Kings get DDV, Trey Lyles, Josh Jackson & trade Marvin Bagley III to Pistons in 4 team trade.

Buyer's market. For whatever reason, the Pistons really wanted Bagley. And Monte found a way to get an asset he prized in the process after multiple teams were roped in, in addition to taking a flyer on Jackson and snagging a quality rotation guy like Lyles. Just really solid GMing.
I honestly would not be surprised if Bagley turns is around somewhere else. He was doomed from the start with the Kings. As soon as Luka started showing his stuff, Bagley was never going to work here. The attitude, the drama......he needed a fresh start and we needed one as well. Solid salvage job by Monte here.
 
I honestly would not be surprised if Bagley turns is around somewhere else. He was doomed from the start with the Kings. As soon as Luka started showing his stuff, Bagley was never going to work here. The attitude, the drama......he needed a fresh start and we needed one as well. Solid salvage job by Monte here.
I wanted Luka but I felt it only went truly sour after the first injury in year 2. They nuked the FO, a coach, everyone to make Bagley work and then he just kept missing time. I hate to question his drive but a lot of these injuries he spent months rehabbing were the things that most players play through. Obviously nobody wants a bad situation to get worse and their health matters, but the amount of time missed for the most athletic freak in the draft just didn't add up.

He probably will blow up elsewhere with a fresh slate, assuming he goes somewhere he really wants to be and his dad stays the F out of the way.
 
Vlade wasnt all bad. He did get rid of the gerbil pete d'Alessandro who should go down as the single worst GM of all time.

Na, dude didn’t draft Marvin Bagley instead of Luka Doncic. Pete wins.

Monte’s in a different universe than both though, so who cares! Lmao
 
Monte got his guy after all. He missed most of this season with injury so I don't know how much you will see of that Donte can really provide until he fully recovers but he defends and hustles and that's good enough reason for me to hope Monte re-signs him to a reasonable contract with maybe some incentives included.
 
Na, dude didn’t draft Marvin Bagley instead of Luka Doncic. Pete wins.

Monte’s in a different universe than both though, so who cares! Lmao
Vlade was terrible at talent evaluation but at least his team could seal the deal when it came to signing players. None of them fit really well and we overpaid, but the amount of talent that the two poopoo heads let walk for nothing ON TOP of being terrible at the draft and firing the best coach we've had since Adelman just out of pettiness lands them a special spot.

We blew it in the draft. We blew it hard by lasering on one choice and not conducting proper workouts and getting a thorough background check on how horrible the Bagley family would become and just f'd it all to hell but as great as Luka is Dallas has proven incredibly horrible at building around him and he isn't without some diva qualities that were part of the reason Divac shied away. I guess what sucks is that Bagley was worse in those areas too.
 
Give Vlade some credit though, 2/3 of this core is pure VLADE.
To be fair Barnes is like the one good trade acquisition Vlade ever made at a bargain price so cheap he would have had to been an amoeba to refuse and Fox was complete luck that the one prospect who wanted to be in Sac in that draft class happened to be very good at basketball
 
Vlade wasnt all bad. He did get rid of the gerbil pete d'Alessandro who should go down as the single worst GM of all time.

Sure about that? Let me remind you of one particular year with Vlade in charge..

How Vlade Divac ruined the Trade Deadline - Sports Talk Philly: Philadelphia Sports News and Rumors

Sacramento Kings: The Aftermath Of The Infamous Trade In 2015 (aroyalpain.com)

To free up cap space to build around Cousins with talent, the 2015 trade pf Jason Thompson, Nik Stauskas and Carl Landry to Philly in exchange for future first round pick from the Kings, as well as rights to swap first round picks in 2016 and 2017.
Vlade drafts Willie Cauley Stein with the 6th pick overall.
Vlade uses the cap space to sign Rajon Rondo, Marco Belinelli, Luc Mbah a Moute, Kosta Koufos, and Caron Butler.

2015-2016 record 33 wins and 49 losses.
 
I wanted Luka but I felt it only went truly sour after the first injury in year 2. They nuked the FO, a coach, everyone to make Bagley work and then he just kept missing time. I hate to question his drive but a lot of these injuries he spent months rehabbing were the things that most players play through. Obviously nobody wants a bad situation to get worse and their health matters, but the amount of time missed for the most athletic freak in the draft just didn't add up.

He probably will blow up elsewhere with a fresh slate, assuming he goes somewhere he really wants to be and his dad stays the F out of the way.
I sincerely doubt Bagley will blow up anywhere. Too many holes in his game and not enough drive to succeed. He has made very little effort to improve his game or even his body. Guys with little drive like that don’t usually reach great heights.
 
Sad to see Bagley go.

I think he got a lot of blame for stuff that wasn't his fault, namely atrocious player development by the Kings.

Doug Christie really made a huge impact getting him to learn how to play defense this year.

I think it's a good pickup for Detroit. I think if used properly he can be a very solid player.
 
Sad to see Bagley go.

I think he got a lot of blame for stuff that wasn't his fault, namely atrocious player development by the Kings.

Doug Christie really made a huge impact getting him to learn how to play defense this year.

I think it's a good pickup for Detroit. I think if used probably he can be a very solid player.
And now he gets to mold DDV and Josh Jackson
 
Sure about that? Let me remind you of one particular year with Vlade in charge..

