BeerNerd916
Bench
Honestly I'm just sick of hoping. sick. Vivek promised us to keep our team here, I would hope he would have the foresight to do more than that. I'm just...sick of waiting.
[Game] Kings @ Trailblazers - 11/11/16 - 7 PT, 10 ET
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KingMilz
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Don't forget about the refs as well we would be challenging GSW right now if we didn't fire Malone and the refs called every foul for us. Also the schedule makers are always against us to as is our own play by play guy all these factors it's not a surprise why we get cheated every time.
gil renard
Bench
Our roster got worse this year, I think that's safe to say now...trying to put duct tape and bailing wire on a 33 win team, smh. All of Vlade's draft picks are non-factors and look like long term projects at best. I don't see what the point is of hanging on to Cuz and Rudy. Please hire a competent GM and start a true rebuild.
Would you 2 please calm down? I know I can use the block function but it gets awkward to follow threads when every other post is missing.
This was a good game where we didn't get a win. Most of this season have been good games where we didn't get the win which is an improvement over years past.
You don't need to set fire to every thread.
This was a good game where we didn't get a win. Most of this season have been good games where we didn't get the win which is an improvement over years past.
You don't need to set fire to every thread.
BeerNerd916
Bench
Beautiful. Censorship
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You're throwing a temper tantrum. You probably ought to log off for the night.
Look. The team played hard on a back to back after a tough loss. The more troubling thing is the complete lack of talent on this team. I don't know how any person who has seen this team believes we are better talent wise than last year.
I know Joeger is a better fit than Karl, but this is the NBA ans you can't grit your way to victory evey night.
I know Joeger is a better fit than Karl, but this is the NBA ans you can't grit your way to victory evey night.
BeerNerd916
Bench
I think us longtime fans should be able to voice some serious displeasure. This whole kumbaya crap has gotten us exactly nowhere.
Twelve profanities in five posts is a bit beyond voicing serious displeasure. I understand that you're upset, though frankly last night's loss was far worse than tonight's. Be that as it may, seeing as you are so angry, it would be a good idea to just cool off for tonight.
KingsFanSince85
All-Star
The only things I can really fault the Kings for tonight was defensive consistency (sometimes they were really good, sometimes they were really bad) and the shot selection on the final play (which is on Rudy). Other than that, they played hard and competed the way you'd hope to see most every night.
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Fora Dragi
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Do you know what they call a good game where we almost get a win?....a loss. I'm not happy w almost wins. It's been a decade and a half and we r at almost win...We deserve better.Why do we keep trying the same thing every year when we get the same result and how can u be ok w it. Smh
Tetsujin
The Game Thread Dude
If you aren't winning, you're losing. Burn down the new arena, I say.
Chupacabra
Starter
We lost to a team that is arguably less talented than we are. I certainly dont think theyre more talented than we are. This was a tough loss in overtime on the road with the whistles against us (meyers leonard pushes with the off arm on the drive to the basket, misses, and gets bailed out by the whistle. The double tech on Cuz and Leonard that cost us a free throw. Rudy in shooting motion on a drive to the basket, gets fouled, no free throws.) We're certainly playing better than last year, we just arent beating the teams that we should.
Tetsujin
The Game Thread Dude
But they've been together longer, have had all of their system in place for years, and weren't coming off a back-to-back.
Winning the second night of a back-to-back is never easy no matter the opponent. Especially in overtime.
Bricklayer
Don't Make Me Use The Bat
KingsFanGER
Starter
You underestimate the Blazers talent and don't take their overall roster composition into Account. With a healthy Aminu this game wouldn't be close.
Bricklayer
Don't Make Me Use The Bat
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KingMilz
Guest
Good thing Lillard is actually capable of carrying a team than to more than 35 wins
Yes, because Aminu is that well-known uncontainable x-factor.
Good thing Lillard is actually capable of carrying a team than to more than 35 wins
On erratic 3 point chucking, no less!
Gliesian
Bench
According to me, we are 6-5, which is great before the KANGZ tax. I'm glad the players get a break because when we play a bunch of games right after a heartbreaking loss, we play very poorly. They must find a way to keep their moral high. That is the most important thing for our team during the early season.
After this year I never want to hear the word "adversity" again!
After this year I never want to hear the word "adversity" again!
Bricklayer
Don't Make Me Use The Bat
Good thing Lillard is actually capable of carrying a team than to more than 35 wins
Lillard is cute and probably capable of being the #2 on a title team. Indeed from the distances he chucks, he would hardly be in the way of any other star and could hang out 30 feet from the hoop and work with virtually anyone. But aside from that, Portland just got their star + #2 + roleplayers thing together a year before we did. Its a standard workable formula if you don't fight it.
kingsboi
Hall of Famer
We are all sick of waiting. The patience is very minimal for the majority of the fan base, rightfully so, the front office is incapable of building around their cornerstone and in the process waste valuable prime years of that cornerstone by continuing to spin in this vicious cycle of no man's land. We are at a point where Vlade really needs to decide what he wants to do with his cornerstone moving forward.
Bricklayer
Don't Make Me Use The Bat
He has decided. The problem is you guys rejecting it because its not what you hoped or wanted to do. But the decision is plain as day.
