Justin at the time, because that's all we basically need from the PF/C position at times. Times like, well....most of the time.

 

[pdxKingsFan]

Well, tell Brick that, he's usually the "master of the per 48".

Its not entirely useless and I think its a valuable tool when you are trying to compare similar players with a significant disparity in minutes. I don't like it when you're applying it to a rebound/block specialist since fouls and fatigue take a bigger toll on the defensive end.

 

[SacTownKid]

Its not entirely useless and I think its a valuable tool when you are trying to compare similar players with a significant disparity in minutes. I don't like it when you're applying it to a rebound/block specialist since fouls and fatigue take a bigger toll on the defensive end.

That's why I would've have liked to see both Justin Williams and Loren Woods on the team. That's 48 minutes of rebounding and shot blocking no matter what league you're in.

As for the foul trouble aspect. Jerry Reynolds made an interesting comment the other night when Justin Williams got into a little bit of foul trouble. He said he thinks caoches get too scared of guys fouling out when it rarely happens anyway, and even if it did at least guys like Williams would be earning their fouls.

At least we have Justin but it would be nice to see him get time to develop.

 

[Gary]

Loren Woods had his chance.. Williams has not. Williams put up better numbers in the DL, and worked his *** off in college to get where he is.

I would rather Williams be on the team than Woodsx100.

 

[SacTownKid]

Loren Woods had his chance.. Williams has not. Williams put up better numbers in the DL, and worked his *** off in college to get where he is.

I would rather Williams be on the team than Woodsx100.

Anyone who says otherwise would be crazy.

 

[Packt]

At 28, hitting 29 this year, if he hasn't made it in this league yet, he'll never make it. There are a lot of things you can still finally start to do at 28, but being a consistent player in the NBA isn't one of them.

 

[Troy]

At 28, hitting 29 this year, if he hasn't made it in this league yet, he'll never make it. There are a lot of things you can still finally start to do at 28, but being a consistent player in the NBA isn't one of them.

(In the Soup Nazi voice from Siefeld) "NEXT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"


It is very hard to break into the NBA. There are only 15 roster spots on 30 teams so 450 total NBA players. You can dress 12 for any given day, I think.
That's not a lot of players. Sure there aren't many 7 footers in the world who let alone are that tall, but can even walk 1/2 way decent or have any sort of basketball game etc. So sure Loren being 7' 1" and being around the league can always be used by a team, especially 1 like us who is so badly undersized, but the guy has zero work ethic. We cut the guy in camp. We then cut Taylor just recently and brought back Williams and now signed him because he was doing so good in the D league and got a good # of rebounds in very limited minutes with us.

With the limited #s of bigs who have skills has caused the NBA to play more small ball. This year a good # of good prospects are coming out so this could change a little, but right there is only a handful of good bigs out there (centers), much more PF that are converted centers. I personally like the change to more athletism and less physical size. I don't like big ogers. I much rather see a 6' 9" guy jump around then a 7'+ center just stand around and have the ball come to him.