How Vlade Divac ruined the Trade Deadline - Sports Talk Philly: Philadelphia Sports News and Rumors

Sacramento Kings: The Aftermath Of The Infamous Trade In 2015 (aroyalpain.com)

To free up cap space to build around Cousins with talent, the 2015 trade pf Jason Thompson, Nik Stauskas and Carl Landry to Philly in exchange for future first round pick from the Kings, as well as rights to swap first round picks in 2016 and 2017.
Vlade drafts Willie Cauley Stein with the 6th pick overall.
Vlade uses the cap space to sign Rajon Rondo, Marco Belinelli, Luc Mbah a Moute, Kosta Koufos, and Caron Butler.

2015-2016 record 33 wins and 49 losses.
Everyone cites this as Exhibit B in the case against Vlade and it is bad but I think you also laid a lot out here which needs to be taken under consideration. Why couldn't Vlade just trade a pick to move out of those contracts? Well, he couldn't, because the Kings had made a trade of seemingly little consequence at the start of the decade that took almost the entire 2010s to convey. THAT one, was on Petrie, btw.

And why was Thompson on a big overpay deal and Stauskas and Landry in Sac in the first place? Because the two knuckleheaded monster. Vlade was given an unenviable task of cleaning up a giant mess of others' doing and he had to do it before he had even an ounce of experience. He f'd up big time and did a lot of learning on the job that crippled this franchise and left us in the hole Monte had to climb out of, but he didn't turn a good team into a bad one, he almost even brought us a .500 team before the wheels came off. His biggest failing was tunnel vision coupled with inexperience/naivete.
 
I wanted Luka but I felt it only went truly sour after the first injury in year 2. They nuked the FO, a coach, everyone to make Bagley work and then he just kept missing time. I hate to question his drive but a lot of these injuries he spent months rehabbing were the things that most players play through. Obviously nobody wants a bad situation to get worse and their health matters, but the amount of time missed for the most athletic freak in the draft just didn't add up.

He probably will blow up elsewhere with a fresh slate, assuming he goes somewhere he really wants to be and his dad stays the F out of the way.

Either Bagley was just plain made of glass or he had no desire to put his body on the line for the Kings. It may be both, but some of those injuries that most players would walk off and return the same game, sent Bagley to IR for 3-4 weeks!

It was crazy. I've never seen a player take a small tumble, but no broken bones, and be out a month. Unbelievable! If Bagley doesn't toughen up and play through those nicks and bruises, he will never be able to make it big in the NBA!
 
I can’t wait until Dadley gets mad at the Pistons for not playing Bagels 40 minutes and giving him all of Jerami Grant’s 20+ shots a game.
 
Vlade gets zero credit for Fox as he was the 5th remaining in a 5 deep draft, and by all accounts Vlade really wanted Josh Jackson.

Now that Josh Jackson is on the team, I believe that makes at least 6 players from the 2017 draft class that have been on the KINGS roster so far.
 
I can’t wait until Dadley gets mad at the Pistons for not playing Bagels 40 minutes and giving him all of Jerami Grant’s 20+ shots a game.
Until he doesn't I believe he's already got the tweets in his drafts folder.
 
Everyone cites this as Exhibit B in the case against Vlade and it is bad but I think you also laid a lot out here which needs to be taken under consideration. Why couldn't Vlade just trade a pick to move out of those contracts? Well, he couldn't, because the Kings had made a trade of seemingly little consequence at the start of the decade that took almost the entire 2010s to convey. THAT one, was on Petrie, btw.

And why was Thompson on a big overpay deal and Stauskas and Landry in Sac in the first place? Because the two knuckleheaded monster. Vlade was given an unenviable task of cleaning up a giant mess of others' doing and he had to do it before he had even an ounce of experience. He f'd up big time and did a lot of learning on the job that crippled this franchise and left us in the hole Monte had to climb out of, but he didn't turn a good team into a bad one, he almost even brought us a .500 team before the wheels came off. His biggest failing was tunnel vision coupled with inexperience/naivete.
Well Said. Thumps up.
 
Where can I sign up?

How about Donovan Mitchell, too? How freaking cool would the brothers Mitchell be?? Lol.
The true spectacular thing about this trade deadline day is that no team in the west appears to have done anything to get quantifiable better aside from the Kings and Pelicans. Depending on how the postseason goes, there could be an avalanche of change at the top of the western conference (not even counting the Suns having to figure out what they’re going to do with Ayton since they didn’t extend him) and the flippin Kings could be in position to capitalize (though I doubt Donovan would be one of the guys they’d go for).
 
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Divincenzo is a great pickup.

Lyles is tied with Grant with the best VORP on the Pistons.

Hopefully no one is holding their breath on Josh Jackson getting better. Year 5 and he still has the stats of a rookie bust.
 
Hopefully no one is holding their breath on Josh Jackson getting better. Year 5 and he still has the stats of a rookie bust.
He's a nice throw in to a deal we'd have done anyways. Kings traditionally get high mileage off those guys, but I don't have many expectations, I'd like to see him rehabbed just a smaller bit and sent off in the next deal. But who knows, he's on his last legs and has incentive to play for a change.
 
As much as Jackson has struggled, I would have traded Bagley for him, straight across

I wouldn't have. Jackson actually has negative win shares for his career. I think Bagley has like 6. Neither player is very good but Jackson is on a whole other level of sucky compared to Bagley.

He's a nice throw in to a deal we'd have done anyways. Kings traditionally get high mileage off those guys, but I don't have many expectations, I'd like to see him rehabbed just a smaller bit and sent off in the next deal. But who knows, he's on his last legs and has incentive to play for a change.

I'm all for him playing because it'll help with the draft pick so we can come out swinging next year but the dude is really bad. I thought he was a sure thing coming out of college too.
 
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