IT = Rumor of 3/24 offer from Pistons

[Hallama]

Interesting that all of a sudden Phoenix is in the mix of things with them having just drafted a PG and having two more Guards which both had breakout seasons. Phoenix would have some assets to trade us so I would not mind a S&T with the Suns.

They have pieces, but why not keep them?

 

[funkykingston]

Interesting that all of a sudden Phoenix is in the mix of things with them having just drafted a PG and having two more Guards which both had breakout seasons. Phoenix would have some assets to trade us so I would not mind a S&T with the Suns.

A signed-and-traded IT and McLemore (and maybe Outlaw?) for a signed-and-traded Bledsoe?

Can't see that really happening but gotta wonder what PHX is thinking. Having a deep backcourt is one thing but Dragic, Bledsoe, Ennis and Thomas are all PGs. Sure Dragic has the size and Bledsoe has the game to make them combo guards but it's not really where they belong. Can't see the fit for IT in the Valley of the Suns.

EDIT: Especially when they just spent $16 million over 3 years on PJ Tucker.

I'm curious to hear what actual offers there are for IT.

 

[sdballer]

They have pieces, but why not keep them?

Theoretically we could match (provided we can clear salary) and they'd lose Thomas. This way they get him and we get assets.

Not suggesting we come away with Bledsoe or dragic. Minor pieces like ennis.

 

[kingsboi]

They have pieces, but why not keep them?

Don't we have a right to sign and trade him? Instead of just letting him go for nothing.

 

[sdballer]

Don't we have a right to sign and trade him? Instead of just letting him go for nothing.

We have a "right" to match. We can only sign and trade him (right now) with his cooperation.

 

[dude12]

Tyler Ennis has not signed his rookie contract yet meaning his rights can be traded immediately as opposed to waiting 30 days before he can be traded if he were to sign. Also I do like the potential of Goodwin and would certainly take Markieff Morris as a PF.....would also look at acquiring Len in package deal where JT is shipped off also. Suns have pieces that could fit that they may move.

Then again, give me Bledsoe please!

 

[VF21]

Tyler Ennis has not signed his rookie contract yet meaning his rights can be traded immediately as opposed to waiting 30 days before he can be traded if he were to sign. Also I do like the potential of Goodwin and would certainly take Markieff Morris as a PF.....would also look at acquiring Len in package deal where JT is shipped off also. Suns have pieces that could fit that they may move.

Then again, give me Bledsoe please!

BUT Phoenix can get IT without trading with us. They might not want to give up Ennis or other assets and they wouldn't need to if our FO isn't willing to match whatever offer they make. And, if we do make a counter offer, Phoenix could easily just bow out. We are nowhere near in control of this situation.

 

[Bricklayer]

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Interesting. Is that his top three choices, or are those the only choices left? Not going to start in Phoenix or Dallas either.

Might end up getting more minutes than the starter in Dallas however, at least if that starter remains Felton.

 

[Hallama]

If PHX wanted to be nice, they might offer a TPE back to the Kings...at the most. But that would be helping out a divisional foe.

I think they'll front load that contract and let the Kings FO squirm. Calculated risk but I think they would prevail.

 

[VF21]

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Might end up getting more minutes than the starter in Dallas however, at least if that starter remains Felton.

Somehow, I just do not see IT's game melding well with Dirk.

 

[sdballer]

BUT Phoenix can get IT without trading with us. They might not want to give up Ennis or other assets and they wouldn't need to if our FO isn't willing to match whatever offer they make. And, if we do make a counter offer, Phoenix could easily just bow out. We are nowhere near in control of this situation.

Not that we're in control but they at least have assets we'd like back. Lakers have nothing.

 

[dude12]

BUT Phoenix can get IT without trading with us. They might not want to give up Ennis or other assets and they wouldn't need to if our FO isn't willing to match whatever offer they make. And, if we do make a counter offer, Phoenix could easily just bow out. We are nowhere near in control of this situation.

They have to plan for the Bledsoe max contract AND if they really want a chance at Love, they do have to have some flexibility.....no way they front load a contract for IT. I think IT would be part scoring guard off bench, part insurance for Bledsoe's potential max deal.

 

[Chubbs]

Such a mis-guided and once again biased argument. If that were the case, we'd let the whole damn team go. Rudy and Cousins were two of the biggest ball-stoppers in the NBA last season. So do we get rid of them too?

