Kings release Amundson AND Williams!

[nbrans]

why the hell did we trade Brian Skinner again?

He sucked -- people are much more in love with the idea of Brian Skinner than the actual Brian Skinner. He got his chances last year, and he sucked, plain and simple.

On the topic, people are way too emotional about this. Amundson and Williams are not the answer. They are not the answer now, they are not the answer three years from now. The Kings have a much better shot at getting a good big through a trade or free agency than waiting three years for these guys to learn some skills.

 

[moradi420]

As do I. Last preseason there were actually posts here suggesting we trade Bibby and make Hart the starter!

So I don't know what to think, people here made both players sound promising but when I reference the above all bets are off.

Also suggestions that we waive players with mid-level salaries are silly, those are valuable trade pieces at the trading deadline, if we want to go that way.

when i first joined up some guy said we should trade bibby for jasikevicous

 

[piksi]

I still don't understand why this is an issue.

It is called Jabari Smith syndrome

 

[Prophetess]

flexibility

this word should be banned.....permanently

 

[SacTownKid]

Pretty stupid if you ask me. Of course I am not sure how much upside either of these guys had but they could have been useful.

Although I do think Muss has a point on why they were released. They can now get an opprotunity to play some close to NBA level ball and hopefully come back next year and give it another try. Unless another team picks them up of course.

 

[Lamar_Odom]

What the heck? I thought one of them would make it but man this is a boneheaded decision if I ever saw one. What the heck was the point of inviting them?

www.kings.com

Camp fodder.

 

[Bricklayer]

Pretty stupid if you ask me. Of course I am not sure how much upside either of these guys had but they could have been useful.

Although I do think Muss has a point on why they were released. They can now get an opprotunity to play some close to NBA level ball and hopefully come back next year and give it another try. Unless another team picks them up of course.

Point being that we could have kept one of them on our 15 man for damn near free, and made sure that their next tryout was for us. By cutting them we are 1 team in 30, and odds are high that these guys are gone.

 

[SacTownKid]

Point being that we could have kept one of them on our 15 man for damn near free, and made sure that their next tryout was for us. By cutting them we are 1 team in 30, and odds are high that these guys are gone.

Well from what Muss had to say in that interview it sounded like he knew that if they were to stay they wouldn't have gotten enough opprotunity to develop. Like if they stayed they wouldn't go much further than they are now.

 

[Bricklayer]

Well from what Muss had to say in that interview it sounded like he knew that if they were to stay they wouldn't have gotten enough opprotunity to develop. Like if they stayed they wouldn't go much further than they are now.

Geoff hasn;t figured out that whole NBDL thing yet apparently. Pretty easy from what I understand. Sign player. Assign player to NBDL team. Wait and see.

 

[fnordius]

#&@^!!! I am completely disgusted.

 

[Fresno King]

Too bad Keon Clark is such a headcase, because we sure could use someone like him on the roster.

 

[Troy]

Too bad Keon Clark is such a headcase, because we sure could use someone like him on the roster.

We let a young Keon go in JWill2.

 

[Gary]

Sucks that they dumped both. Oh well. A lot of the decisions this team has made in the last few months has been pretty iffy in my books. One more bonehead decision wont make a difference.

 

[Jechtsphere]

If either were good enough they would of made the team...I just don't know why they don't put anyone in the NBDL when they think or say this person has potential.

 

[nbrans]

Geoff hasn;t figured out that whole NBDL thing yet apparently. Pretty easy from what I understand. Sign player. Assign player to NBDL team. Wait and see.

I doubt it was Geoff's decision whether to keep 15 players on the roster.

 

[SLAB]

Geoff hasn;t figured out that whole NBDL thing yet apparently. Pretty easy from what I understand. Sign player. Assign player to NBDL team. Wait and see.

There's just no suitable 6'5 - 6'7 PF/C's on the free agent market with marginal rebounding skills, an elbow jumper, and an interior defense styled after Brad Miller that qualify for the NBDL.

Then you factor in the fact that those type of players really are not "Flexible" pieces, there just really isn't a point now, is there?



I'm bitter.

 

[nbrans]

God, enough Petrie bashing. Nevermind that Petrie drafted Kevin Martin in the twenties, the promising backup point guard was undrafted.... heck, let's just completely overlook that one of the articles in the Bee today was that he made a run for Chris Wilcox. But no. People are going to bash him because he cut two guys who looked completely lost on the floor and weren't going to get any time anyway. Give me a break.

 

[VF21]

I can't work up too much disappointment over this. Amundson clearly just isn't ready for the NBA. Williams is also really raw. The Kings have never sent anyone to the NBDL, so I really didn't expect them to start now.

They would have seen zero time on the court anyway. We already have our designated players to hold the bench down to make sure it doesn't float up into the rafters. Who knows? At some point, they might land somewhere else...or not.

I'm sure not going to be lighting any torches or grabbing any pitchforks over this.

