Kings need a few vets
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I'd love to have a Ray Allen type on our team. A pure shooter that can play the 2 that doesn't need to have the ball in his hands all the time. Also, a guy like Ray Allen could be the leader of a young team like ours. Ray prolly only has two more years left, and I have no idea what his contract situation is like, and I wouldn't want to pay more than the MLE for him, and I'm sure some other team would be willing to pay more.
I have no idea if Allen is still under contract with the Celtics or not. Can anybody think of another player similar to Ray Allen that would make perfect sense for this team? The thing we need more than anything, is a two guard who can play alongside Tyreke, that doesn't need the ball in his hands all the time. A guy that can come off screens and hit 3 balls with consistency. Reke can penetrate and either dish off to Cousins or Landry, or possibly Dalembert, and we can also go inside to Cousins, and if he's doubled, he can kick it out to a spot up shooter guy that has a pure stroke.
I have no idea if Allen is still under contract with the Celtics or not. Can anybody think of another player similar to Ray Allen that would make perfect sense for this team? The thing we need more than anything, is a two guard who can play alongside Tyreke, that doesn't need the ball in his hands all the time. A guy that can come off screens and hit 3 balls with consistency. Reke can penetrate and either dish off to Cousins or Landry, or possibly Dalembert, and we can also go inside to Cousins, and if he's doubled, he can kick it out to a spot up shooter guy that has a pure stroke.
eddie house isnt a bad option, theres nate robinson who could play the 2 or 1 but im not sure about his persona and how he'd fit and then theres sugar ray who we would have to pay over odds to get but would fit perfectly.
Theres also JJ Redick. Korver, Wes Matthews whose young and would fit well i feel
Theres also JJ Redick. Korver, Wes Matthews whose young and would fit well i feel
I am still on the Steve Novak bandwagon. The guy can shoot and that's what we definitely need. Been a fan of his since he came into the league.. Wanted the Kings to use a 2nd rounder on him.
I would also LOVE to bring Jason Williams back for a couple years.. Still have his signed jersey.
Pretty much others that were listed here too.
I would also LOVE to bring Jason Williams back for a couple years.. Still have his signed jersey.
Pretty much others that were listed here too.
Amazingly that was exactly who I was thinnking of too. And he doesn't need to be any younger, because frankly outside of a star level guy, nobody else we bring in is going to play any minutes anyway. Think about it, our "little guys" are now:
SF - Donte and Casspi battle it out
SG - Cisco
PG - Tyreke, Beno
With Beno of course a lot at SG, Casspi and Greene swingin down etc. Basically all of the minutes are accounted for, and all of the guys but Reke can shoot a little. So while I would like a vet who can shoot, but I really want is a veteran teacher/leader, even if he's decrepit. doubt Fisher would come up to play mentor, but that's really all that's needed.
Some of the other choices were good thoughts too -- Allen, but I think people are right that he's got too much ego/stature to want to come here and play nanny, House? -- not sure if he has enoguh stature, but maybe, JWill I had not thought of, somebody mentioned Bell yesterday. Just an old vet, who has won, can shoot, and provide leadership. But unless its a guy like Allen who could start, it can't be somebody expecting to play many minutes, because we don't have them open. And I would frankly rather not have it be a major SF, because this is Donte and Omri's year to battle it out and see who is going to be the future starter, and who is going to be the 6tth man. No more squishing them with pointless vets.
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I'm out on the East Coast so I follow the C's closely. Ray at this point in his career doesn't want to up root his family from I think Connecticut I was reading and he realizes he's at the end of his time in the NBA he wants to go back to the C's to finish it out. I thought I heard that if he doesn't go back to the C's he would be willing to listen to offers from NY and Jersey once again the family thing.
As for vets I really think we should follow the OKC route, let these guys grow and blossom together see what happens. But I'd love to have a personality like DFish in that locker room that would be great for this team. I was listening to sportstalk radio yesterday and they were talking about Paul Pierce opting out, he's a Cali guy and wants one last nice contract. He has that old man game and he is sort of a black hole, but he's the only vet type presence I could see coming here and being of use to these guys.
As for vets I really think we should follow the OKC route, let these guys grow and blossom together see what happens. But I'd love to have a personality like DFish in that locker room that would be great for this team. I was listening to sportstalk radio yesterday and they were talking about Paul Pierce opting out, he's a Cali guy and wants one last nice contract. He has that old man game and he is sort of a black hole, but he's the only vet type presence I could see coming here and being of use to these guys.
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Am I the only one who thinks having Garcia and Beno as our vets is enough?
When you consider the fact that Bobby Jackson and SAR are on our staff, and only retired recently... I'm sure they act as veteran leaders aswell. I mean, if were looking to sign vets to sit on the bench, we alreay have 2 who won't take up roster spots.
