Kings All-Stars

[WhyNotUs?]

I this is a duplicate or in the wrong place, mea culpa.

With the voting open - we have three all-stars, and one should be. (webber, pedja, miller - and bibby). All four will not make the team - likely three won't. So who get's left out? I sure hope not Mike again, but I can't see Pedja and Webb not being there.

Thoughts?

 

[KingKong]

I really hope none of them get voted in. Due to our history of injuries, I want them to particpate in as less games as they need to and focused on the season. That being said, I think CWebb and Miller are strong candidates, Peja is always a possibilty as well, but at this point I really could care less about the All Star game. I think it gets weaker and weaker as the years pass.

 

[Bricklayer]

Peja would not make it if the game was played tommorow -- 21pts 4rebs 44% shooting won't get him in in the stacked West at forward. He'll need to pick it up in the next few months to get in through the coaches.

Webber probably would -- he's fighting perception coming off of this offseason and of course won't be voted in, but the coaches will have paid attention and when healthy he is pretty much of an automatic choice.

Miller would not, except he's a center, and there are so few good ones. He's not having as good a year as last year. But with Shaq gone and Yao having a poor season, Brad can still make it. Problem is that Yao will still get voted in for no other reason than the NBA fans who vote for All-Stars rarely have a remote clue of how anybody is actually playing. Then Brad making it or not as a backup largely depends on whether the coaches decide to include a guy like Amare as a C (since that is where he is playing this year). If they do, then Brad is probably out.

Bibby looked to have a good shot this season with Payton old and in the East, Cassel aging etc. But he's struggled recently. And with Nash getting a big share of the credit in Phoenix you figure that he's almost a shoo-in. Furthermore, those same stupid voters are likely to vote Kobe and TMac in as the guards, just because those are the only names short enough for them to remember (you may have noticed my lack of esteem for the average I.Q. of the NBA voter ). If that happens then its Kobe/TMac, Ray Allen, Nash as automatics and a big scrum for the other spots. Bibby can make it if they decide to take 2 pure PGs -- all of the good guards are in he East this year.

Shoo-ins right now:

Yao (vote)
Duncan
Garnett
TMac (vote)
Kobe
Nowitzki
Nash
Allen
Amare

So that really leaves only 3 spots for other guys, and I guarantee you all 3 won't go to the Kings. Figure either Kirilenko (if healthy) or Boozer might nab one. Rashard Lewis, Zach Randolph, Brand, Marion, Maggette etc. are all stong candidates, and Ginobili, Richardson, Gasol and others are waiting out beyond that. Wouldn't shock me if Webb was the only King to make it, assuming he stays healthy.

 

[WhyNotUs?]

Brick - couldn't have said it better man. Nothing would be sweeter than champagne in June with no all-stars, the best testament to team play. (loved the comment about names short enuff to remember!). West center is indeed a weak vote. The weekend off would be nice - no Kings in, I prolly don't watch, more from apathy than being a homer.

 

[WhyNotUs?]

whoops, my bad, three former all-stars, did not mean they are/should/will be this year.

 

[HndsmCelt]

Maybe we should NOT vote for our guys so they can REST during the break?

 

[Bricklayer]

Maybe we should NOT vote for our guys so they can REST during the break?

I think that's far more of an obsession with fans of this board than with the players.

 

[HndsmCelt]

I think that's far more of an obsession with fans of this board than with the players.

No doubt. The only player I have ever heard complain aobut HAVING to play in the AS game is Malone. And to be honest it probably DID get old in his case.

 

[nAj jAn™]

Bibby will not be an All-Star this year....IMHO

If Pedja, Brad, C-Webb will not be selected in the All-Star, no way Bibby makes it.
Even only one of them is selected and the other didn't, for example, Brad was selected, and the two didn't, Bibby also can't make it.

It takes the three Kings to be selected to make Bibby in the All-Star, because either all three are deserving more than Mike based on their performance this season, and four teammates in the All-Star game would be history.

 

[piksi]

Our players tend to pick up injuries in sleep. We do not need to create extra opportunities by making them play an extra game

 

[ReinadelosReys]

Our players tend to pick up injuries in sleep. We do not need to create extra opportunities by making them play an extra game

What is the world coming to? I find myslef agreeing with Piksi more and more!

