Kings Persuing Aaron Brooks?

[pshn80]

Just talked to JT and he told me he thinks your a scrub..

And that was the nicest thing he had to say.

 

[pshn80]

What we need to do right now is not listen to every panicked trade proposal that comes up and let our young players have a chance to actually develop.

Agree. Let's play it out another ten or twenty games.

 

[Boogie-havoc]

If the Kings front office are smart, they'll be trying to get Toney Douglas.

 

[Tetsujin]

For some reason, you are just dying to ship out all our bigs...

How about Cousins, JT, and Whiteside for Brooks and Lowry. Solve our logjam at the big spots while also getting PG help

 

[Boogie-havoc]

How about Cousins, JT, and Whiteside for Brooks and Lowry. Solve our logjam at the big spots while also getting PG help

Add Afflalo to the mix and I think you could be on to something here.

 

[MassachusettsKingsFan]

What upper-level tiered PG should we/could we target then? I think Brooks is the best of the bunch that's potentially available.

Well, my first point would be that we dont need one who is offensively better than Beno Udrih. We could use one who can equal Benos production while playing good defense.

You point is valid, there just arent many point guards available, but with Brooks .. He's not going to do any better than Beno on defense, and on offense I dont think he can play off the ball as well as Beno has been able to do with Reke.

I like Toney Douglas. He plays very good defense, he's young and he can shoot.

Kirk Hinrich is a very good defender, and a good shooter, good size, can play off the ball. I like him alot, He is a vet (which alot of people here say we need) Im sure he is available on a rebuilding Wizard team. He makes a lot of money though.

Two other interesting names are Eric Maynor and Avery Bradley.

I guess my overall point is, IF our main target right now is a point guard, it should be one who is better than Head on offense ( at least Beno Udrih level ) and equal or better than Head on defense. Being young doesnt hurt either.

 

[Arby's Roast Beef]

He's goes on obsessive three point binges that can help your team out when he's clicking, but he's small, largely a jumpshooter, and passes the ball like a combo, and that combination normally doesn't bode well at all. Average defender at best, but more poor. He actually IMO was a top 15 PG last year, but that was his career year, and I'm skeptical whether he can reciprocate. I like him as a popcorn scorer off the bench who gets major minutes.

Pairing him with Reke could work in the sense we get a major speedster who can irritate the slow footed PGs in the league and his shooting will help, though. I don't like his overall profile, but for this team, it's not terrible actually.

 

[Arby's Roast Beef]

He's goes on obsessive three point binges that can help your team out when he's clicking, but he's small, largely a jumpshooter, and passes the ball like a combo, and that combination normally doesn't bode well at all. Average defender at best, but more poor. He actually IMO was a top 15 PG last year, but that was his career year, and I'm skeptical whether he can reciprocate. I like him as a popcorn scorer off the bench who gets major minutes.

Pairing him with Reke could work in the sense we get a major speedster who can irritate the slow footed PGs in the league and his shooting will help, too. I don't like his overall profile, but for this team, it's not terrible actually.

 

[bajaden]

How about Cousins, JT, and Whiteside for Brooks and Lowry. Solve our logjam at the big spots while also getting PG help

Glad you put the smiley face there. You had me worried for a moment. Too many drugs or something...

 

[LWP777]

Just talked to JT and he told me he thinks your a scrub..

You've been sticking up for JT for 2 years now. When are you finally going to get a clue and admit he's a marginal NBA player? You love to talk about the potential and talent that NBA players have and make excuses for them. Let me let you in on a little secret: Every young NBA player has potential and talent -- otherwise they wouldn't be in the NBA.

Unfortunately, JT will always just be that in addition to being a hyper-active, low basketball IQ, bad hands player with an NBA body.

 

[Section 101]

Anyone who routinely runs down court, and without making a single pass chucks up a three is a chucker. He's just a fairly accurate chucker.

Same could be said for someone not making a pass and tossing up a brick off the glass. And his fg % is even lower than Brooks. .433 vs .429.

 

[OptimusRhyme]

I'm not opposed to going out and getting a PG. Petrie, god love him, can't resist going after good offensive players. It probably pains him to watch Dalembert throw up clunkers at the basket, regardless of the defense he brings. Could the Kings use another good shooter? Yes! Do we need another good shooter at the expense of our defense, which is sole purpose of Dalembert? Good question.

I guess one could argue that hell, Beno can't play defense anyway, so if its a push defensively and we improve offensively, then why not? Well in my opinion, our offensive problems don't have as much to do with bad shooting, as they do with not running anything that resembles an offense. Now if you can solve both problems with one player, I'm on board.

There's nothing wrong with this offense that Steve Nash couldn't fix. And don't get me wrong, Nash can score the basketball. Its just that scoring the basketball is like number 10 on his list of things to do when he's on the court. And still he gets his points.

If were going to go after a PG, then go after one that will make his teammates better. Get them the ball at the spot, where and when they need it. Get someone that knows how to run the pick and roll properly, and with the intention of getting the ball to his teammate first, if open, and taking his own shot second. I'm even willing to sacrifice a little defense if you can get me someone with just 75% of Nash's ability.

