[Game] Kings vs. Atlanta Hawks, 1/22/2024, 7:00p PST/10:00p EST
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Funny thing is: I distinctly remember Sabonis' first game - and it was the most active I've seen Harrison in Sacramento. He was the prime beneficiary of Sabonis' passing on backdoor cuts and the like. Harrison scored something like 25. Before Sabonis HB would make the right off-ball moves, be open, and be ignored almost always. They *should* work very well together.
Wow- this board is on full tilt. I am glad I stayed away during the losing streak, and will probably stay away a few more days. Just on this one page (page 11) of the game thread there is:
1) A suggestion that there is a serious issue with Fox's attitude
2) a suggestion that Fox never wanted to sign with Sacramento
3) a suggestion that Brown was directly calling out Barnes in a presser after Barnes had a monster night
As to #1, we have seen this from Fox before. He plays with so much energy and effort that he gets banged up. He has never used it as an excuse before and I doubt he will now. His coaching staff has never mentioned it in the past either. I doubt they would suddenly say that Fox is dealing with some nagging injuries if he doesn't want it known.
As to #2, what?!?!? Like actually what???? The guy has been the absolute face of this franchise and city for several years. By all accounts, including his own, he genuinely loves it here. Saying crap like this is what starts crazy rumors and makes it look like people have agendas. Post a link from a credible source or GTFO with this nonsense.
As to #3. What?!?!? Like actually what?!?!? Brown has very rarely called out anyone, and certainly not when they are going good. Listen to the clip; it is clearly a reference to the fact that Barnes doesn't bring the ball up and initiate his offense. But seriously, in what universe is Brown calling out a guy like Barnes, in a presser, after a win, when Barnes scored 32 points???
People need to breathe. We lost 4 in a row. The 76ers loss was bad. We should have won the Bucks and Suns games. No two ways about it. We were the better team overall on both nights. We frittered those away and came home and laid an egg on the first game after a long road trip. We are not the first or the last team to lay an egg on the first game home after a long road trip. If Dame misses the three (or Monk hits a free throw) and we make one more stop in Phoenix, no one is talking about how bad we are, even if we lost to Indy. You can't make broad sweeping conclusions based on a few small bounces or outcomes. What matters is if the team is still together- last night seemed like a pretty good indication that they are, and the team rallied to get a good victory even without Fox playing very well.
1) A suggestion that there is a serious issue with Fox's attitude
2) a suggestion that Fox never wanted to sign with Sacramento
3) a suggestion that Brown was directly calling out Barnes in a presser after Barnes had a monster night
As to #1, we have seen this from Fox before. He plays with so much energy and effort that he gets banged up. He has never used it as an excuse before and I doubt he will now. His coaching staff has never mentioned it in the past either. I doubt they would suddenly say that Fox is dealing with some nagging injuries if he doesn't want it known.
As to #2, what?!?!? Like actually what???? The guy has been the absolute face of this franchise and city for several years. By all accounts, including his own, he genuinely loves it here. Saying crap like this is what starts crazy rumors and makes it look like people have agendas. Post a link from a credible source or GTFO with this nonsense.
As to #3. What?!?!? Like actually what?!?!? Brown has very rarely called out anyone, and certainly not when they are going good. Listen to the clip; it is clearly a reference to the fact that Barnes doesn't bring the ball up and initiate his offense. But seriously, in what universe is Brown calling out a guy like Barnes, in a presser, after a win, when Barnes scored 32 points???
People need to breathe. We lost 4 in a row. The 76ers loss was bad. We should have won the Bucks and Suns games. No two ways about it. We were the better team overall on both nights. We frittered those away and came home and laid an egg on the first game after a long road trip. We are not the first or the last team to lay an egg on the first game home after a long road trip. If Dame misses the three (or Monk hits a free throw) and we make one more stop in Phoenix, no one is talking about how bad we are, even if we lost to Indy. You can't make broad sweeping conclusions based on a few small bounces or outcomes. What matters is if the team is still together- last night seemed like a pretty good indication that they are, and the team rallied to get a good victory even without Fox playing very well.
