Hell no dude.. there isn't a single crazy team in the NBA willing to give Dragic a max..Truth is, he probably isn't even worth 11mpy, but will probably get it. I wouldn't mind if we spent 12mpy on the guy, but he's not a max player by any means. Not to mention he'll be 29 next season. The market is huge for a PG right now, but not huge enough to the point where Dragic gets a max. Even if Dragic asks for a max, I don't think any team in the NBA could even afford to sign him anyways...
JT wants to get traded (and other trade discussion)
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So maybe JT's agent hears that the Kings are shopping his client, and he goes to the Kings and says, you know, we'd prefer he be traded by the trade deadline, if possible. Maybe that's what happened. Maybe not. Truth is, the only thing we really know for sure, is that the Kings have been shopping him, if indeed league rumors are accurate. But hey, who cares? Right! Lets just hammer the hell out of him. Lets call it like it is. He's just a big stupid worthless idiot that has to be shown where the court is, what the ball looks like, and which end of the court has the basket he should shoot at. Excuse me, I have a puppy I need to torture.
Sorry to pick on you in particular, but I fail to understand why something can't be discussed without denigrating the player. Someone criticized his personality for god's sake. Why? Have they ever talked to him? I have! He's a nice guy. His parents are great people. There's nothing wrong with JT's personality. Unfortunately I guess JT is the flavor of the week.
Sorry to pick on you in particular, but I fail to understand why something can't be discussed without denigrating the player. Someone criticized his personality for god's sake. Why? Have they ever talked to him? I have! He's a nice guy. His parents are great people. There's nothing wrong with JT's personality. Unfortunately I guess JT is the flavor of the week.
I think of Dragic as very upper tier talent with some marketable intangibles, the international angle.. and I would have thought he was a "max player" too - but I didn't realize quite how high the max is projected to be in his case. Nevertheless, I would call him a major acquisition, worth opening the checkbook for. Like, how much did Bledsoe get? I think that is the amount Dragic should get.
I'd love to get my hands on Dragic. Looking at his salary at 7.5M, an offer of Nik/DWill's expiring gets us close, would need some filler. But I'm not sure Pho would get a better offer than a guy like Nik plus an expiring like DWill, which should be attractive for them given they're on the books for 60M next year. I just don't see who's going to offer more than that with Dragic's ability to walk a few months from now.
Clear risk to bringing in Dragic but we would own his bird rights and I'd have to think he'd love playing for a coach like Karl and with a dominant big for the first time in his career. And a darkhorse factor in re-signing him would be he's close to Beno who loved Sac, maybe has said a few good things to him about the area.
Then round out our starting 5 with a defensive PF and that's a pretty good foundation for a playoff team.
Fat chance of that happening though. I also can't answer how toxic our FO/owner appear to other players and their agents right now. Seeing how we went about conning Rudy into signing an extension, why would another player risk that?
Clear risk to bringing in Dragic but we would own his bird rights and I'd have to think he'd love playing for a coach like Karl and with a dominant big for the first time in his career. And a darkhorse factor in re-signing him would be he's close to Beno who loved Sac, maybe has said a few good things to him about the area.
Then round out our starting 5 with a defensive PF and that's a pretty good foundation for a playoff team.
Fat chance of that happening though. I also can't answer how toxic our FO/owner appear to other players and their agents right now. Seeing how we went about conning Rudy into signing an extension, why would another player risk that?
I would think the combo of Cuz, Karl and Gay might be enough to inspire a good player to stay once he's here. But you have to get him here somehow, and that's a bit...unrealistic I would think. For a guy like Dragic you'd almost need him to tell other teams he wasn't going to resign and force his way here, because no way we can produce the best package for a guy as lauded as he was last year (that as overblown BTW, but he is good).
If the Afllalo rumor is finally true this time, since we've been talking about him for years with no juice, that may be more realistic. And I think more helpful than people realize. All of a sudden we'd be real solid at the 2/3 with all the minutes accounted for by solid NBA guys.
