How do you feel about Petrie now?

[KP]

It doesn't matter what my personal feelings about RFA are, but really GP comes off as a big goat in all this. Less then a year after getting a "flexible" noose around his neck in CW trade, he trades and then untrades Pedja for RFA.

For those keeping scores at home, that was another own-goal by GP.

That^ about covers it...Yep.

 

[JJ22L]

I've respected Geoff Petrie since he got here, i seriously have, i wanted a turned franchise and thats what i got. I was behind the Webb trade to get him here, Vlade, etc etc, hell i was even behind webber leaving because i thought he had a plan. But saying that he comes out smelling like a rose and that he is fault free from this is ridiculous. I know i said this already a couple posts back , but i dont see how people can make excuses. Legally my ***, you just put sacramento on the map as a place a player REFUSED TO GO TO. How embarrasing is that. Take the extra day, see if you can conference with Ron Ron and an agent to make it legal and do it behind closed doors. What does this save, a few things : 1.) peja isnt pissed, because OMG i would be angry and feeling betrayed 2.)the league no longer sees peja as a must trade by the kings because hes a lame duck 3.) there isnt even A QUESTION about the kings now being ashamed because of what they tried to do, because it wouldnt have been brought to question in the first place. Petrie says we arent going for artest, then he does, thats genius and all, but do the HW, and do it correctly.

 

[G_M]

Any attempts to place blame upon anyone other than Ron Artest in this matter is laughable.

 

[Sparky]

Not ture it is only tapmpering if they have a PRIVIATE conversation with a player. A meeting or confrence call with Bird, Ron and Ron's Agent would have been compleetly apropriate AND wise, it's not like Petrie was trading for a rational human being here.

Once again, people on the forum seem to be assuming that "A" leads to "B" which leads to "C". This is Nutbag, remember? He may very well have said at some point "just ship me out of here" and then, when Sacramento made the offer he said, "well, anywhere but there". It's obvious that Artest's refusal was not expected. If my choices are 1: The Maloofs and Petrie acted like rank amateurs and completely failed to do their homework or 2: Prince Charming from Indie managed to once again use his Midas touch to turn gold into turds, I'm betting on Prince Charming.

 

[JJ22L]

Any attempts to place blame upon anyone other than Ron Artest in this matter is laughable.

Saying that Ron isnt to recieve 99% of the blame is laughable...saying that the other 1% of it shouldnt be placed on people assuming he would change is laughable...saying that its all ron ron is ridiculous

Edit: After reading Sparky's post i can see your side of the story, maybe he did lie, in that case thats the 1% exception i'll give, even then though, you gotta know hes unstable.

 

[KP]

Once again, people on the forum seem to be assuming that "A" leads to "B" which leads to "C". This is Nutbag, remember? He may very well have said at some point "just ship me out of here" and then, when Sacramento made the offer he said, "well, anywhere but there". It's obvious that Artest's refusal was not expected. If my choices are 1: The Maloofs and Petrie acted like rank amateurs and completely failed to do their homework or 2: Prince Charming from Indie managed to once again use his Midas touch to turn gold into turds, I'm betting on Prince Charming.

Why not both?

 

[Sparky]

Saying that Ron isnt to recieve 99% of the blame is laughable...saying that the other 1% of it shouldnt be placed on people assuming he would change is laughable...saying that its all ron ron is ridiculous

Edit: After reading Sparky's post i can see your side of the story, maybe he did lie, in that case thats the 1% exception i'll give, even then though, you gotta know hes unstable.

Thanks for considering my point. And you are right, he is unstable. If it were up to me, I would have never even entertained the idea, and I'm no Peja homer.

 

[G_M]

Saying that Ron isnt to recieve 99% of the blame is laughable...saying that the other 1% of it shouldnt be placed on people assuming he would change is laughable...saying that its all ron ron is ridiculous

Edit: After reading Sparky's post i can see your side of the story, maybe he did lie, in that case thats the 1% exception i'll give, even then though, you gotta know hes unstable.

What your saying makes NO sense! The guy is diagnosed as a bipolar. Who knows what he did or did not say. Maybe he didn't takes his meds in between phone conversations. People are all JACKED up wanting Artest to be on the Kings, headcase or not. Then Petrie apparently makes the move that NO ONE that he would make, takes a real chance and the NUTCASE shows his true colors.

 

[JJ22L]

Thanks for considering my point. And you are right, he is unstable. If it were up to me, I would have never even entertained the idea, and I'm no Peja homer.

Word- opinions that make sense get considered, and i COULD see ron lying like that. Damn...i dont even know anymore...for once in my life im completely befuddled about why someone would do something.

 

[JJ22L]

What your saying makes NO sense! The guy is diagnosed as a bipolar. Who knows what he did or did not say. Maybe he didn't takes his meds in between phone conversations. People are all JACKED up wanting Artest to be on the Kings, headcase or not. Then Petrie apparently makes the move that NO ONE that he would make, takes a real chance and the NUTCASE shows his true colors.

Uhh...im pretty sure thats what i said...for some reason i think 99% is alot larger then 1%...least it was when i took statistics.

 

[love_them_kings]

You CANNOT talk to a player on a team about their willingness to play on your team. That's called tampering. Petrie's hands were tied as far as that goes.

