SLAB
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My dude has a team every single person on this board was crapping all over at 9-3 right now. Last season was rough but idk if Luka is the guy to make that argument. More like -> see (as much as I adore him) Sac Boogie.
[Game] Kings @ Spurs, 11/17/2023 4:30pm Pacific 7:30pm Eastern (ESPN)
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My dude has a team every single person on this board was crapping all over at 9-3 right now. Last season was rough but idk if Luka is the guy to make that argument. More like -> see (as much as I adore him) Sac Boogie.
reptilexcq2
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In-season Tournament quarterfinal and semifinal are count as regular season games. I wonder if team want to go deeper into it playing 2 games against tougher teams that count as your regular season games than losing and not qualified and getting a couple games against weak teams for your regular season games lol. But I guess it's worth it since they get prizes.
NewArena
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This. The fact that we're only 11 games in with these new players added, and Fox has only played in 6 of them... i'm not sure what anyone would be worried about, especially with us still winning games in spite of adjustments that are being made.
NewArena
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This is freaking BEAUTIFUL
Caccia
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No, the bench came in, first with Monk and Vezenkov, and turned things around right away. Monk was +26 just in the first half. It helped that Fox hit two three-pointers in the last 41 seconds of the half to tie the game at 62.
This board has been collectively bad at assessing our opponents lol.
At the trade deadline, I remember when people thought that the Lakers would not get that much better from their 25-30 record despite adding Rui, D-Lo, Beasley, and Vanderbilt. After the D-Lo trade, they finished their season 18-9 and made it to the WCF...
People said the same thing about the Suns and did not take them seriously despite adding Kevin Durant to the team. KEVIN DURANT.
Others were adamant that Kyrie Irving would not move the needle for the Mavs and would not fit well next to Luka. The Mavs didn't have the instant success the Lakers had, but a season later, they're at 9-3 and look pretty good.
I don't think you can scoff off any team this year, not even the Clippers who will likely end up a play-in team, at worst.
Caccia
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Good grief, there were nine passes on that one possession before anyone took a shot.
QWERTYLICIOUS
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A KINGS win means just ONE thing, Kings Fam Bam...
#BeamTheMuthaEffingLight
JUST.
MUTHA.
EFFING.
BEAM.
THAT.
ISH.
PS: You may or may NOT hear from me before/after the next few games, as I am flying up to Canada on Sunday for a week (until next Saturday). Family trip with cousins/nieces/nephews - Heading up to Banff. I am planning on taking my laptop up there with me, so I SHOULD be able to get on at some point before each game, and again after each game, but won't make any guarantees.
So, if I miss my traditional pregame and/or postgame posts, please forgive me
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#BeamTheMuthaEffingLight
JUST.
MUTHA.
EFFING.
BEAM.
THAT.
ISH.
PS: You may or may NOT hear from me before/after the next few games, as I am flying up to Canada on Sunday for a week (until next Saturday). Family trip with cousins/nieces/nephews - Heading up to Banff. I am planning on taking my laptop up there with me, so I SHOULD be able to get on at some point before each game, and again after each game, but won't make any guarantees.
So, if I miss my traditional pregame and/or postgame posts, please forgive me
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QWERTYLICIOUS
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Duarte
MizzouKing
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This is the whole reason so many of our guys lost their shooting touch as the season was starting. Sure, they had been working out all summer, but it’s hard to push yourself to the level of conditioning needed to be an NBA-level defensive team. There was still conditioning to be had, and — to their credit — the coaching staff did not ease up so that they could regain their offensive form…they kept the bar high and those who wanted to play just had to catch up.
LoungeLizard
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This is BS. The majority of the board did not hold those opinions, especially about the Lakers. Most of the board was pissed that Ainge bailed the Lakers out with that deal because the Lakers were stuck with Westbrook and it was obvious they’d be much better without him, not to mention the added pieces. As far as the Mavs go, they were pretty bad with Kyrie to end the year, dropped out of the playoffs. You could argue they tanked and that’s probably true, but take a look at their opponents on this 9-3 start before you declare them world beaters. Playoff team? Sure, But I need to see some more quality wins before I drop a contender label on them.
Yeah, that's definitely a bit of revisionist history. The overwhelming opinion was that the Lakers made out like bandits. And that we wished the Kings nabbed Vanderbilt instead.
And the Suns were seen as a potential championship team IF they could gel quickly and stay healthy.
The Mavs were the only team where I'd agree that no one saw them as world beaters with Irving. Mostly because (a) something was clearly off with Luka last season and (b) the early returns just showed a "your turn, my turn" offense that wasn't an improvement while making them even worse defensively.
