Isaiah Thomas gets 34 points and nobody mentions it. Evans gets 20 and everyone wants to celebrate his great game against Dallas. I don't get it. Evans cost Sacto the game in the fourth quarter by playing slow ball and getting away from the fast pace that worked in the other three quarters. Please do not eliminate this post like the moderator did on my last one. (Seattle is a great sports town).
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LWP777
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Bricklayer
Don't Make Me Use The Bat
IT got silly hot in this one, but its still an aberrant "one of those games" hot streaks in a 30pt blowout. And he played ****ty defense. It was a big game, but its not duplicable. He will be the only King to get an A-ish grade this time, but you hardly celebrate when you get spanked so badly you are down 30 points for most of the second half and your 5'9" PG takes twice as many shots as anybody else bombing away in the nearly 30 minutes of garbagetime that resulted. Not even a qustion of selfishness or any other consideration. Just of general meaninglessness.
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Kingster
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IT played great. Unfortunately, he's not appreciated on this board. He's too small; he takes away shots from Tyreke and Cousins; he doesn't play defense. All of which is BS. But once you've made up your mind you've made up your mind. He played great at the beginning, middle and end of this game. Unfortunately, everybody else played like crap. A lot of that is on Smart for his strategy of offensively working from the outside for Cousins and Tyreke. IT made more shots in the paint than either one of them; I think more than both combined.
chief bromden
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LOLZ
yes, why would anyone think that garbage-time chucking should deserve its own thread? These are the type of games that made Ricky Davis awesome!
Bricklayer
Don't Make Me Use The Bat
You can do that when you're barely being guarded. Half the time I was guessing who was even supposed to be on him. Which is BTW why I don't necessarily tag this game as selfish for IT. You take what they give you...and they gave us IT. Everybody knows who Reke and Cuz are though. Lots of bodies, lots of eyes.
Just some example stats here, but these are the games won/games lost splits:
Thomas in wins: 22.5min 11.0pts (.528) 3.2ast
Thomas in loss: 22.1min 11.8pts (.417) 2.5ast
The shooting percentage is important not just in a "make shots" sort of way, but also in a take fewer shots sort of way. The losing game numbers are of a guy who is gunning up bad shots and not passing enough. The winning game numbers come out to a guy who's maybe shooting 4-7 or 4-8 on a given night, adding a couple of FTs, and passing more relative to his shots. Tonight was obviously an aberraation, he was open much of the time, and he was hitting everything. You gotta go with that. But counting on that or playing for that is very clearly not the way forward. Just one of those games.
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Heuge
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Mario Chalmers went off on us. Mario Chalmers...
I will give credit when it is do, but this 30 point game doesn't warrant it.
Kingster
Hall of Famer
Cousins and Tyreke playing outside-in against Miami is far from tough. It was a gift. Miami must have been absolutely gleeful with Cousins and Tyreke playing on the outside. If those two power player played inside-out it could be argued that IT would have been even more open on the outside than he was in this game. Just once I wanted to see Tyreke punishing Wade or Allen in the post. Instead, my brief interlude of joy was Thornton of all people punishing Allen for two in the post.
HereWeBoogie
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Maybe cause Isaiah took a ridiculous amount of shots, especially for a PG, in a 30 point loss. AND he gave up a career high and a franchise record of 3s made by freakin Chalmers.
Bricklayer
Don't Make Me Use The Bat
You seem very selective. When I point out that for the entire first half Tyreke was playing across from LeBron or Miller, not the SGs, you agree. Then you come right back here and go right back to repeating that Tyreke should ahve been punishing Allen or Wade inside. When? I just went back and checked the second half boxscore. Not only was Tyrkee at SF for the entire first half, but when he returned int he 3rd quarter, guess what positioon he came in at? You got it: SF. Came in for Salmons with IT and Thornton already on the floor. So again, Tyreke Evans vs. LeBron James. When exactly was he supposed to go about punishing their guards? Smart never let him play vs. the guards.
This is on the coach. Completely cluelss on rotations and proper usage of personnel, completely unable to shorten rotations, he instead tonight threw Reke right back out at SF like he did last year, to such lousy results. In fact I think last year at SF vs. LeBron might have been Reke's worst result of the season. But here we are again. So there was never any chance fro Reke to punish their guards. He may never have played guard.
