Well, congrats for having no semblance of money management
Kings trading Evans for Vasquez/Lopez
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Well, congrats for having no semblance of money management
Double-K
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Bricklayer
Don't Make Me Use The Bat
So...New Orleans comes out of this draft/FA period nabbing Jrue Holiday and Tyreke Evans as their guards.
We come out of the same draft/FA period with Ben McLemore and Grevis Vasquez as ours.
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I hope somebody brought something stronger than Vaseline, because I'm feeling chafed.
We come out of the same draft/FA period with Ben McLemore and Grevis Vasquez as ours.
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I hope somebody brought something stronger than Vaseline, because I'm feeling chafed.
They have 3 guys that have all star potential and are locked in for the next 3-4 years.
We have 5 with one guy that maybe has that kind of potential and he hasn't played a single game. And all but one are on rookie contracts that will be increasing in the next couple years. That 16 can easily become 25 with a fraction of the talent.
Glenn
Hall of Famer
That's misrepresenting me. I don't get much out of a list of advanced metrics unless there is a verbal comment on the player. Some people use metrics as if it says everything. That's my objection. I have the capacity to learn but the figures have to have a context.
BTW, you seem to always find a way to put down who you are responding to. That weakens your position as any one who has to get personal may very well have a weak argument.
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We'll see. Converting Cousins to PF sooner than later might be best for us. He's got the offensive game for it and his defensive liabilities will always haunt us. Finding a PF who plays defense is hard enough, much less one who can be a legit anchor. Not that I'm sold on Lopez being a legit anchor, but he's certainly a huge improvement over anything we've had in a long, long time
Dime Dropper
All-Star
Just go get my opinion down on paper:
F**k this.
My opinion is that it's an idiotic start by the FO to give up on Tyreke. No amount of "but they saved the team" or "waaah stop over-reacting" will change my opinion.
Vasquez is a good player and Lopez could be decent off the bench, but you don't give up on Tyreke's potential for that. I really hope I'm wrong and this turns out for the best but there's a good chance Tyreke is going to make the FO look like idiots. I almost hope he does.
F**k this.
My opinion is that it's an idiotic start by the FO to give up on Tyreke. No amount of "but they saved the team" or "waaah stop over-reacting" will change my opinion.
Vasquez is a good player and Lopez could be decent off the bench, but you don't give up on Tyreke's potential for that. I really hope I'm wrong and this turns out for the best but there's a good chance Tyreke is going to make the FO look like idiots. I almost hope he does.
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Double-K
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We had every right to retain Evans. We helped the chafing by not matching.
ParniValjak
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Depressing isn't it?!
Bricklayer
Don't Make Me Use The Bat
If you trade Vasquez at the deadline its an even bigger fail. You are spiraling down a flexible pieces wormhole then.
He's got to be the guy. The conventional if slow footed PG. McLemore has to work out as the conventional catch and shoot 2. If you are trading Vasquez in 6 months it means he has failed, and you have failed.
William Blake
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The thing that angers me the most about this deal is that the fo went for mediocrity. The Evans-McLemore combo in the backcourt had the potential to be dominant on both ends of the floor, on the other hand Vasquez-McLemore is a question mark defensively and relies heavily on McLemore blowing up in order to be something to write home about on offense.
We had a team that with a few adjustments could have been special and the FO didn't give it a shot and turned it into a team that needs a major strike to win more than 35 games.
We had a team that with a few adjustments could have been special and the FO didn't give it a shot and turned it into a team that needs a major strike to win more than 35 games.
Glenn
Hall of Famer
KY is the lubricant of choice. It also helps to do muscle exercises.
KingsFanGER
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But is Cousins quick enough to guard the majority of PF's? I dont know.
Bricklayer
Don't Make Me Use The Bat
Oh make no doubt about it, this is a self job. We dropped the soap, we bent over after it. Nobody else to blame for this.
How's this for what you resort to as a silver lining: New Orleans has now accumulated so much talent at its guard spots that none of the guys will probably score 20 a night. Collectively they'll drop 50 on you, but at least we are less likely to risk Tyreke blowing up in his first season away from us. There? Doesn't that feel better?
Glenn
Hall of Famer
Haha Glenn he called you out!
I don't understand what makes you so happy. Do you like it when someone puts me down? Is that really it?
At one point two days ago we had met with Igoudala and made him a $52M offer and had then subsequently met with Tyreke and he came away happy and excited about his future with the team and his brothers were on Twitter saying he's going to retire as a Sacramento King. What the hell happened?
Glenn
Hall of Famer
I hope the next person we approach comes out grumpy as hell. Players being happy makes this all sound like our FO are a bunch of very good con artists.
Double-K
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It's just funny that he flat out said it with no regard. Like he knows you. Like he's your long-lost brother or something... Haha
Bricklayer
Don't Make Me Use The Bat
Well, I did preemptively rush this out on draft night when the first wheels of this began moving:
Glenn
Hall of Famer
He says a lot of things with no regard. I think that's rude but each to his own. It's why I seldom read his notes carefully.
ParniValjak
All-Star
Well, I did preemptively rush this out on draft night when the first wheels of this began moving:
That might become more useful than your George Maloof photos
Dime Dropper
All-Star
I think it's amusing that we now get to listen to the_jamal over-rate the incoming Kings players. I've never heard a poster instantly gush over players just because they're coming here. Happens literally every single time - they're all stars. From Chuck Hayes to Thomas Robinson!
Bricklayer
Don't Make Me Use The Bat
Just wait until we make the logical followup move and trade Cousins for Larry Sanders and Ersan Ilyasova.
Glenn
Hall of Famer
The point is to take a position that is aggravating. The subject matter is just the vehicle.
Double-K
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Haha don't get me wrong... I'm on your side. I'm like a guy laughing at his friend's misfortune sarcastically.
It was rude that he called you out! More rude that he has no base because you do listen... don't you?
Double-K
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After Evans departure, that wouldn't sound too far fetch to me.
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