Doncic came back for this season focused and in shape and they have retooled their offensive sets. So far they look good, but yeah, they have had a pretty soft schedule to date.
Tetsujin
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I think the main semantics issue in regards to the Lakers is that they got better but I’m not sure they ever wound up getting better enough to ever really be a truly scary team/ they might have had some post-Russ elation boosting their play.
The Mavs defense has looked really meh to start the season and they have literally only faced two star level guards this season (three if you can count Harden as a star at this point) and one of those was Lamelo, who is on a bad team.
Kyrie’s also been injured for a lot of this stretch, which has sort of alleviated a lot of the dueling hero ball issues that they had last season/taken one of their worst defenders off the floor.
Offensively they’ve looked about the same as last season but their offense was not their issue last season either. Needless to say I’m looking forward to seeing the game on Sunday (Fox also always seems to get up for games against Luka too)
Vinny Basketballerino
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Vinny B's In-Depth (in Sauce) Analysis of The League:
Kings good league bad.
I will be vindicated when we dance in the streets of Belgrade and Sacramento!
Kings good league bad.
I will be vindicated when we dance in the streets of Belgrade and Sacramento!
The whole point with the Lakers is that they are entirely dependent on Lebron and AD staying healthy in the playoffs. That didn't change with the trades they made last year. And that post trade deadline tear was largely boosted by insane levels of referee tomfoolery to the point where Lakers fans somehow convinced themselves that Austin Reaves is a superstar.
With Phoenix they didn't just ADD Kevin Durant to a team that had recently been to the Finals, they also SUBTRACTED Mikal Bridges and Cam Thomas, their best defender and two best shooters. Even on paper this didn't objectively make them better. And now they've ditched Ayton as well making them an entirely perimeter oriented team. Of course they will have games where Booker and KD go supernova and they look elite but can they do that every game? Their balance is wrecked, they no longer have depth or youth in their favor. It's just not a recipe for sustained success.
Dallas wasn't any better after adding Kyrie last season but they've completely rebuilt the roster around them in the off season. Also Luka is a superstar and is just entering his prime. He's going to carry them to that playoffs every season regardless of who else is on the team like Lebron did with Cleveland
But ultimately the collective scoffing at the rest of our division is more about their long-term prospects than how good any of them will be this season. I'm sure at least one of these teams will get it together enough to challenge for the division lead and all of them are still dangerous in a playoff series. But none of them have stellar 5-10 year outlooks and our window of opportunity to win a championship has barely even started to open.
kingsboi
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unless you're Jokic or Crvena Zvezda I don't know that Belgrade will accept anything less
Not weighing in much but great to be finally watching some Kings games while in America with NBA league pass.
Fox and the confidence he exhibits is amazing. Monk, what to say, his personality and ability to take over and facilitate is the best in the league. 6th man award due I recon.
A little curious what’s in store for Davion.
Fox and the confidence he exhibits is amazing. Monk, what to say, his personality and ability to take over and facilitate is the best in the league. 6th man award due I recon.
A little curious what’s in store for Davion.
I do not see the Kings much now that they are playing so well.
SA had a great shooting game at home. They have the Alien, but the Kings stepped up and soundly beat them.
I am very impressed with Sabonis and Fox. They show great mental toughness and leadership.
The Kings have a strong bench. Monk has always been a favorite player to watch since his days at UK. Lots of guys are stepping up.
McGee is a step forward for a big guy coming off the bench.
The Kings have improved their defense. Not where we want it, but Brown has corrected a lot of problems.
The pace is fast and the Kings are an awesome offensive team even when some guys are not hitting their shots.
Fox seems to getting much more reasonable officiating and spends a lot of time at the line.
Good passing team. Good fast break team. Shooting team. Rebounding could be better. Defensive continues to improve.
The future is bright.
SA had a great shooting game at home. They have the Alien, but the Kings stepped up and soundly beat them.
I am very impressed with Sabonis and Fox. They show great mental toughness and leadership.
The Kings have a strong bench. Monk has always been a favorite player to watch since his days at UK. Lots of guys are stepping up.
McGee is a step forward for a big guy coming off the bench.
The Kings have improved their defense. Not where we want it, but Brown has corrected a lot of problems.
The pace is fast and the Kings are an awesome offensive team even when some guys are not hitting their shots.
Fox seems to getting much more reasonable officiating and spends a lot of time at the line.
Good passing team. Good fast break team. Shooting team. Rebounding could be better. Defensive continues to improve.
The future is bright.
Caccia
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Two straight DNPCDs. Must be discouraging, but I imagine we will see a resurgence.
reptilexcq2
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Everybody on this team seem to pick up their defense intensity this year except Barnes.