Our Chemistry last year was good, adding any big time personalitys could kill that.
When you consider the fact that Bobby Jackson and SAR are on our staff, and only retired recently... I'm sure they act as veteran leaders aswell. I mean, if were looking to sign vets to sit on the bench, we alreay have 2 who won't take up roster spots.
Our Chemistry last year was good, adding any big time personalitys could kill that.
I think that as well when I think of signing any type of vet right now or even a FA back court mate, I sadly don't see them meshing with Reke. All of the lesser FAs out there (Gay, Nate, etc) just don't seem worth it for the price we'd have to pay.
I wanna def see what a full training camp and preseason with Landry and Sisco can do for these guys.
Perhaps, but I think it was telling that Reke mentioned the need for a vet to help him with the leadership stuff before the draft. he is obviously in aplace to know better than us. And we just added two potential knuckleheads to the fold to throw extra pressure on the structure. An old proven winner could be a handy counter/mentor. Nio more minutes to distribute to younger guys anyway, so might as well look to add a little leadership.
Perhaps, but I think it was telling that Reke mentioned the need for a vet to help him with the leadership stuff before the draft. He is obviously in a place to know better than us. And we just added two potential knuckleheads to the fold to throw extra pressure on the structure. An old proven winner or two could be a handy counter/mentor. There are really no more minutes to distribute to younger guys (or any guys) anyway, so might as well look to add a little leadership.
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Vets Currently on the Kings
Dalembert, Cisco, Udrih
Cisco is a very vocal leader. Believe it or not Cisco is 29. Yeah he's getting close to 30...it was hard to believe myself. I'm not going to say that it wouldnt' be nice to pick up a vet, but not just for the sake of picking up a vet, only if it really fills a need, because we do have a couple vets, and the main leader of those vets is Cisco.
Dalembert, Cisco, Udrih
Cisco is a very vocal leader. Believe it or not Cisco is 29. Yeah he's getting close to 30...it was hard to believe myself. I'm not going to say that it wouldnt' be nice to pick up a vet, but not just for the sake of picking up a vet, only if it really fills a need, because we do have a couple vets, and the main leader of those vets is Cisco.
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I kind of go along with those that think we already some vets on the team. Whats Dalembert, chopped liver? You have to consider Beno and Garcia vets. The last thing I want to do is bring in a vet to be a leader. I want Tyreke to be the leader, and he doesn't need any dominant personalitys to contend with.
Fisher would be a great one year addition, but I doubt he wants to come here. I'm sure he'd rather finish his career in La La land. I've always liked Mike Miller, although he's become a little injury prone. I'm sure the FO will find someone through freeagency. I really doubt it will be Ray Allen.
Fisher would be a great one year addition, but I doubt he wants to come here. I'm sure he'd rather finish his career in La La land. I've always liked Mike Miller, although he's become a little injury prone. I'm sure the FO will find someone through freeagency. I really doubt it will be Ray Allen.
I agree. He works his A** off, he's tough as nails, and he's been in the league for a while. I hope he really steps up next year as a leader. This team is really going to need it. Thompson may not be a leader, but he can be a great role model because of his work ethic. And of course, Garcia (Please stay healthy).
I think Beno and Garcia are fine vets for our team. Look at OKC, they don't have any vets on their team (though they do have a guy by the name of Kevin Durant), and they almost eliminated the Lakers from the playoffs. On top of that, their front line will be no where as dominant as ours will be.
All in all, I'm not opposed to a veteran presence, but I don't think it's 100% needed.
All in all, I'm not opposed to a veteran presence, but I don't think it's 100% needed.
I know these threads are all about who but I'm more interested in where, at what position are we best served. In that vein I think that for the vet, which I agree is a must, we must have someone who plays a lot. If that's the case, we have two positions that we need help at, 2 and 3. We do need another pg but not to play a lot of minutes. At the 2 is probably the best. There we have Garcia as a experienced and useful backup who should play significant minutes but who would work well with a gnarly old veteran starter with lots of experience, well respected and needing to rest a little bit more now thus Garcia for a backup.
If we are not going to continue investing lots of playing time in both Casspi and Greene then the 3 spot could be the site to plop a vet as starter letting one of the two present SFs get significant backup time. So a lot depends on the direction coach and Petrie want to go. Of course the final decision would be colored by who's available. Again I'll wait for the Petrie press conference.
If we are not going to continue investing lots of playing time in both Casspi and Greene then the 3 spot could be the site to plop a vet as starter letting one of the two present SFs get significant backup time. So a lot depends on the direction coach and Petrie want to go. Of course the final decision would be colored by who's available. Again I'll wait for the Petrie press conference.
