[Game] Kings @ Rockets, 11/6/2023 5pm Pacific 8pm Eastern
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SacTownKid
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It might be worth a shot. The downside is his history isn't that and he's in a contract year so if he does break out, you're kind of just betting against yourself. The first playoff run is the only real proof of a Fox/Monk 1/2 punch and Monk was every bit the erratic boom or bust player he is. His efficiency is up and down ending up at around a Jordan Poole/JR Smith level historically.
sactowndog
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no we overpaid Domas before he proved he could shoot.
if you really want to look at a move that we should have made with Barnes I would say the decision not to trade Barnes to Boston at the 2021 trade deadline for Bostons first and Aaron Nesmith.
we would have gotten Franz Wagner instead of Davion Mitchell and Sengun with Boston’s first pick
SacTownKid
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Monte did kind of go whale hunting though. Beal and OG were the apparent targets. Who knows what the FA money was about but probably somehow involved in making space for Beal.
sactowndog
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perhaps but regardless this team is 2-4
Rob-The-Great
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You can’t go big whale hunting if you never shoot the harpoon! More like whale watching in Monterey Bay
sactowndog
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plus Monk’s strengths are with the ball in his hand running the pick and roll. He has many similar strengths as Haliburton who also needed the ball in his hands to excel.
Rob-The-Great
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Wait till monk figures out he’s not starting so we can keep his value down to resign him. How will that sit? Monk has progressed to starter level talent. Either here or somewhere else. Huerter is Not better than him. I know we want a spark off the bench but I wouldn’t mind a spart starter as well. Think about this, fox is the ultimate closer, imagine having the ultimate opener?
Rob-The-Great
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No sir. Fox and Monk together at same time last year was magic. I know you remember those lobs to each other. It was magic. Monk can cut unlike Hali
SacTownKid
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Haha. True that. Although Beal had final say, he chose the Suns. Is what it is. The Raps wanted Keegan and a boatload I think. Yeah, that probably doesn't make sense given OG's contract let alone anyway IMO. I still think the one to watch is LaVine. The Kings are unfortunately going to have to look at some type of gettable player on a horrible contract. Is what it is as well. Outside of that, yeah, cementing Domas/Fox early was what it was also and honestly probably not totally necessary but Domas wasn't going anywhere so what's that difference. This was likely the only summer Monte had money to play with and he went for some cap at least. It just didn't materialize. Trey depending on role might overpaid but not an albatross. Barnes is on a fair deal. If you look at the cap structure Monte created he's basically got a ton of options to make salaries work in a deal. I really don't think that was by accident. I mean it's actually bizzare. It almost goes up by 1 million at a time player to player then two bigger middle deals in Huerter and Barnes both at 15 and 18 or so They need to start playing better for sure though.
SacTownKid
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Maybe, but remember this is a guy that isn't too far removed from signing a prove it deal just to stay in the league. No question though, yeah, when you're calling card is depth get ahead of it before teams start poaching your guys. Petrie was pretty dang good at that back in the day. Hedo being the main one. If Davion and Monk start playing up to their abilities all it takes is one team to pry them.
PorchSurfin
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Davion can kick rocks.
Atlanta
Tizzy Flip
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I’m gonna withhold judgment on individual play until December, but there are issues on offense when we don’t have either Fox or Monk in the lineup. We simply do not have the foot speed or athleticism without either of them on the floor to beat guys off the dribble, so we rely on 3s for our offense. Knowing that, Rockets went over most screens and contested our 3s. They were flying guys from everywhere to put a hand in our face. This is a big reason why our starters’ 3pt % these last few games is as bad as it is. Udoka pretty much dared us to drive to the hoop and played us straight up on D (Sabonis was never double teamed). Concerning signs but we should know teams are gonna copy Warriors defensive strategy
KingsFanSince85
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Then I guess you should have stated they were in your top 4 then. Unless they’re not 4 either….
Key point being made here is, they are in YOUR top 5. But I’d bet anything they aren’t in the majorities top 5. With the notable exception of those primarily appreciating her appearance.
