Kings 1st practice

In my memory there were 3 parts to last season. First there was the start and failure of WP and the start and improvement of the game under Smart. The Second section of season was when things started rolling and coming together players started hitting shots not at a great rate but much closer to normal for them and the NBA. This is when we won the highest % of games last season also and when we played our best defense. It was when we started to have a semblance of a real offense in the half court and while we didn't score huge numbers we were close in every game and it was also the smallest subsection of the season. And Last we had the last couple games before the all star break and the rest of the season were we abandoned defense and insisted on playing players out of position and to cover it up we ran and ran and ran. We were not close in as large a % of games and while we scored a large number of points our offense was ugly and defense nonexistant if the other team wasn't just missing.

I tend to agree. At first after Smart took over, there was a honeymoon period, as usual with new coaches. Then a bit after leading up to the AS break, we were doing some good things. IT was playing very well, the floor was spread and the spacing was much improved, Cuz had room to operate and we were playing off him well, with a fair amount of movement. The off the ball movement was considerably better.

But, it stopped. After the AS break as the season wore on, the spacing went to s***. There was less movement off the ball. Smart stuck Reke in the corner. IT's play subsided a bit. The lineups started getting weird and we went smaller. The rotations, which Smart appeared to have worked out earlier, completely changed from game to game, with guys being pulled early, not being pulled for too long and playing 15-18 mins straight, the defense got worse and our half court offense was stagnant, with many plays ending in a Cuz iso 18ft from the hoop, IT trying to do something 1v1, Reke trying to do something 1v1, or the wrong guys shooting at the end of possessions.

I do think our offensive numbers were misleading. We scored more, as we ran more, and scoring in transition bumped up our FG% a few points, even though it would naturally have gone up a little as we literally were shooting worse than any team in recent NBA history. But even with the fastbreaking and easier buckets our FG% didn't go up that much and we still finished around 20th in the league. My opinion and it's just mine, was that our halfcourt offense just got worse after the AS break, and if it wasn't for us fastbreaking at every opportunity it would have looked a fair amount worse statistically as well. Scoring more did not equate to a better offense. We just ran more.

So it'll be interesting this year. Smart wants to concentrate on defense, whcih is great. But we won't improve much on that end if our halfcourt offense doesn't improve considerably, and we start looking for better shots instead of the first shot. I'd prefer a sound defense, based on going back and teaching the fundamentals, positioning, and having a concentration on running sets in the halfcourt. With a slower pace and more concentration on defense, our defense will lead to enough fastbreaks, as our team did early last decade. We would tighten it up defensively and then break out after forcing turnovers, but we weren't undisciplined. It wasn't just a track meet in both directions which is what it looked like last year. You can be disciplined defensively and have it lead to transition baskets and be exciting, as we were 98-03 or a team like OKC is now, or it can be undisciplined where you're relying on steals/gambling and breaking at every opportunity, and shooting the first good shot, such as Pho or GS this last decade.

As for the triangle, I'm nervous about that. We don't have Winter or PJax teaching it. It's extremely complicated. It's tough for guys who've been in the league for years. Odom and Artest both had difficulties learning it, took them almost a year, and that was with Kobe and Fisher helping, along with PJax. I'm not sure that's the offense to be teaching such a young team. It's based on reads. It's based on taking what the defense gives you. It also requires good shooters and proper spacing. There's a reason most teams don't run it.

Will be interesting.
 
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was a little worried when i saw Smart's training camp scrimmage lineup had T-Rob at the 3, and another scrimmage team had James Johnson at the 4
 
was a little worried when i saw Smart's training camp scrimmage lineup had T-Rob at the 3, and another scrimmage team had James Johnson at the 4

And so why are you worried? JJ played PF his entire career since highschool, through college, and into his first year with the Bulls. So its not like he doesn't know how to play PF. T. Robb has a lot of SF skills, including being a terrific athlete. So say he turns out to be very good at that position. Whats the problem with that? We would have finally shored up the SF position. I'm not saying thats the plan, but I don't see a problem with it if it works.
 
i was worried because it looks like we are gonna be seeing what a lot of us are afraid of. players not having defined rolls and weird lineups. like things like Brook,IT,Thornton on the floor at the same time. yikes
 
And so why are you worried? JJ played PF his entire career since highschool, through college, and into his first year with the Bulls. So its not like he doesn't know how to play PF. T. Robb has a lot of SF skills, including being a terrific athlete. So say he turns out to be very good at that position. Whats the problem with that? We would have finally shored up the SF position. I'm not saying thats the plan, but I don't see a problem with it if it works.


