Kings expected to sign Mike Brown to long-term 10 million dollar per year extension

The key thing is less about the dollar value, and more that players and coaches can demand a proportional amount of the NBA's total revenue. And that has been growing dramatically every year

A lot of people who became fans of the NBA when they were kids have this narrative that the NBA has declined from the high water marks of their youth. But, excluding the dead-ball era of the late 90s, the NBA has been terrifically successful as a business growing revenue. The last TV deal the NBA negotiated was before the Warriors dynasty era. The new one is reported to be in the realm of $75 billion over 11 years, (roughly triple the annual revenue of the previous deal)

Everybody in the association is going to have a lot more in their pockets soon
It will be interesting to see how the deal works for the fans. Looks like they’ve carved up more pieces of pie which means exclusivity for each partner. Great for players and coaches who receive this revenue in their checks, most likely terrible for us.
 
My guess it is this about guaranteed years or power because it seems like coaches pretty much get in that 10 million range anyway.
Control is absolutely part of this, and there was some vague chatter that Brown wanted to keep the core intact last year while Vivek was eager to add a third star and Monte is trying to meet in the middle by acquiring such a player that would actually fit here so we don't have a Westbrook type situation (or what seems to now be a Beal situation in Phoenix).

If there is some kind of playoff ultimatum - there has to be, right? - I imagine the tabling is to see the draft and early free agency results because Brown can use his side of the option as leverage too.

Words can not describe what a joke this team will be if it is Brown opting out of the 4th year and leaving.
 
Control is absolutely part of this, and there was some vague chatter that Brown wanted to keep the core intact last year while Vivek was eager to add a third star and Monte is trying to meet in the middle by acquiring such a player that would actually fit here so we don't have a Westbrook type situation (or what seems to now be a Beal situation in Phoenix).

If there is some kind of playoff ultimatum - there has to be, right? - I imagine the tabling is to see the draft and early free agency results because Brown can use his side of the option as leverage too.

Words can not describe what a joke this team will be if it is Brown opting out of the 4th year and leaving.

If that vague chatter is true, I see why Vivek is hesitant. Monte sided with the coach, and the year was a wash. It wasn’t good enough. And if it wasn’t good enough because the coach got his way, why in the world would he be given power?
 
Monty Williams earned $15 million a year for 6 years coming off a COY win.

Start there, and then account for the fact that all 30 NBA teams are going to have a huge dumptruck of cash dropped on them within a year or two.
 
If that vague chatter is true, I see why Vivek is hesitant. Monte sided with the coach, and the year was a wash. It wasn’t good enough. And if it wasn’t good enough because the coach got his way, why in the world would he be given power?
No, it wasn't good enough but I still like the Kings chances against the top 3 seeds in the West in a 7 game series based on how we played each other this year. We stumbled too much vs. lesser competition and after Kev and Monk (after it was too late to do anything) went down we were DOA. And it isn't going to get any easier because of our division and the West as a whole.

Still I think the correct way to describe this season was as a disappointment and not as a failure.
 
Monty Williams earned $15 million a year for 6 years coming off a COY win.

Start there, and then account for the fact that all 30 NBA teams are going to have a huge dumptruck of cash dropped on them within a year or two.
There's a half decent chance he's going to collect 5 of those years from his couch.
 
Yeah, though part of the value in his contract is incentives that can probably be clawed back
Perhaps it's just pretty wild they let Weaver sign him to that deal if he was on such a tight leash. They probably should have sacked Weaver first, there was certainly nothing going into this season that indicated he had gotten anything right or that Detroit was on the come up.
 
Here's a graph to illustrate my point

People marveled at player contracts in the 1980s and 1990s, and whined bitterly in the 2000s and 2010s. Prepare to adjust your expectations again

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The first time I really was old enough to pay attention to salaries I remember when Rickey Henderson signed the 4 year, 12 million dollar baseball contract and how it seemed to shake everything we know about sports, I think in the NBA Patrick Ewing was making similar numbers and Magic was around $2m per, and now that's just a smidge over the veteran's minimum. Other sports haven't been as kind in the minimum salaries but baseball still seems to dramatically overpay its players for a sport it seems few people enjoy watching any longer.
 
The first time I really was old enough to pay attention to salaries I remember when Rickey Henderson signed the 4 year, 12 million dollar baseball contract and how it seemed to shake everything we know about sports, I think in the NBA Patrick Ewing was making similar numbers and Magic was around $2m per, and now that's just a smidge over the veteran's minimum. Other sports haven't been as kind in the minimum salaries but baseball still seems to dramatically overpay its players for a sport it seems few people enjoy watching any longer.

The MLB and the NBA have similar agreements with their players' unions (~%50 revenue split) and have made similar amounts of revenue over the years (the MLB was ahead from the 90s into the 2010s, but recently the NBA has caught up)

I want to make the point that ratings and viewership are an advanced stat. The scoreboard is revenue.

I'll speculate that the increase of revenue is not due to squeezing the fans more, or globalizing the fan base to grow it (though those are plausible). I think fans have become less important as a revenue source to professional sports over the years compared to brand value; large businesses want to be associated with professional sports more than ever, and corporations control more wealth than ever.
 
I'll speculate that the increase of revenue is not due to squeezing the fans more, or globalizing the fan base to grow it (though those are plausible). I think fans have become less important as a revenue source to professional sports over the years compared to brand value; large businesses want to be associated with professional sports more than ever, and corporations control more wealth than ever.
I don't think the NBA is squeezing fans. I think that if you give deals to 4 companies that all now own separate streaming services that require individual subs, that sucks for us but I don't blame the NBA. Conversely MLS signing an exclusive deal with Apple TV was also horrendous - if slightly more fan friendly to die hards, it's a death blow to casuals. We've reached the point where peak cable TV is now more desirable than what's on the table today. That's not an NBA problem or their fault, it's just the reality of the media landscape.

If League Pass will still carry the games assigned to these other services that's fantastic. If I need Peacock, ESPN, Amazon and League Pass I'm probably set but I don't like it.
 
Control is absolutely part of this, and there was some vague chatter that Brown wanted to keep the core intact last year while Vivek was eager to add a third star and Monte is trying to meet in the middle by acquiring such a player that would actually fit here so we don't have a Westbrook type situation (or what seems to now be a Beal situation in Phoenix).

If there is some kind of playoff ultimatum - there has to be, right? - I imagine the tabling is to see the draft and early free agency results because Brown can use his side of the option as leverage too.

Words can not describe what a joke this team will be if it is Brown opting out of the 4th year and leaving.

Hmmm... I didn't catch that. Interesting. Well, the results were what they were if there is a difference of opinion, one side is currently got far more ammo than the other in any debate on the matter.
 
Hmmm... I didn't catch that. Interesting. Well, the results were what they were if there is a difference of opinion, one side is currently got far more ammo than the other in any debate on the matter.
I don’t know/remember where I saw it but players and Brown wanted to build on last season, I think once most of the likely targets re-signed before the start of FA they quickly re-upped Barnes but that was the only wild card at play. Vivek probably pushed for Beal and has also indicated he still likes LaVine which is a big no thank you from me.
 
I don’t know/remember where I saw it but players and Brown wanted to build on last season, I think once most of the likely targets re-signed before the start of FA they quickly re-upped Barnes but that was the only wild card at play. Vivek probably pushed for Beal and has also indicated he still likes LaVine which is a big no thank you from me.

I can only hope that Vivek is as far away as possible from any basketball related decision-making at this point. He's hired a good GM now he just needs to let him do his job.