 

[fakie]

our guys are not made of glass.

all-star's a performance game anyway.

 

[fakie]

back to WhyNotUS's question:
peja are webber are looking up. i really think at least one of them will make the team. although they are not playing their best right now, their past reputation is still in people's minds and that could contribute to people voting for them.
if they can get some big games in before the ballot closes, i think it's likely we'll have at least a king on the team.

 

[Bricklayer]

Yeah, I think the odds of being hurt in an All-Star game are somewhat less than letting Brad and Tag go out hunting that weekend. Its not worth worrying about. If they can't play 10-20min in a non-contact exhibition game, there is no way they are going to survive daily practices, or even life for that matter.

 

[KingKong]

What is the world coming to? I find myslef agreeing with Piksi more and more!

Be wary. When no one is looking, he'll drop a piksimism on you.

 

[Evenstar]

it's tough to say

allen probably gets back up PG behind nash becuase he is shooting *unbelieveable* and even if he cools off BIG time before the game, he'll still go. bibby might have a shot if he goes on a HOT streak for the next month.

i don't think peja will make it this year because there are a bunch of fowards to choose over him. KG and TD will be starters, dirk will go, amare will go, matrix could go ( if they allow 3 suns, nash is going to make it) AK 47 will go if he's healthy enough, boozer could go if AK doesn't. who knows. so there is plenty of deserving guys to go over peja. webber is a different story. he's definetly been good enough to make the team. i'd LOVE to see him get picked by the coaches, it would be a good story imo, coming back from a potentially career ending injury to make the AS game, but i don't want him to play in it. the kings need that oh 15 minutes, whatever it is, well the kings need those minutes a hell of a lot more then TNT does! hahah i hope he makes it and makes up some BS excuse not to play

out of the kings, i'd say miller has the best chance of going again due to there being no other center in the west really worthy of it. yao is going to get voted in as a starter yet again. he doesn't deserve it. start TD at center IMO, KG at PF, dirk at SF. dirk has been unbelieveable this year so far, he deserves to start.

i'd like for the kings to get one or 2 all stars, and have them sit out for BS reasons. they could show up in their nice suits and diamond stud earrings, be part of the fun, but ride the pine, look pretty and watch the other guys battle it out, cheer, rah rah rah lets go west, and not get hurt the run at the title is more important then playing in the AS game.

GO KINGS!

 

[nAj jAn™]

they should consider Amare to be a center in the ballot 'coz he is way more deserving than Yao in the starting lineup.

My West All-Stars:

C - Amare Stoudamire (he should be qualified for center)
PF - Tim Duncan
SF - Kevin Garnett
SG - Kobe Bryant
PG - T-Mac (i want to see an alley-hoop to himself at the backboard again!)

Bench:
PG - Steve Nash
SG - Manu Ginobili (if he can maintain his numbers)
SF - Andrei Kirilenko
PF - Dirk Nowitzki
C - Yao Ming (the 1 billion of china will vote hor him)
PG - Baron Davis (if he's healthy!)
SG - Ray Allen

 

[SacTownKid]

Peja would not make it if the game was played tommorow -- 21pts 4rebs 44% shooting won't get him in in the stacked West at forward. He'll need to pick it up in the next few months to get in through the coaches.

Webber probably would -- he's fighting perception coming off of this offseason and of course won't be voted in, but the coaches will have paid attention and when healthy he is pretty much of an automatic choice.

Miller would not, except he's a center, and there are so few good ones. He's not having as good a year as last year. But with Shaq gone and Yao having a poor season, Brad can still make it. Problem is that Yao will still get voted in for no other reason than the NBA fans who vote for All-Stars rarely have a remote clue of how anybody is actually playing. Then Brad making it or not as a backup largely depends on whether the coaches decide to include a guy like Amare as a C (since that is where he is playing this year). If they do, then Brad is probably out.

