I Want Terrence Jones in a Kings Uniform

Vlade4GM

Vlade4GM

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I'm just going to come out and say it, and I don't care how it gets done, I just want it done. It's criminal how underrated he is in this draft, and someone is going to get a steal with him methinks. He may have some motor concerns, but I've seen him play with energy and passion, and all of it was done with him playing a role that's not really who he is. That's real versatility right there, a lot of players are claimed to have versatility, but Jones really has it. He has legit PF size (6'8.25 w/o shoes, solidly built 250) and length (7'2 wngspan, 8'11 reach), and the skills and athleticism to play the 3. He can board, swat, handle, pass, and his post game isn't great but it has been steadily improving since he started at Kentucky IMO. I think he's a good fit on this team at the 3 or 4. I see him as a Lamar Odom, with less fluidity, but more explosiveness.
 
Add me to that list if we can get in on a 3 team deal we can have our cake and eat it too.

HOU:
IN: Superman
Out: Lowry , K-Mart , #14

RAPS:
IN" Lowry
OUT: #8

SACRA:
IN: #8, #14, possibly even Dally

We go home with Henson and Jones.
 
upinsmoke said:
Add me to that list if we can get in on a 3 team deal we can have our cake and eat it too.

HOU:
IN: Superman
Out: Lowry , K-Mart , #14

RAPS:
IN" Lowry
OUT: #8

SACRA:
IN: #8, #14, possibly even Dally

We go home with Henson and Jones.
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Think the Houston plan for Superman involves sending both the #5 and #8 Orlando's way.
 
Bricklayer said:
Think the Houston plan for Superman involves sending both the #5 and #8 Orlando's way.
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I've heard speculation both ways. One thing is for sure! The 5th pick is the important one. You won't get Drummond with the 8th pick. So it really depends on us. If we won't budge off the 5th pick without getting the 8th pick, then maybe they concede and give us the 8th pick. Basicly, this deal doesn't work without us. Its possible that the only reason Toronto is involved, is because we didn't want to move down all the way to the 14th and 16th picks.

I don't know what other offers Orlando has had, but getting Drummond, Kevin Martin, and the 14th pick isn't a bad deal, depending on what you think of Drummond. Lets face it, Orlando is getting dangerously close to getting nothing for Howard.
 
upinsmoke said:
Thats the first I have heard of that scenario but if that's what they intend to do they would need to take Salmons with them otherwise no deal.
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They can't unfortunately. At least as speculated, the deal is they need to shed both Lowry and Daly's contracts in order to have enough capspace to be able to absorb Dwigth's contract by draft night, and they need both the #5 and #8 picks to add to KMart most likely to try to tempt Orlando out of its shell. So they couldn't absorb Salmons, nor even Hayes who I would have had some hope of returning to them otherwise. They would need to shed both salaries, and get both higher picks back in order to make their Dwight play. If that's true it means thehighest pick we could end up with out of the deal would be #14, not #8.
 
Thats my point brick unless they have more to offer than I think GP will look somewhere else to make a deal. Houston can look to acquire some more assets by trading Scola, Patterson and Bud to get more peices to go along with a few picks but the ball is in their court as they say.
 
I like Terrence Jones, but the problem I've always had with him is his position on the court.

I know that he does seem to have moments when he disappears, but he's 'on' more times than he's 'off', and when he's 'on' he's really aggressive on both the offensive and defensive ends, attacking the basket, rebounding, blocking shots, and playing good defense.

But again it comes to positioning.

He's got the size of a PF but the face-up game of a SF and an 'ok' outside shot with a horrifically slow release.
If we draft him to play SF to trot along-side JT & Cousins, sure I'd love the physicality of those 3 positions.
But I think if we drafted him, he'd end up being a PF, and if the choice was between TJ at PF or a different player, I'll probably take the other player.

I want Terrence Jones at SF not at PF, and I don't trust the coaching/FO to work him in at the SF spot.
 
Vlade4GM said:
I'm just going to come out and say it, and I don't care how it gets done, I just want it done. It's criminal how underrated he is in this draft, and someone is going to get a steal with him methinks. He may have some motor concerns, but I've seen him play with energy and passion, and all of it was done with him playing a role that's not really who he is. That's real versatility right there, a lot of players are claimed to have versatility, but Jones really has it. He has legit PF size (6'8.25 w/o shoes, solidly built 250) and length (7'2 wngspan, 8'11 reach), and the skills and athleticism to play the 3. He can board, swat, handle, pass, and his post game isn't great but it has been steadily improving since he started at Kentucky IMO. I think he's a good fit on this team at the 3 or 4. I see him as a Lamar Odom, with less fluidity, but more explosiveness.
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I'm with you on this one. I think that Terrance Jones is a real sleeper in this draft. I like the fact that he has the skills and size to play either SF and PF on both sides of the floor. I think many overlook that he averaged almost 2 blks a game this year playing next to the best shot-blocker in college. I wonder how many more he would have averaged w/o Davis playing next to him? (NO, I am not saying he would have had Davis' numbers).
 