It’s clear as day what he meant. He doesn’t bring the ball up so he isn’t going to get a look early and then they want to get in their offense fast and who ever is open first is going to shoot it. He is the last link so the touches often don’t come. Having said that, they should have tried to involve him early especially when we were struggling. His ability to get to the line and make his free throw was a key component to our success last year. We’ve gone completely away from that
Um...no. If anything it proves exactly the opposite, because they are capable of doing this but don't. There's a difference between capabilities and being able to consistently produce. That's why the Warriors beat this team: players like Kevin and HB didn't show up when they were needed despite having the talent to play better. Mental aspect of the game can be just as important as talent.
To me this game buys some time to get this team right. They played good enough against a below .500 team without it's best player to get the win. They have to play much better on the upcoming road trip.
I liked the HB "outburst," but am inclined to believe it has more to do with the long rest than a reorientation in the offense. We'll see how he does on the road trip.
Fox is doing his best at giving minimal acceptable effort. He's passive, slow (how many times did he blow by anybody or lead a fast break?), disengaged, defensively lazy, and certainly not leading in the area of competitive spirit. Spiritually speaking, he's on the periphery of this team, taking on the persona of a detached observer rather than a centrally involved participant. I was hoping that the long rest would give him a new lease on life, but instead he's renewed his contract with a mopey cheerlessness that's been going on for over three weeks. Unless he snaps out of it, this road trip could get ugly.
I liked the HB "outburst," but am inclined to believe it has more to do with the long rest than a reorientation in the offense. We'll see how he does on the road trip.
Fox is doing his best at giving minimal acceptable effort. He's passive, slow (how many times did he blow by anybody or lead a fast break?), disengaged, defensively lazy, and certainly not leading in the area of competitive spirit. Spiritually speaking, he's on the periphery of this team, taking on the persona of a detached observer rather than a centrally involved participant. I was hoping that the long rest would give him a new lease on life, but instead he's renewed his contract with a mopey cheerlessness that's been going on for over three weeks. Unless he snaps out of it, this road trip could get ugly.
It's getting a little concerning, totally reminds me of his "sullen" era before the Domas trade and Brown hiring rejuvenated the team. I chalked that up to the Kangz malaise that went along with being stuck on a franchise guided by Vlade's two brain cells.... but now? What gives?!
Hopefully he address it soon, because it seems more mental than physical at this point when you factor in the recent "media boycott". The suspense is killing me!
We need engaged Fox back! Dude had us making Jordan comparisons a month ago. Now we're just bummed at his play and making wild speculations (this post included haha).
Hopefully he address it soon, because it seems more mental than physical at this point when you factor in the recent "media boycott". The suspense is killing me!
We need engaged Fox back! Dude had us making Jordan comparisons a month ago. Now we're just bummed at his play and making wild speculations (this post included haha).
I did say it was only a hypothetical idea. It appears there's a lot of room for improvement with the pieces we have now if some of these issues with ball distribution, aggressiveness, and focus are fixable. And we've been good enough to be a few last second baskets away from a top 4 seed with so many players underperforming through the first half of the season (relative to expectations and past performance) so it's not an outlandish claim...
Are these issues fixable though or will they persist for another 40 games if nothing changes? That's the million dollar question that I'm not even going to try to answer because I don't know. Huerter and Barnes bouncing back I can see happening since both have long track records but then we weren't good enough to get out of the first round last year with a much more highly ranked offense and the same pieces on defense so my gut tells me we're in the same boat this year. Which means we're just waiting for some team to come along who is willing to deal a player we want for pieces we're willing to trade. I'm hitting refresh on realgm every other day hoping such a deal has been made but it's quite possible no such deal exists.
Are these issues fixable though or will they persist for another 40 games if nothing changes? That's the million dollar question that I'm not even going to try to answer because I don't know. Huerter and Barnes bouncing back I can see happening since both have long track records but then we weren't good enough to get out of the first round last year with a much more highly ranked offense and the same pieces on defense so my gut tells me we're in the same boat this year. Which means we're just waiting for some team to come along who is willing to deal a player we want for pieces we're willing to trade. I'm hitting refresh on realgm every other day hoping such a deal has been made but it's quite possible no such deal exists.
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