James Johnson can also run the offense as a passer at PF.

I was thinking about this the other day and this is an exact duplicate of last season with the question of what big gets left out in the cold. In order for all 4 bigs to get time one of them has to play the 3. Unless he plans to play Cousins 25 mpg which would be stupid and unlikely for a coach last season that at times seemed determined to stretch young DeMarcus as thinly as possible. If one doesn't you either just paid JT 6 million a year to play spot minutes, drafted a player 5th to play backup role player spot minutes, or have decided to not play the only player out of the 3 next to Cousins capable of playing consistent defense.
 
i was worried because it looks like we are gonna be seeing what a lot of us are afraid of. players not having defined rolls and weird lineups. like things like Brook,IT,Thornton on the floor at the same time. yikes



Which also usually indicates bending to the will of the other team. I just can't wait until the day that this Kings team plays to their strengths and makes the opposing team adjust to them.
 
i was worried because it looks like we are gonna be seeing what a lot of us are afraid of. players not having defined rolls and weird lineups. like things like Brook,IT,Thornton on the floor at the same time. yikes

I don't see how this is relevant to what Bajaden said. Robinson has a lot of SF skills and Johnson has a lot of PF skills. I am happy Smart is taking a look at them at these positions. I would much rather have an open minded coach who is trying to find the best way for this team to win than a stubborn coach who thinks he has it all figured out. It's training camp. It's in our best interest to see the extent of our players skills right now versus mid-season.

Nobody is talking about playing Thomas, Brooks, and Thornton at the same time. Making that assumption from Robinson and Johnson playing positions they are equipped to play is absurd. Johnson and Robinson have skills to play those positions. I can't say the same for your Thomas, Brooks, and Thornton idea.
 
James Johnson can also run the offense as a passer at PF.

I was thinking about this the other day and this is an exact duplicate of last season with the question of what big gets left out in the cold. In order for all 4 bigs to get time one of them has to play the 3. Unless he plans to play Cousins 25 mpg which would be stupid and unlikely for a coach last season that at times seemed determined to stretch young DeMarcus as thinly as possible. If one doesn't you either just paid JT 6 million a year to play spot minutes, drafted a player 5th to play backup role player spot minutes, or have decided to not play the only player out of the 3 next to Cousins capable of playing consistent defense.

If it's me running the team, it's JT at the 4 and Cuz at the 5. Sub out JT earlier and bring in TRob. When Cuz is ready for a breather, bring in JT at the 5, so it's TRob/JT when Cuz rests. Bring Cuz back in for JT, and either give JT a few mins on the bench or move him to the 4 and sub out TRob. Or rest TRob and JT and bring in Chuck, when Cuz comes back.

Basically, unless it's due to foul trouble or injury, either JT or Cuz is always playing the 5. Anything else, TRob or Chuck at the 5, or JJ/Outlaw at the 4 puts us at a disadvantage on defense, and since Smart says defense is the top priority, I see no logical reason to go small at the 4 or the 5. That would directly conflict with his defense is a priority statements.
 
i think it should be mainly DMC, JT, T-Rob getting the minutes are the 4-5, with a little bit of Chuck Hayes mixed in to give some extra rests. but with coach Smart, who knows
 
I like the idea of always having a either DMC or JT playing center. There will be times (foul trouble) and certain matchups where Hayes will defend the 5. Hayes was a good defender in the past (not last year) and lets hope he can bring it here.

Here is the often posted video of the "Chuckwagon" shutting down Amare:

Link for Ipads: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B6f5Uyu6Dv4

KB
 
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i just hate when Hayes is on the floor cause i dont think ive ever seen the guy get a rebound if there is anybody else in the area to compete for it with, and his offense is non existent. but if he could ever actually play defense like in that video again then he will deserve some minutes
 
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