KINGS PICKING 4TH IN 2022 NBA DRAFT!
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yeah, I think it’s safe to say many of us would be more comfortable choosing Murray if we were picking a spot or two lower.
I’m a Daniels, or Murray fan if we move down for assets and a slightly lower pick. I’m leaning moving up as my preference and shoot for Chet or hopefully Smith. There’s little debate that either of those two would not fit and improve this team.
I’m a Daniels, or Murray fan if we move down for assets and a slightly lower pick. I’m leaning moving up as my preference and shoot for Chet or hopefully Smith. There’s little debate that either of those two would not fit and improve this team.
Yeah, it can absolutely work. You can find times for all 3 to be on the floor together and I think all 3 are interchangeable to play together at the 1-2. Flex DDV at the 3 and the remaining guard minutes. It'll take some managing of egos and non-Luke Walton esq rotations to make it work, but there's room for all 4 to have sizeable minutes roles. It's obviously just not as seamless as plugging Murray in for 30 at the starting 4 slot.
I feel pretty good about the fit with most of the prospects in our range this year. I think any of them will have a spot in the rotation so it's really just a matter of finding the player we believe in the most.
It's hard for me to see Ayton and Sabonis working out as a front court, but I also wouldn't mind being the team that gets to take advantage of Ayton's revenge tour next season. His biggest question mark dating back to his time at Arizona was his motor. Getting benched by the Suns in the conference finals might be the best thing that could have happened for his career if he uses that as motivation to play hard every night and prove he belongs in the MVP conversation. He has that level of talent if he wants it bad enough.
It's hard for me to see Ayton and Sabonis working out as a front court, but I also wouldn't mind being the team that gets to take advantage of Ayton's revenge tour next season. His biggest question mark dating back to his time at Arizona was his motor. Getting benched by the Suns in the conference finals might be the best thing that could have happened for his career if he uses that as motivation to play hard every night and prove he belongs in the MVP conversation. He has that level of talent if he wants it bad enough.
Yeah, this is where I've arrived at the last few days. In a vacuum BPA board, I have Murray 4, Ivey 5. But if we believe all the attention being paid to the 4 pick, the Kings should be able to extract real value from selling the Ivey draft slot if a team truly believes in him and we don't have the same evaluation.
I wouldn't be mad at KM being the pick obviously, but I'll definitely feel like we missed an opportunity to extract value from the draft slot.
I wouldn't be mad at KM being the pick obviously, but I'll definitely feel like we missed an opportunity to extract value from the draft slot.
I'm fully off the Sharpe train at this point. His interview doesn't help but it was more going back to the only film we have on him to see that he struggled to turn the corner or get a step on HS defenders, played essentially no defense, and lost the ball a LOT. Combine that with the unwillingness to compete or even really workout beyond his "pro day" and I see a lot of red flags.
He's essentially counting on the hype from being the #1 rated HS recruit and being a mystery box prospect.
It's what got Wiseman drafted at #2 by the Warriors, but even he had tape from 3 college games.
You know who else was a #1 HS prospect? Harrison Barnes. And Marvin Bagley. Also OJ Mayo, Josh Jackson, Shabazz Muhammad, Brandon Jennings, and some other former less than stellar NBA players that I'm forgetting.
I think Sharpe has an uphill battle to be a good NBA player, let alone a great one. And if he gets there, it won't be any time soon. He's played no college ball and missed the last part of his final year of high school. The Thunder make a lot more sense for him than the Kings as he's going to need a lot of development and a patient organization.
He's essentially counting on the hype from being the #1 rated HS recruit and being a mystery box prospect.
It's what got Wiseman drafted at #2 by the Warriors, but even he had tape from 3 college games.
You know who else was a #1 HS prospect? Harrison Barnes. And Marvin Bagley. Also OJ Mayo, Josh Jackson, Shabazz Muhammad, Brandon Jennings, and some other former less than stellar NBA players that I'm forgetting.
I think Sharpe has an uphill battle to be a good NBA player, let alone a great one. And if he gets there, it won't be any time soon. He's played no college ball and missed the last part of his final year of high school. The Thunder make a lot more sense for him than the Kings as he's going to need a lot of development and a patient organization.
The jewelry doesn't bother me but if you're drafting someone out of HS with no game tape from the last year you at least want him to come across as a student of the game, extremely motivated, and/or preternaturally skilled in workouts. I don't see any of that from Sharpe and I don't really like his high school tape either. If looking good finishing lobs and pull up threes made you a star in the NBA we'd all be wearing Ben McLemore jerseys right now.
And unless Monte absolutely hates Ivey's guts (which I wouldn't understand at all personally) you take him then wait. If he busts you at least took a swing that might change the course of this franchise at some point either via development or trade. The difference to me on Murray is if Murray doesn't change much on his own, which almost NO rookie does, or looks every bit a stretch 4 role guy in this system then this value won't hold up the way an Ivey's will. The plan should be compete this year with as flexible a future cap as you can have. Get into that play in if you can. Develop your chemistry and let your young guys grow within that. If a superstar is there for the taking to add to the core go for it and use these young guys as the bait. If not, use your FA money next season to either land another major piece or build your team completely around your core. Take another step the next year. Then if Ivey did need some development he's likely to have a much higher bump in his 3-4 season than his counterparts. That's when you peak out.
On the other hand, if this is still a disaster by the deadline, you start a rebuild around a nice backcourt and use that space to make some Thunder type moves.
On the other hand, if this is still a disaster by the deadline, you start a rebuild around a nice backcourt and use that space to make some Thunder type moves.
This was one of my ideal draft day scenarios -- try to get that #13 pick from Charlotte and nab Sochan to give us at least one plus defender at the wing/forward positions. I think with Queta/Jones, Mitchell, and Sochan we'd have enough plus defenders in the rotation to implement Mike Brown's defensive system around the Fox/Sabonis core. It also frees us up to take a chance on someone like Ivey knowing that there will be help defense available to rotate and stop guard penetration.
I didn't even have him in my top 6.
I was blindsided when the pick was announced.
Like many fans on this site, I was livid and voiced my displeasure for about a week. Then I decided to give it a chance.
Then it proved out to be an even worse decision than it seemed on draft night.
But like you said, we have to make peace and get over it.
What's important now is to not make the same mistake again....
I was blindsided when the pick was announced.
Like many fans on this site, I was livid and voiced my displeasure for about a week. Then I decided to give it a chance.
Then it proved out to be an even worse decision than it seemed on draft night.
But like you said, we have to make peace and get over it.
What's important now is to not make the same mistake again....
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