I'm mad at Petrie because...

#91
Thanks for the clarification fnordius
the plus minus part of the stat shows that the team overall plays slightly better without Moore than with him. However, I think his system favors offensive "super star" players (even thought it "should" be an adjusted number) due to points scored vs points against (over time). The on-off court numbers "should" reflect how important a player is to a team. It's an interesting system, but I don't see why Bruce Bowen is near the bottom and Ben Wallace is at -3 (unless he's having that bad of a season with CHI of this year). There would be an extremely high correlation between ppg and Roland rating. Premier defenders should have positive impacts on their teams since defense wins championships. Like most rating systems, I think Roland's system favors offense over role players.
 
#92
Thanks for the clarification fnordius
the plus minus part of the stat shows that the team overall plays slightly better without Moore than with him. However, I think his system favors offensive "super star" players (even thought it "should" be an adjusted number) due to points scored vs points against (over time). The on-off court numbers "should" reflect how important a player is to a team. It's an interesting system, but I don't see why Bruce Bowen is near the bottom and Ben Wallace is at -3 (unless he's having that bad of a season with CHI of this year). There would be an extremely high correlation between ppg and Roland rating. Premier defenders should have positive impacts on their teams since defense wins championships. Like most rating systems, I think Roland's system favors offense over role players.
Fair enough. As for me, I think that Bowen (age 36) and Ben Wallace (33) are both in decline, and that's the main thing wrong with their numbers. Two years ago Wallace was at +6.9, despite his lack of offensive game. Bowen's stats have never been very impressive, but if they can come up with a way of measuring the effect of sliding your foot under a guy who's about to land, or giving an opponent a flying kick to the head, or kneeing a little PG in the 'nads, I'm sure that his numbers might yet skyrocket.