@fansinceday1 is right. Kayte talks WAY too much. Both during broadcasts and in post game pressers where she typically rambles incessantly in a desperate attempt to appear knowledgeable before finally getting around to asking a freaking question.
Seriously, she almost never asks a straight up question. If you have listened to her for any length of time and can’t recognize or acknowledge that, you’re simply not being objective. She employs the same approach to her color commentary — which is more like color dissertation.
That all said, she is far from the worst I’ve heard and I too have NBA league pass. Outside of some newer media personalities recently added, I’ve seen and heard all of them at one time or another. There are some really, really bad ones. And Kayte isn’t that bad. But she’s not all that good either. Probably somewhere in the middle.
KingsFanSince85
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Eh, the Rockets have won ONE game beyond beating the KINGS twice at home. And that was Charlotte who is 2-4.
Perhaps it might be more prudent to wait and see what they look like after 15-20 games before declaring that Udoka has coached the hell out of them.
I still believe that’s a lottery team and not a tremendously good one at that.
But apparently the KINGS just might be too. They certainly look like it right now. But they also have Swipa returning soon so who knows.
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KingsFanSince85
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I think they already got it.
Kings better figure this out fast; Brown failed this game 2. Getting destroyed by a mediocre Rockets team does not bode well. What lousy effort, and forget the Trailblazeres if they play anything close to this 2nd Rockets game. I can see 1 loss to the Rockets, but not 2 losses - I expected alot better effort this 2nd game , and zeroes. Quite a few people are failing their jobs.
Dime Dropper
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I know we've been without Fox, but damn we have absolutely sucked the last 2 games. Unwatchable.
Really need to pick things up and fast.
Really need to pick things up and fast.
coolhandluke
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Apparently, it went to voicemail.
serbiangoat
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Miami has no one after Lowry who is terrible himself,.
ockingsfan
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Thank goodness that 1st round pick we owe Atlanta is Lottery protected this year and top 12 protected 2025, top 10 protected 2026.
PorchSurfin
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Oh geez is that true?
Tetsujin
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I mean, if they continue to insist on not using Jovic, we may as well ask for a swap.
GWD
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Coach-of-the-Year Brown certainly deserved the award last year for pushing the team's performance. This year seems to have started with a team tired of being pushed...almost defiant. Recall the game early this year when Brown said Keegan mouthed F-you after being threatened with being pulled from the game. Certainly an out-of-character response to what was going on his rookie year and approaching a lack of respect. It is not wise to "ride a horse hard and put him away wet" as the saying goes.
As a 30-year teacher, there is an observed reason students get a new teacher and a new start each year. A clean start allows for a remake and refresh. I'm putting this start on Brown. There is ample evidence in the last two games that the motivation is lacking in the players. Brown and his coaches need a mental reset for the team to break out of the current malaise. It starts with a reset of methodology at the top.
Last season I posted a similar concern about Brown's penchant for "punishment" of errors to be a long-term detriment to players production and it seems to have risen to a predictable problematic level over time. As an educator, I see the current results as an inevitability.
As a 30-year teacher, there is an observed reason students get a new teacher and a new start each year. A clean start allows for a remake and refresh. I'm putting this start on Brown. There is ample evidence in the last two games that the motivation is lacking in the players. Brown and his coaches need a mental reset for the team to break out of the current malaise. It starts with a reset of methodology at the top.
Last season I posted a similar concern about Brown's penchant for "punishment" of errors to be a long-term detriment to players production and it seems to have risen to a predictable problematic level over time. As an educator, I see the current results as an inevitability.
Vinny Basketballerino
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I was not aware of this. Very concerning. And when it's out of character for a guy like Keegan, you have to look to the coach for not handling that relationship well. Seems to be Trouble in Paradise.
Very concerning. If this season ends up being a disaster - who knows - do we fire Brown and promote Jordy Fernandez?
Baby giraffe should find a new slant because as bad as he’s been, we aren’t losing these games due to Davion.
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