Statistically speaking, Isaiah was basically the biggest ball stopper in the league. Didn't he hold the ball an avg of 5.2 seconds per touch while being third in the nba in total time of possession? And we were the worst assist team in the league.

the cousins/gay need more touches argument is bunk. cousins was 3rd in USG% last year. rudy gay was 20th. cousins led all big men in "time of possession" and was 4th among big men in front court touches per game.

You say this like it's a bad thing.

IT detractors making themselves as the victims though?(at least on this board, outside of here IT gets tons of respect from the Kings fanbase).

That speaks very poorly of the fan base then. But not surprising, this is the city that blindly supported terrible basketball for many years. Not surprising they completely overvalue a 6th man at best talent and mistake him for a star

 

[swisshh]

Is IT sure he wants to go to a team with two small guards he can't beat out for a starting spot?

 

[Chicken Chaser]

Is IT sure he wants to go to a team with two small guards he can't beat out for a starting spot?

Talk about irony...

 

[Entity]

BUT Phoenix can get IT without trading with us. They might not want to give up Ennis or other assets and they wouldn't need to if our FO isn't willing to match whatever offer they make. And, if we do make a counter offer, Phoenix could easily just bow out. We are nowhere near in control of this situation.

PHX has plenty of cap space and could Use a PF. We could send two players their way we won't get any of their top players. Could hope for Ennis maybe a s&t of Okafor. Although we could get him without it

 

[Bricklayer]

Somehow, I just do not see IT's game melding well with Dirk.

Oh, they'd probably try to convince themselves he was their new Barea. Bring back Tyson, get the old (emphasis on old) gang back together, and sign IT as their 5 1/2th man.

 

[Bricklayer]

Is IT sure he wants to go to a team with two small guards he can't beat out for a starting spot?

IT wants to get paid. That's important here. By NBA standards he has been working for absolute peanuts thus far. This free agency is his big money stab. This is the one that makes him rich and sets him and his family up for life.

 

[KingsCitizen]

IT wants to get paid. That's important here. By NBA standards he has been working for absolute peanuts thus far. This free agency is his big money stab. This is the one that makes him rich and sets him and his family up for life.

I agree on that. He can sign the big money now and if he can't beat out those 2 guys, cry for a trade.

 

[KingsCitizen]

If IT gets to PHX, is there a chance that we can do S&T of IT+JT for Bledsoe?

Bledsoe and DMC are good friends, I believe, since they were teammate in Kentucky.

 

[JLoss22]

If IT gets to PHX, is there a chance that we can do S&T of IT+JT for Bledsoe?

nope

 

[HereWeBoogie]

damn i don't really see anything good we could realistically get from PHX in a S&T

 

[est.1999]

They are not giving us Bledsoe, guys.

 

[sdballer]

This is where you try to pick up a cheap asset or 2. Young guys (like ennis who is out of the rotation) or draft picks.

Things you can conceivably use or package with our less desirable stuff down the road.

 

[jcwkings]

I think the Phoenix thing is all just part of the process(they are interested so IT listens), Lakers just seem like the team that would need IT the most.

 

[VF21]

Sean Cunningham ‏@News10Sean 8m
Michael Malone on the ball movement focus: "I don't want anyone catching and holding the basketball" #NBAKings

 

[VF21]

Tweets from Isaiah's lady:

‏@KaylaJasmin 1h
Wow! Great visit so far! Feels weird to be so wanted! Lol

 

[jcwkings]

Sean Cunningham ‏@News10Sean 8m
Michael Malone on the ball movement focus: "I don't want anyone catching and holding the basketball" #NBAKings

Does that mean Cousins and Gay are on the block? Standard coach talk, I cannot envision this team going away from Cousins/Gay iso ball, thats what they are, lets just hope they trust their teammates and get others involved.

 

[jcwkings]

Tweets from Isaiah's lady:

‏@KaylaJasmin 1h
Wow! Great visit so far! Feels weird to be so wanted! Lol

He is gone and knowing him he will absolutely make sure to KILL us everytime. You can tell he feels extremely disrespected.

 

[roasthawg]

damn i don't really see anything good we could realistically get from PHX in a S&T

Imo, and I know it's not a fun opinion, but I don't think we're sign and trading IT. Not enough cap space to really play with and whoever inks him knows we're not gonna match.... especially at $8+mil/yr which it looks like he'll get. I think he walks.