Man, what's the world coming to when we can't even beat the Clippers?
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LMM
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I know, seriously!
Muss better establish a rotation and stick with it!
We will never get any sort of rhythm, consistency, or chemistry if we keep shuffling the lineup!
chelle
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I have tried REALLY hard not to blame the coaches when TEAMS lose. However, how can the players expect to be consistent while playing musical chairs on the bench!!
kennadog
Dog On It!
Unfortunately I've seen that during too many games this season. He may get emotional, but when the team is struggling, you can't look like you have zero confidence in them, even if that's how you feel at the moment. Good grief.
EDIT: And a lot of the time he looks like he hasn't got the least glimmer of what to do.
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ezekielbear
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Any team that allows players to come out of a timeout, and fling an 18 foot fadeaway jumper...things are not right.
Be that the coach allowing the player to do so, or, the player just doing it because he wanted to.
That...CAN NOT...happen.
As I said earlier...Tony Parker wouldn't live to see another day if Popovich saw that.
Be that the coach allowing the player to do so, or, the player just doing it because he wanted to.
That...CAN NOT...happen.
As I said earlier...Tony Parker wouldn't live to see another day if Popovich saw that.
Bricklayer
Don't Make Me Use The Bat
I know, seriously!
Muss better establish a rotation and stick with it!
We will never get any sort of rhythm, consistency, or chemistry if we keep shuffling the lineup!
Oh stop that -- that was supposed to be one of the major plusses of getting rid of Adelman remember? No set rotations? Play everybody? Key to victory I tell ya!
That's not fair and it's not accurate, Ezekiel IMHO. The team is only as good as its coach. And right now the coach is making it impossible for them to play like a team. If someone gets hot, he pulls him and sends in someone who isn't within the flow of the game, etc. The team tries to adjust and Musselman makes more "voice-based" substitutions. As I said above, when you see an NBA head coach sitting dejectedly, head in hands, body language screaming defeat, with over 4 minutes left in a game that is still winnable, you have to ask why.
I will criticize the players as much as anyone on this board but they're being put in a position where it's almost impossible for them to come together as a cohesive unit.
DaMan
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Can i say our offense looked good when we went in the post, but instead we started taking jumpers at the end. And I can't blame this whole thing on the coach this team just stinks, we don't have the right players to compet for the playoffs only for the lottery. I don't think RA could even fix this mess.
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creAtivetfh
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at least the Lakers lost.
chelle
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Mussleman is no POP. I honestly do not think that he has ANY control over this team.
I haven't seen him around lately. I hope he hasn't gone to ground for the season.
Boy, this one hurts because IMHO it was truly winnable.
I love this team but I'm really beginning to doubt if anything can turn us around as long as we have the leadership deficit at the coaching slot.
LMM
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Oh stop that -- that was supposed to be one of the major plusses of getting rid of Adelman remember? No set rotations? Play everybody? Key to victory I tell ya!
Don't forget the getting a "defensive-minded coach" part
I was gonna add Adelman to my post but didn't want the thread to be another Muss vs Rick debate.
At this point, it's just an insult to Adelman to be compared to Muss, who really doesn't seem like he knows what he's doing.
most_casual_observer
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The ONLY reason they lack desire is because it is OK to be that way. Someone's earlier allusion to how Popovich would handle this crap is instructive.
Fear the Putin
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why put douby in and play him for 3 minutes when hes not even going to play the rest of the game
what is the point of that?
we still have kenny missing point blank layups, so if he cries, so be it...but dont let him start anymore
Did Artest even play today?
what is the point of that?
we still have kenny missing point blank layups, so if he cries, so be it...but dont let him start anymore
Did Artest even play today?
chelle
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HighFlyingMonkey
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Are we making a run at Oden? That was awful
D-Mass
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By "play" you mean...
ezekielbear
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They are all to blame. This isn't ALL the players fault...or just ALL the coaching staff. Musselman coached the same way in GS.
It's a combo of everything, IMO.
That said, these aren't 12 year old's playing in a rec league. If they can't play with desire, then get some guys that can. These guys take for granted they're in the league...as if they're owed something. You take guys like Ronnie Price, Matt Barnes, Mo Evans, Singelton, etc...and they will lay it on the floor, no matter their coach...every, single, night.
They're hungry. I can't say the same for most of the guys on our roster...which is really sad to me.
ezekielbear
Bench
That was me. lol
People had the same gripe with Adelman running the ship as well tho...about their lack of desire.
kennadog
Dog On It!
Pop has the credentials to back it up. A team has to believe in their coach, then they'll accept him as the leader. You don't get the respect just because the title's on your door. The players seemed to be behind Muss at the beginning, but its hard to keep your confidence in someone who looks so dejected and clueless half the time.
chelle
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I do not see a lack of desire so much as I see a lack of knowing what the heck is going on out there. There is no doubt that these guys KNOW how to play. They just seem ill prepared for the games.
You can have an amazing and beautiful yacht, but if there is no navigator, you're going to be "lost at sea."
You can have an amazing and beautiful yacht, but if there is no navigator, you're going to be "lost at sea."
ezekielbear
Bench
Our roster isn't really tooled for Musselman's type of game either. What, game he has.
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most_casual_observer
G-League
Good call. If we had inserted the 5 bench enders when the team fell asleep, maybe the message would have been received by the starters. One thing is sure, the result wouldn't have been any worse.
D-Mass
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Our problem is that we have a rusted-out ferryboat without a navigator.
ezekielbear
Bench
Bibby took an 18 foot fadeaway, 3 seconds out of a timeout with like 15 on the shot clock.
Musselman and Bibby are both to blame for that...but...I mean...Bibby has to know better then to take that shot.
And if Musselman ran that as a play, then, I should just shoot myself now.
Well, I think you're disrespecting most of the team, which has shown sparks of what they can do IF they're not constantly in a state of flux. That falls on the coach. You can't continue to pull desire out of your arse if you try to play and are taken out of the game when you're doing everything right. After a few times, even the hungriest player would lose heart.
That was ONE play. You don't know what Musselman said during the timeout. Maybe he gave Mike the green light. If he didn't he should have ripped Mike a new one...but he did no such thing. I think Bibby took the shot because he thought he could make it.
But we're not talking about one play or one instance. We're talking about an ever-increasing amount of evidence to support the allegations that Musselman is clueless - both about how to handle THIS team and how to handle himself.
ezekielbear
Bench
I guess we're gonna be stuck to agree to disagree...I just can't agree to that.
You play every down/play/at-bat like it's your last.
I have no problem losing.
I do have a problem when it looks like their is a lack of desire.
Watching us win 19 games a year was okay...because they tried. They sucked, but, they tried (for the most part). I just don't get that sense with this group, and haven't for a while (even with Adelman running the ship during his last season or so).
most_casual_observer
G-League
Management 101 says that you enter a new role with respect, automatically by virtue of your position, it is yours to lose...Muss has done some things early in his tenure to possibly scuttle his opportunity. That is tragic if true.
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