Fox is more determine fighting over the screen instead of doing only when he wish like last year
Huerter seems to be more focus on his defense as well
Keegan has turn into a lock on defensive player this year
...and other guys like Duarte, Ellis and Vezenkov (at least they play with intensity).
But the one player that have not change or seem to be able to change in intensity is Barnes. He doesn't do the extra to help this team...hustling, diving, fighting through screen and sometimes he even lose assignment in either backdoor or just simple screen. He doesn't put up resistant when guys dove at him or back down one-on-one. He would just back away...pretty soft and it has always been like that with Barnes' defense and i hated it. And I never seen Mike Brown call him out or talk to him on the sideline? Like why does he get a free pass while others like Mitchell and Keegan constantly getting lectured? As I said last summer, the Kings would be so much more potent if they can replace Barnes who only checked a few boxes. I just read an article that Zack Lavine wanted to be here...maybe he ain't a bad replacement. Barnes + Mitchell for Lavine....let's GO!!!!
ockingsfan
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Yep, it could go one of two ways. Either coach Brown pulled Davion to allow him to work on his offense and prove he should get minutes or Davion is out of the rotation until the Kings can find a suitable trade for him.
I'm hoping Davion finds his offense and gets back on the court for the Kings.
reptilexcq2
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I don't think it's about Davion not finding his offense. He ain't bad shooting the ball...but it's about the same old other things he didn't do or improve. He doesn't make the team better in other areas. He only checks a few boxes such as one-on-one defense but lately even his defense (which everyone knows is his specialty) didn't go well. He gets called for foul a lot by guys attacking him (officials seem to have something against him). His impact on defense is minimal this year (who would have thunk?). That Klay winner over him is a dagger of the season....shows Davion can be beaten despite playing great D due to his height. Plus, the fact that him playing at PG and not doing much as far as pick n roll is also a negative. If you compare him and Malik Monk in pick r roll and how dangerous Malik Monk is, you see the difference and Mitchell IS A PG!! I think he's not the type of fearless player like Malik that attack and not afraid to absorb contact. But that's what the Kings need. You can't be doing pick n roll and see a path to the basket and hesitate and not doing anything right after....that's been the theme with Mitchell throughout the years. He has not improve his game...other players like Keegan work on and improve his game during the summer like making a focus of attacking the basket or midrange shot and improving his individual defense.
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Telemachus
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Mitchell's problem was that he wasn't pushing the pace. The whole game was slowing down with him on the floor. Ellis has consistently pushed the ball while he was in the game.
Sac.Kings
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Some guys know how to run an offense and others don’t and it has nothing to do with experience. He has played here long enough to show some level of growth, but it’s largely been the same throughout.
I don’t think Davion is going to be here for much longer. On this team, he is too situational to be the backup PG and we lose much more than we gain with him running the backup PG spot. Whatever points he may save on defense, our offense struggles much more so. He isn’t a bad player and he’s a workhorse, but it seems like he worked on the wrong things. He may just need a fresh start with a new scene/location. Hopefully, Barnes is packaged along with him, but that’s for a different thread!
sono
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https://www.nba.com/watch/video/dea...f-gametime-nov-17?plsrc=nba&collection=nba-tv
Yep, Barnes becoming the odd man out. Not sure about Zack, he's bad at defense, 1-way player isn't he?
LaVine is talented but he has never proven himself to be a team first winning player. Not sure about the fit with Fox. Price would be high, something like Huerter, Mitchell and 2 firsts. Maybe Malik.
All said, it's still worth some thought. Lavine would be a major talent upgrade at starting SG. Malik is going to get starting $$ next year, is it in our plans to move him to starting lineup? In some ways it makes sense to trade Malik/Huerter for a top SG since we look deep there with Colby/Ellis more than capable 9/10th guys.
All said, it's still worth some thought. Lavine would be a major talent upgrade at starting SG. Malik is going to get starting $$ next year, is it in our plans to move him to starting lineup? In some ways it makes sense to trade Malik/Huerter for a top SG since we look deep there with Colby/Ellis more than capable 9/10th guys.
I just don't see the need. Huerter has fantastic chemistry with Sabonis on the court running that two man dribble hand-off action and Monk has fantastic chemistry with Fox on the court getting out and running and feeding each other for poster dunks. It seems to me like we're already set at the SG position with those two guys being perfect compliments to our two All-Stars. Finding someone who can rebound the ball at a decent clip when Sabonis is out of the game is a bigger priority to me and those sorts of players will be a lot cheaper to acquire and keep than LaVine.
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