We're giving it a go this year. Got a new coach who likes his scrappers. Loaded up on vet scrappers. So here we go, and hopefully said scrappy team and coach win enough with Cuz at their heart that he agrees to stay/extend. there's no wobble in that strategy. Its right there clear as the nose on our faces.
Then, Side B of the strategy is he has been acquiring, mostly middling, young assets. He has also timed a lot of our contracts to end next season. So, if the scrappy team does not win enough to convince Cuz to sign, then rather than risk it he will trade him, take the current young assets and the young assets coming back in a trade, let the vets walk, and start over with a sincerely terrible group of kiddie kids.
So there's Vlade's plan. And frankly the fanbase hasn't been remotely fair to it because it wasn't their dream plan. So they wrote it off before the season even started and have been wallowing about in misery all early season with nothing more than a predictably slow start to go on.
KingsFanGER
Starter
Yes, because Aminu is that well-known uncontainable x-factor.
Versus the Kings? Unfortunately he is....
A skilled, athletic stretch 4 enabling the Blazers to Start small versus us and to take advantage of KK resulting in a faster pace and even more 3's. Basically forcing us to play exactly how the Blazers want to play.
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Fora Dragi
Guest
You have got to be kidding... The 1980s called and want you to come back home. Lillard fits this version of the NBA perfectly. I suppose Curry is just a chucker too. And I'm sorry Portland is way more than 1 year ahead of us. They actually have players willing to play team ball. We have two ISO stagnant ball hogs and no defense. Our isn't a time problem it's a talent/fit problem.
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Fora Dragi
Guest
Sure they may have worked 30 years ago, but that doesn't work in this NBA. As evidenced by the last ten years. The kings still lack shooting and still refuse to guard the 3pt line. Sorry but if those 2 things don't happen we will not win. And he better trade cuz before the deadline because he won't get much after that.
Bricklayer
Don't Make Me Use The Bat
I sometimes struggle to tell who really just doesn't know stuff and is talking out of their butt, and the people who know stuff and basically just lie in order to try to win a point.
Let me introduce you to a little team called the Portland Trailblazers. Tale of woe team really. For their entire existence a franchise that just can't have nice stuff. Everytime they try, thing inevitably fall apart in their faces. Walton's feet. Bowie over Hakeem and Jordan. Then his feet too. Oden's knee. The Jailblazers, the disintegration of their last serious team.
Now here are some other things you should know about the Trailblazers if you're going to insist and jumping into a debate about them:
1) they suck at defense.
Really not their thing at all. They allow team to score 111.7pts/game on them. That's 28th in the league. Last year under Karl we only allowed teams to score 109.1. Blazers are also 26th in the league in DRTG. Its not just pace. Their margin is barely better than ours.
2) They're no better passing the ball than we are:
Just one of those things -- they aren't. no more assists, more turnovers. Very similar Ast/TO ratio.
3) Their stars really aren't any sexier than ours. Their #1 is playing well over his historic head. but then again, so is our #2. Both guys will presumably find their level as the season goes on, and it should remain pretty balanced.
DmLillard 30.6pts (.650TS%) 4.7reb 4.5ast 121ORTG 114DRTG 26.9PER
DCousins 26.6pts (.582TS%) 8.6reb 2.9ast 114ORTG 106DRTG 27.6PER
Rudy Gay 22.3pts (.588TS%) 6.5reb 2.5ast 114ORTG 107DRTG 23.1PER
McCollum 22.2pts (.592TS%) 4.4reb 3.0ast 111ORTG 110DRTG 20.9PER
Their team isn't anymore balanced. We go:
Cuz 26.6
Rudy 22.3
Collison 11.7
Afflalo 9.8
8 others between 7.4 and 3.2
they go:
Lillard 30.6
McCollum 22.2
Harkless 11.2
Crabbe 9.6
Plumlee 9.0
6 others between 6.4 and 3.3
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Bricklayer
Don't Make Me Use The Bat
You just called Aminu "skilled".
The guy with the 8PER shooting .377.
Please stop.
Bricklayer
Don't Make Me Use The Bat
1) You do realize that Dave Joerger and the Grizz under he and Hollins were a perennial power in the West during the last 10 years, right? Reached the WCS? Popped the Warriors in the nose a couple of seasons ago? Not a great idea as it turns out, but not something you are capable of unless you are pretty darn good.
Just checking here at how selective that ole memory is.
2) And BTW, there seems to be a cottage industry of falsely accusing this team of sucking at guarding the 3. We're more than 1/8th of the way into the season now, and our 3pt defense is entirely league average.
Opp3pt%: .343 (NBARank #14)
Opp3ptFGA: 26.3 (NBARank #16
Our 3pt defense is entirely unexceptionable. Neither a reason why we win or lose compared to the rest of the league.
3) our own shooting deficiencies are so stipulated. Then again, we shoot them (7.3-22.0 .331%) better than do the Toronto Raptors (6.4-22.2 .290%), and they seem to be just fine.
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KingsFanGER
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Why should I stop? Aminu is a 6'9 combo forward, a solid rebounder, a solid defender, can shoot 3's and can put the ball on the floor.
In your world he seems to be a scrub.
I would guess every Fan, who watched more than two Blazers games over the last season would disagree, but I know that won't matter with you.
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