I like t jones as a sf, not a pf. he needs to bulk down so he can regain his quickness and athleticism. he used to be a guy who could dazzle with highlight dunks and blocks and dribbles, and I think having to be a pf lowered his draft stock. if we were picking in the teens and he was there I'd take him and make him lose weight and do cardio
 
Uncia03 said:
I like Terrence Jones, but the problem I've always had with him is his position on the court.

I know that he does seem to have moments when he disappears, but he's 'on' more times than he's 'off', and when he's 'on' he's really aggressive on both the offensive and defensive ends, attacking the basket, rebounding, blocking shots, and playing good defense.

But again it comes to positioning.

He's got the size of a PF but the face-up game of a SF and an 'ok' outside shot with a horrifically slow release.
If we draft him to play SF to trot along-side JT & Cousins, sure I'd love the physicality of those 3 positions.
But I think if we drafted him, he'd end up being a PF, and if the choice was between TJ at PF or a different player, I'll probably take the other player.

I want Terrence Jones at SF not at PF, and I don't trust the coaching/FO to work him in at the SF spot.
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I think that Jones will start off his career playing SF, and slowly move to the PF spot throughout his career (much like KG and SAR). What I like is that I don't see him as a liability at either position (especially on defense). And he ends up playing PF, he certainly isn't undersized for the position.
 
T. Jones at the 3 seems natural to me same goes with Robinson, They both play best out of the face up and rebound well but have very limited post moves. IMO Jones could end up a better player then Robinson too.
 
SacTownKid said:
Which is way overpaying for a Howard rental. One pick should suffice along with the Rox taking on Hedo in the deal.
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That's the market. You don't get to just mark it down because you don't like the price. If they want to take a ride on the Howard train, that's what they have to do -- maybe. It still may not be accepted.
 
I like Jones a lot. The only thing I worry about with him is his lateral quickness. It's more than good enough to guard PFs, but I'm not sure about SFs. Thing is, if he does have the necessary lateral quickness, then he will be a matchup nightmare for the opposition. Size of a PF, with SF skills. I don't think it will be an issue, it's just a small worry. I think he's very talented and could be one of the best players of this class. Not only is he skilled, but he is a very good defender.
 
A lot more PF's have SF games right now, so as long as he can defend PF's (which he absolutely should be able to) I don't see a problem there at all, and I think he's got the potential to have a post game, he seems to know how to use his strength well and he has a nice touch around basket.

As far as his lateral quickness goes, I think it will be improved if he drops about 10 lbs or so, which he should do if he's going to play at the 3. It'll probably never be great, but it'll be good enough (IMO) with his length and strength.
 
Vlade4GM said:
A lot more PF's have SF games right now, so as long as he can defend PF's (which he absolutely should be able to) I don't see a problem there at all, and I think he's got the potential to have a post game, he seems to know how to use his strength well and he has a nice touch around basket.

As far as his lateral quickness goes, I think it will be improved if he drops about 10 lbs or so, which he should do if he's going to play at the 3. It'll probably never be great, but it'll be good enough (IMO) with his length and strength.
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I tend to agree with you, although I'd say you might even be selling him a little short by saying most PFs have SF games. I think Jones is more skilled than most guys who claim to have SF skills at the PF spot.
 
Dime Dropper said:
I tend to agree with you, although I'd say you might even be selling him a little short by saying most PFs have SF games. I think Jones is more skilled than most guys who claim to have SF skills at the PF spot.
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I just meant that there's more PF's in today's game with SF games, so it's not hard to imagine his offensive game working at the 4 in the NBA. He does have good perimeter skills for a SF, I think he has very good playmaking abilities that he didn't get a chance to show off at Kentucky, he's a mismatch at both positions. Even though he got a championship, it's kind of a shame he didn't go to a school that put him in his natural position.
 
Dime Dropper said:
He certainly can dribble, and although his shot is still inconsistent, it's shown improvement. No idea why you think he has a poor handle as it's just wrong.
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He can dribble if no one is guarding him or he has to make one bounce. Move him 15 feet out and he's new Cliff Robinson.
 
Guys like Jones are what makes this draft great. After the top 4 talents (Davis, Beal, Robinson, MKG) you can make a case for at least 8 guys as the 5th best player in the draft. Guys like Jones, Moultrie, Ross, Henson, Zeller, PJIII, Sullinger, Leonard all have a distinct possibility of being available at Houston picks. I'd consider this draft an absolute home run if we walked away with Kyle Lowry, Terrence Jones, and Leonard
 
He's not taking anyone off the dribble in the NBA outside of maybe Boozer or Sullinger. And since he doesn't shoot well Jones lack "SF game".
 
Gilles said:
He's not taking anyone off the dribble in the NBA outside of maybe Boozer or Sullinger. And since he doesn't shoot well Jones lack "SF game".
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You appearantly were watching a different player than everyone else this year. If you were talking about his freshman year, you might have a point, but he greatly improved his handle this season (adding his right hand).
 
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