Keon Ellis

The_Jamal said:
And I'm fairly certain if he signs for the QO, that he doesn't have bird rights anymore? And that doesn't transfer to his new team? So he'd be damn hard to trade in December as was reported earlier.

It's pretty clear he's just not going to resign a long-term deal with the Warriors. That seems completely off the table. So from their perspective, do they want to drag this out into the season? Or just be done with it and be able to move on?
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Player needs three years of service but their current contract carries over for Bird calculations. Dubs would have Bird rights but they wouldn’t transfer in a trade.
 
pdxKingsFan said:
Player needs three years of service but their current contract carries over for Bird calculations. Dubs would have Bird rights but they wouldn’t transfer in a trade.
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This is correct, but it's not that the current contract carries over, this is only a feature of one-year contracts. For example, if a player initially signed a one-year deal in 2023, then signed a two-year deal with the same team in 2024, if untraded he would have full Bird rights with his old team in 2026; but if traded in the 2025 season, his new team would enjoy full Bird rights in 2026, not Early Bird rights as the 2-year contract he is currently on would seem to indicate.
 
Capt. Factorial said:
This is correct, but it's not that the current contract carries over, this is only a feature of one-year contracts. For example, if a player initially signed a one-year deal in 2023, then signed a two-year deal with the same team in 2024, if untraded he would have full Bird rights with his old team in 2026; but if traded in the 2025 season, his new team would enjoy full Bird rights in 2026, not Early Bird rights as the 2-year contract he is currently on would seem to indicate.
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I didn't know that.
Google AI (yeah, I know, I know) told me that if a player signed a 1+1 while on Bird rights they would lose them in a trade. Is that accurate?
 
pdxKingsFan said:
I didn't know that.
Google AI (yeah, I know, I know) told me that if a player signed a 1+1 while on Bird rights they would lose them in a trade. Is that accurate?
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Yes.
Let me quote the CBA and clean up a bit of the legalese. (Brackets are me changing the language, ellipsis skips over a minor irrelevance here, parentheses are in original)
A player (other than a Two-Way Player) with a one-year Contract (excluding any Option Year) who would [have Bird Rights at the end of the contract] cannot be traded without the player’s consent ... [if] the player is traded (except if the Contract has an Option for the second year that was exercised prior to the trade), then, for purposes of determining whether the player [qualifies for Bird Rights] the player shall be considered as having changed Teams by means of signing a [free agent contract].
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So the only exception there is if the second year option is exercised before the trade.
 
Capt. Factorial said:
Yes.
Let me quote the CBA and clean up a bit of the legalese. (Brackets are me changing the language, ellipsis skips over a minor irrelevance here, parentheses are in original)

So the only exception there is if the second year option is exercised before the trade.
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Oh I did know about that consent clause.
 
Tetsujin said:
https://twitter.com/x/status/1950278084172919287
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Lets face the facts, the players would probably all welcome an exit at this point lol. Running it back plain and simple would have kept the Kings under the radar, doing anything has the Kings getting killed and grilled out there right now even if it doesn't happen. Can't believe the Kings are now back to MLE older PG's, mid 30's signing, and looking to dump young talent. This couldn't possibly rewind back to 20017-20 could it? Dang.
 
Jdbraver137 said:
The only way this team could possibly get better is by betting on a 22yo Kuminga. And it needs to happen or this roster will just not make any sense.
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I don’t see how he makes any sense with the other shooters around him. There probably needs to be 3-4 more moves to make it all make sense.
 
Keon for Kuminga is such a tank move.

Not saying I think it happened, just saying that if it does, it's a tank move haha.

Kuminga is butt
 
I like bringing in Kuminga or any other starter type 4. This forces Keegan to play his natural position and make a move to free up space in the starting lineup. Almost forgot, not at the expense of Keon.
 
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