KINGS PICKING 4TH IN 2022 NBA DRAFT!
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Vlade came out and said that he was #1 on their board - the "fit" part was to explain away the fact that Luka was head and shoulders better from day one and everyone could see it. At least 40 games into the season the Kings had a better record than the Mavs and looked like they might have something. So I think it was a CYA statement. They went athleticism and perceived upside over what was already there.
If the Kings had made the playoffs the next 3 seasons it would still be a bitter pill but one I think many could have swallowed. As it turns out Doncic pretty much one-manned the Mavs to the WCF and we are picking 4th in utter fear of repeating the past mistake.
If the Kings had made the playoffs the next 3 seasons it would still be a bitter pill but one I think many could have swallowed. As it turns out Doncic pretty much one-manned the Mavs to the WCF and we are picking 4th in utter fear of repeating the past mistake.
People not understanding that Bagley made trading grant easy. Detroit is in love with Bagley and he light weight killed it over there. He's going to easily take grants production. Now they can take ivey or Murray and be happy. This trade cleared the way foe there future and did nothing to help our draft leverage. Weakened it actually
When you really look at Vlade, his trade downs were actually pretty decent value wise. The clear problem all along was his scouting. He saw Bagley as the next Giannis with no concrete evidence of him having those type of playmaking skills, although he's shown flashes. In the end he was what anyone should have seen the whole time, a 20 and 10 tweener with enough minutes that needs to play center in the modern game.
Haha. You best realize that the Kings were the issue in the end. They have consistently allowed bottom feeder coaches to destroy whatever value their young players or production players have. Hell, look what Walton did to De'Aaron. All the "He just sucks now". Just like Dedmon just sucks now. George Hill just sucks now. Nope, there is one consistent player in all of this and it's the KANGZ. As soon and Fox got his spot back, dude puts up near 30 a game. In the end it worked because it at least maxed out Hali's value.
Especially when their attempts to fill the center spot with decent role players totally backfired. They ended up with Holmes, who very well could be difficult to move for any value at this point. As a starter he's good value, as a 14 mpg backup. OH BOY. If he's willing to accept the role and does what he can do and the Kings win, he's still a positive but on a premium. Notice how Brown said he had met with Holmes and his agent. Hopefully he wasn't dishing out free agent Vlade level promises.
I still believe he can be a good contributor to a winning team, if not a star. In the end, I think it quite likely that when we look back at this trade few years down the line, we feel that we got robbed. Hope that doesn't turn out to be the case. Not wishing bad for Bagley. Just hoping that DDV can match him.
That said, the trade was likely still required. Bagley might achieve stardom, and at least be a good player, but I don't think it would have happened with us, not after all this time.
That said, the trade was likely still required. Bagley might achieve stardom, and at least be a good player, but I don't think it would have happened with us, not after all this time.
I was team Luka but I made peace with the Bagley decision early on. I stuck up for him right until his agent demanded the trade before opening night. Bagley was 4th on my big board that year (which admittedly did not include Trae). Under Joerger I liked what we saw.
Walton was supposed to be a players' coach and ease whatever foundational issues were arising between Bagley's camp and the franchise but only exacerbated them. Although I do believe that Bagley is soft and won't play through injuries that many of his peers will. That's his right, but it doesn't endear him to teammates, coaches and fans.
Walton was supposed to be a players' coach and ease whatever foundational issues were arising between Bagley's camp and the franchise but only exacerbated them. Although I do believe that Bagley is soft and won't play through injuries that many of his peers will. That's his right, but it doesn't endear him to teammates, coaches and fans.
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