[Game] Kings v. Celtics in Mexico City 12/03/15 7pm PT/ 10pm ET

Curry is a better defender then I expected. Maybe not a positive at that end, but in a normal rotation where he'd spend the majority of time on a backup pgs I don't think he hurts you.
 
I'm wondering if Karl's current stated approach of "delegating" much of the coaching duties to his assistants, just isn't working for the players? His assistants don't strike me as strong convincing types, for NBA players

Yeah I was wondering that too. In general he just seems so detached from what's going on on the court. Does anyone think Boston has enough talent to blow us off the court? It's not about talent at this point, it's 100% about heart and effort. The zone defense we're playing this game is atrocious -- nobody knows who to guard so we're not guarding anybody and the same goes for controlling the boards. A coach who wants to win would call a time out and either straighten out the zone plan or switch to man-to-man. Just do something. Don't sit and watch us get our butts kicked. Even if George Karl is saying all the right things behind the scenes, the players are not responding to it. That's painfully obvious just watching the games. We don't look like a team that enjoys playing together. What other explanation is there?
 
Yeah I was wondering that too. In general he just seems so detached from what's going on on the court. Does anyone think Boston has enough talent to blow us off the court? It's not about talent at this point, it's 100% about heart and effort. The zone defense we're playing this game is atrocious -- nobody knows who to guard so we're not guarding anybody and the same goes for controlling the boards. A coach who wants to win would call a time out and either straighten out the zone plan or switch to man-to-man. Just do something. Don't sit and watch us get our butts kicked. Even if George Karl is saying all the right things behind the scenes, the players are not responding to it. That's painfully obvious just watching the games. We don't look like a team that enjoys playing together. What other explanation is there?

Yeah,....a team that lacks urgency, generally needs an intense motivating coach, who always inspires a sense of urgency. I'm not seeing any of that really
 
I know Karl fiercely rejects the notion that he just does not have the energy to coach anymore but listening to his postgame with him breathing extremely hard, like out of breath, for a man just sitting there got my attention. Then on top of that he shows no energy on the sideline anymore either. A few more performances like this and I really think canning him is on the table, if boogie and rondo are on board eff whatever the media reaction will be and just let the man go.

They won't be.

People have to get over this. Rondo and Cousins appear to WANT Karl here. Hence, Karl is going nowhere this year. And if Karl DOES go somewhere this year, its likely a complete disaster as Vivek comes fly in from left field disregarding his players again. Without a very saavy replacement hire, it probably costs you Rondo, and with him its entirely possible, Cousins.

The tired old man is our guy. People have to get used to it.
 
Yeah,....a team that lacks urgency, generally needs an intense motivating coach, who always inspires a sense of urgency. I'm not seeing any of that really

Exactly. These guys know how to play, but they spend so much time sulking and frowning that they almost forget there's a basketball game going on. You know, the sport you love so much you've made it a career? I don't think the guys we have on the team this year came here just to collect a paycheck. Maybe one or two of them did, but the majority are here to win games. Losing isn't fun. Losing the way we did today is flat out miserable. If they had somebody on the sideline who fired them up before the game, laid into them when they needed it, called timeouts as soon as the other team even thought about going on a run, and just generally acted like winning basketball games is the only thing in their life that matters I think we would see a totally different team. Same players, completely different team. No the coach can't go out on the court and play the game for them, but they can damn sure act like they care how the game is played. Rondo and Cousins are literally begging to be held accountable at this point. Think about how absurd that situation is.
 
Exactly. These guys know how to play, but they spend so much time sulking and frowning that they almost forget there's a basketball game going on. You know, the sport you love so much you've made it a career? I don't think the guys we have on the team this year came here just to collect a paycheck. Maybe one or two of them did, but the majority are here to win games. Losing isn't fun. Losing the way we did today is flat out miserable. If they had somebody on the sideline who fired them up before the game, laid into them when they needed it, called timeouts as soon as the other team even thought about going on a run, and just generally acted like winning basketball games is the only thing in their life that matters I think we would see a totally different team. Same players, completely different team. No the coach can't go out on the court and play the game for them, but they can damn sure act like they care how the game is played. Rondo and Cousins are literally begging to be held accountable at this point. Think about how absurd that situation is.

Yup. A team of young men "rise above" with an inspirational leader. Something is missing here in this situation, no doubt.

The question at this point, is how long before "we go another direction"
 
The iceberg is already on the horizon. Full steam ahead ain't going to fix anything.

No iceberg except of our own making.

We made this bed when we entered the season with Karl as coach. He's here now, he knows how to coach, and he has the ear of the two main guys. So on we'll soldier. If he fails we can try to go a different way in the offseason.
 
No iceberg except of our own making.

We made this bed when we entered the season with Karl as coach. He's here now, he knows how to coach, and he has the ear of the two main guys. So on we'll soldier. If he fails we can try to go a different way in the offseason.


I can buy that. I can even be OK with that.......if we do some gd soldiering.... Not just Rondo, Not just Cuz, not just Casspi (who really is a soldier)
 
No iceberg except of our own making.

We made this bed when we entered the season with Karl as coach. He's here now, he knows how to coach, and he has the ear of the two main guys. So on we'll soldier. If he fails we can try to go a different way in the offseason.

Certainly we made this bed (depending of course on whether we should be extended to include front office personnel who are now working for other teams) but about Karl having the ear of our two main guys... I'll respectfully disagree on that one. From what I've read there's some kind of a dialog going on there but I'm not sure how two-sided it is.
 
They won't be.

People have to get over this. Rondo and Cousins appear to WANT Karl here. Hence, Karl is going nowhere this year. And if Karl DOES go somewhere this year, its likely a complete disaster as Vivek comes fly in from left field disregarding his players again. Without a very saavy replacement hire, it probably costs you Rondo, and with him its entirely possible, Cousins.

The tired old man is our guy. People have to get used to it.

I can and have gotten used to that. I cannot, however, get used to seeing our players act as though George Karl is the youngest guy on the court. Hell, I could have done better than a couple of them tonight...and I'm old and short with bad knees and no jump shot.
 
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