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People tend to forget that when Cousins or Evans go off, it's a much closer game, and usually a win. When IT goes off, it's usually not close for us. He chases points, we chase losses - last year was pretty clear on that strategy. Pretty solid defensive strategy for opposing teams, if you ask me. Of course having a coach that's willing to smallball his way to a loss when given the opportunity doesn't hurt. Good to see that he knows how our bread is buttered...
That said, IT did score a lot of points last night, and good for him. That's about all we should look into it as.
That said, IT did score a lot of points last night, and good for him. That's about all we should look into it as.
1. I was watching the 49ers so I wouldn't have started an "any questions" thread for a game I didn't see.
2. Your post wasn't eliminated. You started a separate thread to discuss Seattle. It was merged into the ongoing Seattle discussion thread. http://www.kingsfans.com/forums/sho...-comments-post-them-here!&p=949417#post949417
3. Why do people feel they have to bring one player down in order to praise another? I personally think Evans and Isaiah could be an impressive backcourt together and would love to see more of them both on the court at the same time.
Fixed. There are a number of us who actually like Isaiah and what he brings to the mix. People need to quit making blanket comments about "this board". We've got a wide diversity of fans and opinions and just about the only thing I think we all agree on, at least right now, is that the Maloofs suck as owners.
I disagree! The Maloofs suck as people.
I disagree. The Maloofs SUCK.
We don't need all the qualifiers.
Padrino
All-Star
tyreke evans getting 20 meaningful points in a tight overtime loss to the dallas mavericks, shortly after returning from a nagging knee injury, is quite different than isaiah thomas dropping an empty 34 points in an embarrassing blowout loss to the miami heat...
gunks
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PurpleHaze
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Maybe this why nobody mentions it (IT).
I. Thomas: -17 34 pts. FG 13-22 3pt. 6-8 2 RB 3 TO 1 Stl.
M. Chalmers +28 34 pts. FG 12-16 3pt. 10-13 2 RB 2 TO 2 Stl.
I. Thomas: -17 34 pts. FG 13-22 3pt. 6-8 2 RB 3 TO 1 Stl.
M. Chalmers +28 34 pts. FG 12-16 3pt. 10-13 2 RB 2 TO 2 Stl.
kingsnation
All-Star
IT is my third favorite player on the team, after Reke and DFC, so I do love IT and I'm excited he had a career high 34, BUT he did lead the team in FG attempts and as others have stated - he did give up a monster night to Chalmers.
Big Cuz 15
All-Star
considering he was the "PG" i didn't see him orchestrating the offense. he was playing as a 5'9 off guard.
Kingster
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I hope IT takes 30+ shots anytime he's this hot and everybody else is as putrid. That's what good pgs do. But somehow you think that by him taking less shots that Cousins or Tyreke would make more? How? By magic? They sucked. He could have shot zero shots and the Kings would have lost by 50.
Thats a fairly hypocritical opinion from you. I'd argue that cousins and Evans get far more hate on this board than IT and if anything IT gets more "love" than he earns. But really why can't we all just appreciate the fact that with as bad as we suck, any bright moment is a good thing and doesn't need to be diminished by dumping on someone else.
I agree with you that IT gets a lot of love here. I haven't seen much IT hate. There are many of us who don't think he is a starter. Many of us also don't see him as being in the same class of player as Cousins and Tyreke. Equating this to people "hating" him is a huge mischaracterization of most of the comments he receives.
kennadog
Dog On It!
I was saddened that Chalmers set the new record for 3s made on the Kings home court. Pushed Bibby out who had made nine. (I think that was a tie with Antoine Walker). Chalmers beats out Bibby on our home floor? 
Just a sad day on top of the beating we took while Miami basically went into garbage time after the half. 
Just a sad day on top of the beating we took while Miami basically went into garbage time after the half.
kennadog
Dog On It!
I didn't say he did, although he certainly did give up some of those. I thought the whole Kings defense was pretty bad and lacking in energy. I was just sad that a non-King now holds the record on our home court.
UK_King
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I know you didn't. But if you look at some of the previous posts, he was held accountable for every single point Chalmers scored.
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