Bibby looked to have a good shot this season with Payton old and in the East, Cassel aging etc. But he's struggled recently. And with Nash getting a big share of the credit in Phoenix you figure that he's almost a shoo-in. Furthermore, those same stupid voters are likely to vote Kobe and TMac in as the guards, just because those are the only names short enough for them to remember (you may have noticed my lack of esteem for the average I.Q. of the NBA voter ). If that happens then its Kobe/TMac, Ray Allen, Nash as automatics and a big scrum for the other spots. Bibby can make it if they decide to take 2 pure PGs -- all of the good guards are in he East this year.

Shoo-ins right now:

Yao (vote)
Duncan
Garnett
TMac (vote)
Kobe
Nowitzki
Nash
Allen
Amare

So that really leaves only 3 spots for other guys, and I guarantee you all 3 won't go to the Kings. Figure either Kirilenko (if healthy) or Boozer might nab one. Rashard Lewis, Zach Randolph, Brand, Marion, Maggette etc. are all stong candidates, and Ginobili, Richardson, Gasol and others are waiting out beyond that. Wouldn't shock me if Webb was the only King to make it, assuming he stays healthy.

I think Brad will most likely make it. Aren't the rules set so you have to pick a center to play center Other than the official vote in. He won't win by populare vote but I think the coachs will bring him in.

 

[VF21]

our guys are not made of glass.

all-star's a performance game anyway.

And Brad Miller got hurt in the "performance game" last year...

 

[Bricklayer]

And Brad Miller got hurt in the "performance game" last year...

freak accident

literally as likely to happen in practice -- not sure I remember anybody else every being seriously hurt in one of those things

 

[bojan_pecanac]

I think Peja and Webber will make it to the all-star team, if Webber stays healthy.

 

[fakie]

i am surprised at how people are being scary-cats about sending our players to the all star game.
1. we don't even know if they will make it.
2. those people play 82 games a year. if they are getting hurt, they are getting hurt. chances of getting hurt during all star is less than any other normal game IMOP. i don't want them to get hurt, at the same time i don't want to over-react over one incident.
3.if injury is really really really that big an issue,then we should not allow the players to do anything after each game or practice. x-ray them head to toe (for any injuries) and make them stay away from heavy machinery, perferable not even driving. brad and tag should be locked up this weekend to make sure they don't go hunting.

why are we making all star game a BAD thing? it's exciting. i'd be might proud of them if any of ours guys makes it.

 

[VF21]

Once bitten, twice shy...

I'd be more proud if it wasn't such a bleeping popularity contest. Vince Carter getting in by votes when he hadn't played a bleeping game?

I'll be very glad when the whole thing is over for another year. I quit enjoying it quite a while back. I'm not that impressed by watching a bunch of hot dog players make dunk after dunk after dunk ad nauseum.

Bricklayer - You said the same thing last year when some of us were saying we wished Brad wouldn't go. "Can't happen," you said. "Nothing to worry about." Remember, Brad wasn't even that enthused about going, but he went...

We're doing real good right now. We don't need anything to upset the apple cart. When you get these guys together with the sole purpose of SHOWING OFF for each other and the millions watching on TV, they take more chances than usual and it sometimes bites them in the posterior. If I recall, there were some other injuries that came out of this totally meaningless exhibition. If they want to show off, let them do it AFTER the year is over!!!

 

[Andriod_KiNg]

I think C-Webb can start in the all star game this year , his rebounding aint so high for a all star PF , but he hast brought alot more to the game than some of the other PF in the west.

 

[Mad D]

I think C-Webb can start in the all star game this year , his rebounding aint so high for a all star PF , but he hast brought alot more to the game than some of the other PF in the west.

you must be thinking of Duncan and Garnett when you say that because there are only 14 players averaging 10+ rebounds and Webber is one of them.

And here are some allstar PF (or potential allstar PFs) who aren't 10+:
Jermaine Oniel (9.6), Boozer (9.6), Amare Stoudamire (8.8)

 

[Evenstar]

any word on if peja is going to shoot in the 3 point shoot out this year???? i know he said last year he wasn't going to do it anymore, i thought he might have changed his mind

i'd like to see the kid from philly who looks like ashton kutcher korver get another shot at it. he's a pretty good from 3 point land. i wonder if allen tries it, he's been unbelieveable from 3