If the Afllalo rumor is finally true this time, since we've been talking about him for years with no juice, that may be more realistic. And I think more helpful than people realize. All of a sudden we'd be real solid at the 2/3 with all the minutes accounted for by solid NBA guys.
I am worried about Affalo's drop off. It could be due to the system, or it could be as Aaron Bruski suggested due to that persistent knee issue.
Having said that, if we can somehow get him without giving much, you do it. I would not be surprised if We look at JaVale McGee this trade period. Get him for "low currency" and get Karl to get him playing some solid, productive minutes. From memory, Karl got him playing reasonably well (for someone who has no IQ) in Denver when he was there.
Having said that, if we can somehow get him without giving much, you do it. I would not be surprised if We look at JaVale McGee this trade period. Get him for "low currency" and get Karl to get him playing some solid, productive minutes. From memory, Karl got him playing reasonably well (for someone who has no IQ) in Denver when he was there.
I'm not sure what you think Pho will get for Dragic who's an UFA just over 4 months from now and who the league knows Pho will try to move, depending on their meeting with him and his agent this week.
What complicates things for Pho is every playoff team out west, plus NO and OKC, so the top 10 teams aren't looking for PG's(outside maybe Hou), they have theirs already. Back East, the good teams also all have their PG's, Rose/Irving/Lowry/Wall/Teague. After that you get to some real garbage teams who likely a) don't have much to offer for him or b) see no reason to risk trading for a guy who most likely isn't staying on a bad Eastern Conf team. I just have no idea who you think will go after him who also stands a decent chance of retaining him and needs a new PG.
When I consider all the non-playoff teams who'll actually want a new PG(not OKC/NO), I'm not so sure with Karl/Cuz/Rudy we wouldn't be one of the more attractive options for him. Hou has expressed interest but those rumors pertain to this summer in free agency. Then there's LA and NY this summer but as it stands and aside from the big city lights, those teams are years away from being competitive.
Now the Suns may laugh at that offer, but I laugh at their complete shortsidedness in going after IT, running out three PG's in a contract year for Dragic and thinking it'll all work out. Now, their hand is getting forced and in that scenario, offers usually aren't what they would be otherwise.
What complicates things for Pho is every playoff team out west, plus NO and OKC, so the top 10 teams aren't looking for PG's(outside maybe Hou), they have theirs already. Back East, the good teams also all have their PG's, Rose/Irving/Lowry/Wall/Teague. After that you get to some real garbage teams who likely a) don't have much to offer for him or b) see no reason to risk trading for a guy who most likely isn't staying on a bad Eastern Conf team. I just have no idea who you think will go after him who also stands a decent chance of retaining him and needs a new PG.
When I consider all the non-playoff teams who'll actually want a new PG(not OKC/NO), I'm not so sure with Karl/Cuz/Rudy we wouldn't be one of the more attractive options for him. Hou has expressed interest but those rumors pertain to this summer in free agency. Then there's LA and NY this summer but as it stands and aside from the big city lights, those teams are years away from being competitive.
Now the Suns may laugh at that offer, but I laugh at their complete shortsidedness in going after IT, running out three PG's in a contract year for Dragic and thinking it'll all work out. Now, their hand is getting forced and in that scenario, offers usually aren't what they would be otherwise.
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He hasn't even demanded a trade? Pace, my camp would love for snow to fall by the trade deadline so I can go trek some fresh pow ... but .... probably not happening. JT is an okay player, and his lack of perceivable growth since his rookie year has been a calming, stable presence during a tumultuous time in Kings history. His hair does look good this year though.
Yeah like before 2013 when there was no internet or twitter. 
Petrie was a master at running a tight ship and tight lipped front office. Let's not try to rewrite history. The man had some great strengths. When you consider the buffoonery of the Maloofs, it's shocking how little interpersonal drama ever came out of the actual front office. That's called professionalism and class. Petrie had gobs of it.
Petrie was a master at running a tight ship and tight lipped front office. Let's not try to rewrite history. The man had some great strengths. When you consider the buffoonery of the Maloofs, it's shocking how little interpersonal drama ever came out of the actual front office. That's called professionalism and class. Petrie had gobs of it.
