Huge disappointment in WCS? Papa is a young kid who I think has some upside to be solid in things. I'd like to see him play more at some point. He works his ass off. WCS....just doesn't bring it enough....hard to like his game. No one could ever argue that Boogie didnt bring it most of the time. Koufos plays hard, Papa plays hard, Cooley, Sampson. WCS? Flip a coin on which guy shows up.....I just can't see him as the guy going forward but like someone said in the thread earlier, he was drafted as a complement to Boogie. Now there is no Boogie. It's a problem.
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You remind me of a certain other forum member........almost word for word the same stuff every post. There is nothing wrong with the stuff we are running, guys not making shots is the problem.
Vladizzle
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Running high post offense and isolation post ups on a team with upside guards is moronic.
We are literally running the same thing Joerger has run his entire tenure as an NBA coach but instead of Cousins it's a washed up Zbo. It's not good basketball or development. It doesn't even give us a chance to compete or grow.
Koufos is a stalwart on defense out there. Of course he's going to look like he sucks when Malachi gives him the ball 15ft out with 5 seconds on the shot clock and clears the block to let him go to work. That's not his game and he's constantly being put into ZBo's spots on the floor for some reason.
Larry David
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He would, but we’d put him in the high post and run offense through him at the foul line
allrightythen
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Let me just say that I can recognize how terrible the Kings are playing without being angry or thinking it's the worst thing ever. As entertainment I can't watch it, but I'm not upset with anyone nor am I ready to call for anyone to get fired. The thing about rookies and young players is that they can be talented and show flashes of greatness while still failing to understand how to play winning basketball. I am concerned about a perceived lack of effort.
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Didnt we just put up 70ish in the first half against NO?
Vladizzle
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Sample size? Was that under Joerger offense, or was that due to transition and not Joerger's offense.
And your sample size is? How about we let these guys play together for a while or not.....pretty sure you have made your feelings known....over and over. Or not.
Vladizzle
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My sample size is two teams and 3.1 seasons as an NBA head coach. Versus your one half.
My sample size is two teams and 3.1 seasons as an NBA head coach. Versus your one half.
And did Joerger win in those seasons?
Vladizzle
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He won with a team that made it to the WCF the year before he became head coach lol. Except they never made it back there with him.
The Effort Police
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He had the right personnel there run things that way. You know he's doing 2/3rds of what EVERYONE got on George Karl's case for doing. The only thing that's missing is being a jackass and alienating your young/star players, as I'm pretty sure his teams will play hard and like him regardless. But the square-peg, round hole style of play and overreliance on vets/his favorites is exactly the same.
Vladizzle
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Yeah you CAN'T run an offense designed for Marc Gasol/Zbo inside clutter for a team of young guards and wings.. this is in large why he got canned after trying to keep that Gasol/Zbo pound the paint, high post offense after Zbo started declining and it stopped working. Speaking of alienating, that's exactly what that offense does to wing/guard players...they are constantly stuck in the mindset of having to dump it inside first and slow it down...never getting into any rythym.
Wait....because he didnt get back to the WCF finals, he's not good enough. That's your argument? The guy wins. Right?
Vladizzle
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No, you guys are trying to talk him up because he 'made the playoffs' with the Grizzlies, like that is some accomplishment to go off of. You'd have to try to not make the playoffs with a core that just made it to the WCF the year prior.
The guy runs his vets into the ground to get wins with the Grizz, Marc and Conley burned out every year come playoff time.
Or......the guy wins.
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