There's an article on Thunder getting the best of the Paul George deal......and history of teams overpaying in draft capital for win-now, that doesn't quite materialize. Too lazy to look it up again....
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There's an article on Thunder getting the best of the Paul George deal......and history of teams overpaying in draft capital for win-now, that doesn't quite materialize. Too lazy to look it up again....
Think would pass on Brandon Ingram - more consistent offensive game, but average defense.....and some injury issues if I recall. As noted keep in the 'coloring book lines' - use the MLE on someone steady - Unless - another team is just giving a fire-sale type thing.
Looking foward to Carter playing, the new 'Tasmainian Devil'.
Looking foward to Carter playing, the new 'Tasmainian Devil'.
I believe the Clippers gave up Shai Gilgeous Alexander (this season's MVP runner-up) and 4 first round picks for Paul George. Plus swap rights in two other drafts maybe? And it ended up only being a rental with no Finals appearance to show for it. It seemed like an overpay at the time even before SGA blew up into a superstar. Now it looks like an all-time blunder.
iowamcnabb
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Okc definitely won the trade but I think it’s worth acknowledging that The Klaw demanded that PG join him as a condition of his signing. Maybe it was a bluff and he never would have signed with Toronto but I’m guessing most GMs would have made that trade. Two 6’7+ wing shot creators with elite defense is a pretty good bet to build around in the modern NBA. I also don’t think a five year run would be fairly characterized as a rental. Lastly, Okc is in a great position moving forward, maybe even the best, but they have zero finals appearances themselves in the 5 years since that trade.
TaxMan
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Yep, Vivek is my neighbor so we talk regularly.
Of course I’m speculating. Virtually everything on this board is speculation.
The term “run it back” is shorthand for bringing the same core back. I love the Carter pick, but if Carter over Davion is the current roster upgrade then yes, I believe/it’s my opinion/I am speculating/I prayed to the NBA gods and have determined in my specific mind that Vivek will not be happy.
iowamcnabb
Hall of Famer
I definitely have mixed feelings on BI. I’ve historically not been a huge fan of his as a 1 or a 1A. He wouldn’t have to be that here so that could look different. The injuries suck. Going from Mr 82 to Mr 55 isn’t super appealing. He doesn’t have the swag that we need in a room full of gamers, readers and chicken breast eaters. With the arrival of the High Friar, maybe we don’t need as much of that. I’m a fan of the go go gadget arms and his work in the midrange. That skill set really diversifies our offense. I don’t love potentially stunting Keegan’s growth but at some point he is just going to need to take it for himself if he is going to reach his ceiling. The talent of all the teams is absurd, we don’t have enough as currently constructed so maybe it’s worth the risk.
Shaqfuey
Bench
I have to keep telling myself it's still early in the process. Time will tell if the joke is on me.
est.1999
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Naw we’re all just being played. “Trade discussions” LOL
Bosnian Diehard
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I get Ingram comes with warts but so does almost every player in the NBA, and the ones that don’t, we have a close to zero percent chance of obtaining them. At some point, you have to take a swing if you wanna hit big. Fox and Sabonis aren’t getting any younger, the time to win is now.
I do get that Ingram is a bit injury prone, although I’ll point out that two of his sub-65 games played seasons were shortened seasons. So he played 62/72 games twice. Also, if he can be healthy for the Playoffs, I think the roster can sustain Ingram missing games here and there during the regular season.
People are hesitant to pay him but who do you wanna acquire that you would pay? All Stars gets paid the max, and Ingram is a 1x All Star who could easily be a several time All Star but he plays in a historically stacked conference. Gotta pay to win man.
I do get that Ingram is a bit injury prone, although I’ll point out that two of his sub-65 games played seasons were shortened seasons. So he played 62/72 games twice. Also, if he can be healthy for the Playoffs, I think the roster can sustain Ingram missing games here and there during the regular season.
People are hesitant to pay him but who do you wanna acquire that you would pay? All Stars gets paid the max, and Ingram is a 1x All Star who could easily be a several time All Star but he plays in a historically stacked conference. Gotta pay to win man.
I would love to have BI on the Kings but maybe I feel the Same way I was about Cousins.