So does Brooks fit that description? To my mind he doesn't. I certainly wouldn't mind having him on the team, but to be honest, I lost my lust for diminutive PG's shortly after Spud Webb departed. They can be fun to watch though. I don't happen to be a big fan of Quarterbacks that are 6' or under either, unless they're named Joe Montana.

Here's an idea. Why not go after someone like Jose Calderon. His downside is his age, at 29, and his salary which is 9 mil a year with two more years after this year. His upside is that he's a good shooter, but doesn't look for his own shot first. His lifetime FGA is 49.2% and his 3 pt average is 38.6%. Both of which are very good. He's a pass first PG that averages 6.5 assists to 1.6 turnovers a game for his career. Thats an outstanding assist to turnover average. He's an experienced pt guard that could also mentor Tyreke for the next couple of years.

Trading both Thompson and Beno for Calderon works on trade checker. Calderon has good size at 6'3" and while he isn't a lock down defender, is a better defender than Beno is. Anyway, just my thoughts on the matter.

i agree with alot of this. we need someone that can run the offense and take that pressure off of reke. But can still score and hit the three. I think Dragic would be pretty awesome on the kings, you can tell hes learned alot from nash. Lowry wouldnt be a bad option either.

 

[bajaden]

You've been sticking up for JT for 2 years now. When are you finally going to get a clue and admit he's a marginal NBA player? You love to talk about the potential and talent that NBA players have and make excuses for them. Let me let you in on a little secret: Every young NBA player has potential and talent -- otherwise they wouldn't be in the NBA.

Unfortunately, JT will always just be that in addition to being a hyper-active, low basketball IQ, bad hands player with an NBA body.

I have also been critical of JT as well. I don't have a love afair with any player. I just look at them as an investment in time and money. I do have a line I draw in the sand for every player. I just don't want to make the mistake I've seen other teams make over the years of dumping a player too soon and then having that player suddenly develop on someone else's team. I've been right about a lot of players in my time and I've certainly been wrong about a lot of players. Your right, most young players coming into the league have potential. And knowing which one's are the sure things always has an element of luck attached. Simply because they're human beings and not machines.

But that aside, I just have a problem with people calling players names. Regardless of whether he's is a good player or a bad player, he doesn't deserve to be called anything behind his back that you wouldn't call him to his face. And I seriously doubt you would call Thompson a scrub to his face. You and I can disagree or perhaps even agree on his abilites, but thats a different issue from just calling him, or any player names. So my disagreement with you has nothing to do with your being critical of Thompson. I just don't like the name calling.

 

[LWP777]

I just don't like the name calling.

I'm sure you'll get over it!

 

[Boogie-havoc]

i agree with alot of this. we need someone that can run the offense and take that pressure off of reke. But can still score and hit the three. I think Dragic would be pretty awesome on the kings, you can tell hes learned alot from nash. Lowry wouldnt be a bad option either.

I'll say again - Toney Douglas.

The guy is a fantastic defender, shoots the 3 very well, and is making signs of a breakout season this or the next year... he has the right attitude on the floor and gives his heart when he's there.

Would be a great fit for Reke.

 

[Bricklayer]

Same could be said for someone not making a pass and tossing up a brick off the glass. And his fg % is even lower than Brooks. .433 vs .429.

Dude, you've made your hatred so transparent that your arguments carry all the punch of a water baloon. You've basically sacrificed your enjoyment as a fan to a petty vendetta. Reke isn't going anywhere, somewhere you know that, and so you are going to spend your remaining life as a fan gnawing your own heart out, rooting against your own players, hoping we don't win if its Reke making it happen, and a whole bunch of other icky unfun stuff. And there is nobody to blame but the man in the mirror. You chose this miserable path the day Tyreke was drafted. He didn't do it to you. The Kings didn't do it to you. You did it you yourself. Its just sad.

 

[nbaFan]

I'll say again - Toney Douglas.

The guy is a fantastic defender, shoots the 3 very well, and is making signs of a breakout season this or the next year... he has the right attitude on the floor and gives his heart when he's there.

Would be a great fit for Reke.

what you see in Douglas is exactly what New York sees in him. No way they get rid of him,especially on his rookie contract. He's a steal for where he was drafted. Give this pipe dream up.

 

[kingsboi]

I would absolutely love to get Toney Douglas. Problem is New York is not going to trade him, they are very high on him and he isn't going anywhere anytime soon. So we have to look in another direction. As for Aaron Brooks, I would love to have him on the Kings. He is a 20+ point scorer almost every night and while he might be a liability on defense, his offense should make up for it. Only thing is, he is a free agent after this year so the Kings would have to be careful of losing him for nothing.

 

[bajaden]

I'm sure you'll get over it!

Glad I could be a good influence on you. Happy Thanksgiving!

 

[bajaden]

what you see in Douglas is exactly what New York sees in him. No way they get rid of him,especially on his rookie contract. He's a steal for where he was drafted. Give this pipe dream up.

His pipe dream is actually more reasonable than most. But hey, thats what life is all about. Dreams for the future. And some of them just happen to be pipe dreams. Like my dream of winning the lottery... Damm!

 

[Sac.1989]

If we cant land him via a trade i strongly feel GP will give him that new contract money hes looking for. Our lead scout, Scotty Stirling, voted to take him over Spencer Hawes in the draft after all so hes been long liked by the org.