I didn't mean talk to him directly.. but there are ways of finding out where players stand on things without talking to them directly. Jim Kozimar (I think it was Jim, I'm bad with voices, could have been Coach T) just said he believes GP prorbably did "check" to see if Artest would be willing, and that GP was probably led to believe Artest would come. He thinks Artest did a complete flip flop, and that wouldn't surprise me.

 

[Sparky]

Why not both?

I don't KNOW that kings management didn't just totally screw this up. However, they have a history of acting in a professional manner (with the main exception of shopping for Phil Jackson while Petrie was in the hospital). Artest has a history of acting UNprofessional. Given how this whole mess has transpired, it looks more like his work than Geoff's.

 

[KP]

I didn't mean talk to him directly.. but there are ways of finding out where players stand on things without talking to them directly. Jim Kozimar (I think it was Jim, I'm bad with voices, could have been Coach T) just said he believes GP prorbably did "check" to see if Artest would be willing, and that GP was probably led to believe Artest would come. He thinks Artest did a complete flip flop, and that wouldn't surprise me.

Part of his job is being able to anylize and anticipate what a player he is trading for will do. When you can't anticipate a nutbag like Ron because he is insane you have to be able to realize that too... it's your fricking job.

 

[love_them_kings]

Part of his job is being able to anylize and anticipate what a player he is trading for will do. When you can't anticipate a nutbag like Ron because he is insane you have to be able to realize that too... it's your fricking job.

I agree...if Artest told me personally on Wednesday he wanted to come here and I wanted to trade for him on Friday, I think I'd doublecheck on Friday just to make sure. The guy is nuts. You don't "assume" you know how someone like that will act.

 

[kennadog]

I agree...if Artest told me personally on Wednesday he wanted to come here and I wanted to trade for him on Friday, I think I'd doublecheck on Friday just to make sure. The guy is nuts. You don't "assume" you know how someone like that will act.

Which means just because you checked two minutes ago, don't think he hasn't changed his mind 20 times since. You absolutely cannot plan for anything, except complete unpredictability. And I think that is what you will get out of Artest on your team.

 

[love_them_kings]

Which means just because you checked two minutes ago, don't think he hasn't changed his mind 20 times since. You absolutely cannot plan for anything, except complete unpredictability. And I think that is what you will get out of Artest on your team.

and therein lies the problem. Don't know if Artest will end up a King or not, but if he does, my feeling is life around here is NOT going to be boring.

 

[SacTownKid]

Well, I don't think anyone can pin much on Petrie for this deal falling through, if indeed it does. Petrie can't call up Ron and say "hey, want to play for us!" Thats called tampering, and it is a serious offense.

 

[HndsmCelt]

Once again, people on the forum seem to be assuming that "A" leads to "B" which leads to "C". This is Nutbag, remember? He may very well have said at some point "just ship me out of here" and then, when Sacramento made the offer he said, "well, anywhere but there". It's obvious that Artest's refusal was not expected. If my choices are 1: The Maloofs and Petrie acted like rank amateurs and completely failed to do their homework or 2: Prince Charming from Indie managed to once again use his Midas touch to turn gold into turds, I'm betting on Prince Charming.

LoL you have a good point it could well be they did have assurances and Ron shot his mouth off or one of his people did.

 

[The Freak]

I don't know anymore. You let go of these developing bench players. (Songaila, Evans, etc...), you trade Webber, Jackson, and almost Peja? I'm speechless.

 

[love_them_kings]

Well, I don't think anyone can pin much on Petrie for this deal falling through, if indeed it does. Petrie can't call up Ron and say "hey, want to play for us!" Thats called tampering, and it is a serious offense.

see the other posts. he couldn't talk to Artest alone directly, but there are ways around it.

That said, Sparky has a good point. Just because Artest says he doesn't want to be here now doesn't mean that GP didn't have reason to believe he'd come. Heck, for all I know he Artest could have been emailing Artest daily with requests to bring him here. Seriously, with Artest you just don't know.

 

[piksi]

with Artest you just don't know.

and You never will

 

[ParniValjak]

What I think of Petrie?????? I think he has gone bonkers

 

[slugking50]

I think the pressure of getting something done has made him lose it. He needs a vacation somewhere to realize hes making a HUGE mistake by getting the Whacko, Nutjob, Mr. Nutters, Etc.....

 

[fishgirl]

I still have a lot of respect for Petrie but I've definitely been upset more than a few times with decisions he's made. But oh well.

 

[chelle]

My opinion of the Maloofs has changed more than my opinion of Petrie.

 

[SoupIsGood]

Came to his senses at the last moment

Scratch that

 

[And1]

My opinion of the Maloofs has changed more than my opinion of Petrie.

I agree. To read that Peja found out about the trade by watching Joe and Gavin on TV made my stomach hurt. With all of the stunts that the Maloof's have pulled in the last year, it makes you realize how non-classy they really have.

 

[DocHolliday]

Thank You Petrie And The Maloofs.

 

[BibityBobtyBoom]

i loved peja in the past, but it was time for him to go. I found my self in the past several games just waiting anxiously for peja to get OUT of the game. now we can have some physical players with him and bonzi, that will be nice.

 

[tradepeja]

petrie is awesome, we got 2 years younger, more versatile 321984723984723984723x more defensive-minded and much better for the future