I would like to believe if Cousins was not hurt and was missing parts of a season either by penalty or injury we would of broke our play off slump a few years back.
Now having said that we are a better team as we are right now by far than back then.
if we make the trade I sure hope we have the horses to carry us if he becomes hurt.
I would like to believe if Cousins was not hurt and was missing parts of a season either by penalty or injury we would of broke our play off slump a few years back.
Now having said that we are a better team as we are right now by far than back then.
if we make the trade I sure hope we have the horses to carry us if he becomes hurt.
iowamcnabb
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DLo definitely has a legitimate source but I wish they would just say who we are in trade discussions for instead of the cryptic message. There is nothing to “work on.” Ask your source, confirm and relay the info.
Honestly, I'm in a fairly binary place with this off-season. Monte knows he has to make moves, otherwise, it's a failed off-season. I was a big proponent of running it back last year, with how close we were to the 2nd round and our 2 stars were both hurt in that playoff series. But we stalled out, it didn't work and we just can't try to run it back for a third season.
-Brown extension was huge
-Monk for pennies on the dollar was huge
-Carter is a home-run pick.
But if nothing else major happens, you just can't give this off-season any sort of successful grade.
LPKingsFan
All-Star
Yeah, for better or for worse, the radio guys (Dave is just as bad) don’t see themselves as traditional journalists so they throw this kind of stuff out there. It would be nice if the Bee still had someone like Amick to do some actual reporting, but the next good scoop Jason Anderson gets will be the first as far as I can tell, so this is what we’re left with.
ShastaKingsFan
All-Star
You have to wait till the last half of their show
TaxMan
Starter
The more I know, the more disappointed I will be when it falls through. Of course I love the rumors, but at this point I’m just curious what actually happens….because SOMETHING will be happening (if not today then I would think soon).
Kingster
Hall of Famer
Throwing out the years he played the most (his rookie year) and the least, the average number of games played per year over the five remaining years is 58, or 70% of the season.
Kingz19
Hall of Famer
Plus two of those seasons where he played just over 60 games are the Covid shortened seasons that were only about 70 games. So that’s very good attendance there
coolhandluke
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As is tradition in Sacramento.
Less than 1 in 20 "discussed" trades finally happen. A lot of things have to align at the right time for a trade to be executed. It also doesn't help that Sacramento is typically viewed as a fallback plan and our offers are used to drive up player valuations in FA and trades.
twslam07
All-Star
There it is…Markkanen to the Kings confirmed
Tetsujin
The Game Thread Dude
Jaylen Brown to the Kings???There it is…Markkanen to the Kings confirmed
I agree here. I think the two biggest drawbacks are pushing Murray a bit out of position at the 4 and him missing 25-50% of the games every single season.
On his own he's a really good player but his warts don't get covered up by the rest of our roster very well.
sactowndog
All-Star
Thinking if we pull off a trade Monte’s face will become my sig. if not I’m going with this…
by the way if we get Ingram, Laurie or Wiggins by trading Keegan the peanuts pick goes up as I don’t consider it a win.
Geoff
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I wouldn't...but I admit I'd think about it before saying no.
Huerter is going to have a nice bounceback year, whether it's with us or not. He's valuable in this league and is gonna prove it again next year.
Is that 1/20 an actual number, or is that conjecture?
King-Da-Yah
Starter
Totally agree!
I'm just unsure getting BI without giving up Keegan is within the realm of possibility, unless the Pels hired Vlade as GM and I missed the announcement?
Well, either way we got some excitement around here, and I'd love to eat crow on this one!
Edit: ok considering the fact that BI is an expiring contract I'm gonna allow myself a little hope. Not redacting Vlade catching strays in my post though!
“we had a better deal a couple days ago….” (Vlade probably)
gunks
Hall of Famer
If he bounces back I certainly hope it's with us! For the trade value if nothing else (this is me being optimistic about Carter earning mucho minutes btw).
Hopefully a bench role with less pressure helps Kevin return to K'Von form. It seems like his issues are all mental, but I still like the guy as he always puts in the effort to make an impact in other ways when his shot isn't falling.
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