 

[supamari0]

It would make no sense to sign these guys and then ship them to the NBDL. So you're stuck paying an NBA salary to two guys who at this point don't really belong in the NBA.

Petrie did the smart thing. Let them go to the NBDL on their own, and if they show some promise sign them later. There's no point in locking them up now when you consider the fact that there aren't other teams running around demanding their services.

 

[Bricklayer]

It would make no sense to sign these guys and then ship them to the NBDL. So you're stuck paying an NBA salary to two guys who at this point don't really belong in the NBA.

Petrie did the smart thing. Let them go to the NBDL on their own, and if they show some promise sign them later. There's no point in locking them up now when you consider the fact that there aren't other teams running around demanding their services.

a) we don't really know that;
b) of course now if they DO improve to the point that there are teams looking for their services, we have no advantage. Maybe even a disadvantage given that we just cut them.

So here would be the scorecard -- if they improve enough to make a 12 man roster in the next year or two, we pretty much ****ed up. Again. If not, then we are fine. Wasted our time with the kids and maybe weren't so geniusy about the undrafted bigs after all, but fine. But if they are going to be good enough to be in the NBA in some regular capacity, then we should have signed them and kept our rights to them instead of tossing them onto the FA market.

 

[VF21]

Maybe what the coaching staff and Petrie saw on and off the court convinced them there just wasn't enough to work with ... at least at this point. I know I quickly became "disimpressed" with Amundson and Williams just never really seemed to do enough to warrant further looks.

 

[gunks]

I wish they gave Williams more of a chance.

I guess Petrie didnt want to risk ruining his vision of a Kings team free of shotblockers...I mean, he's kept it up for quite a few seasons now.

 

[ParniValjak]

Disappointed with the release of Williams. I thought he could develop into a very solid defensive big in time. Hopefully he goes away and develops further so we hopefully pick him up next year.

 

[VF21]

I guess Petrie didnt want to risk ruining his vision of a Kings team free of shotblockers...I mean, he's kept it up for quite a few seasons now.

Yeah, I'm sure that's it.

You know, people take a lot of potshots at Geoff Petrie. It just gets a tad old. He's the one who invited Williams to camp. If he cut him, it was because there wasn't enough potential there to make it worth while to keep him.

A guy who can block a few shots but basically can't do ANYTHING else isn't gonna see a lot of time on our squad. Why waste his time when maybe he'll get picked up overseas and actually play?

 

[GoGoGadget]

A guy who can block a few shots but basically can't do ANYTHING else isn't gonna see a lot of time on our squad.

But perhaps he should.

 

[Bricklayer]

Yeah, I'm sure that's it.

You know, people take a lot of potshots at Geoff Petrie. It just gets a tad old. He's the one who invited Williams to camp. If he cut him, it was because there wasn't enough potential there to make it worth while to keep him.

A guy who can block a few shots but basically can't do ANYTHING else isn't gonna see a lot of time on our squad. Why waste his time when maybe he'll get picked up overseas and actually play?

He could play in the NBDL too. No need for the overseas stuff, and hardly a waste of his time.

In any case this chapter in Kings flav of the month is likely closed now. Liekly closed when we chose to pick up a 6'9" 260lb SF who was waived by the Knicks of all teams. So now we return to the very real issue of Geoff not being able to snag a SINGLE shotblocker, good, bad, or indifferent. That's not good for this team, and puts a rather sharp cap on how far they could possibly go. Rick's not around to blame anymore, and I'm kind of waiting for the little light bulbs to flicker on around here about who in fact is the one common denominator in the era of Sacramentus non-shotblockonus.

 

[VF21]

My reference to "waste of time" was primarily meant to reflect Williams staying firmly at the end of the Kings bench.

I'm not sure why, but it seems to me as though it's all or nothing with the Kings. Either they make the squad or they go home. Unless my memory is slipping, I don't believe we've ever sent anyone "down to the minors."

 

[Bricklayer]

My reference to "waste of time" was primarily meant to reflect Williams staying firmly at the end of the Kings bench.

I'm not sure why, but it seems to me as though it's all or nothing with the Kings. Either they make the squad or they go home. Unless my memory is slipping, I don't believe we've ever sent anyone "down to the minors."

I think you are correct.

I;d be tempted to blame that on the Maloofs, but who knows, could be a philosophical thing too.

 

[gunks]

Ha. At least Bricklayer got my back with the Bitterness.

I know Williams wouldnt have even seen much time with the Kings this coming season had he been kept. But he could probably have gotten a few boards and a block in 8-10 minutes a game, and the kid had all kindsa potential.

He couldnt be as bad as that scrub Petrie signed who couldnt even last on the Knicks. We're gonna be stuck having Corliss as our backup C. That almost makes me feel like the Kings could be in the Oden race...Especially if Miller suffers a bigger injury during the season.

 

[VF21]

Okay, now I'm curious. How many players have actually graduated up to the NBA from the NBDL?