How do you feel about Petrie now?

What did Peja offer for the future? We've seen his game and his shortcomings. At his best he was a great shooter on a great team. He is not now nor will he ever be an all around basketball player.

I still think Petrie screwed everything up with the parts acquired in the Webber trade, but the next step is to get one of our two young 2 guards (initials KM) and the chunk of change we know as the philly 3.
 
With this newest development, I'd have to say I'm not too thrilled with Petrie right now. Before he rocked the boat with Peja, he should have made some effort to see if Artest would be willing to come here. I realize this is typical in a trade situation, but Artest is a highly volatile player, and it doesn't take a genius to know that he might not want to be here. It also doesn't take a genius to know that if he says he won't show up, he won't. Now he's upset any balance with Peja, and for nothing.

THis is not good.
 
love_them_kings said:
With this newest development, I'd have to say I'm not too thrilled with Petrie right now. Before he rocked the boat with Peja, he should have made some effort to see if Artest would be willing to come here. I realize this is typical in a trade situation, but Artest is a highly volatile player, and it doesn't take a genius to know that he might not want to be here. It also doesn't take a genius to know that if he says he won't show up, he won't. Now he's upset any balance with Peja, and for nothing.

THis is not good.
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Not Petrie's fault. About an hour ago I made a post that this was the right thing to do, even if it falls through, and whatever happens, at that moment GP had to do this- it gave us a great potential shot at becoming a contender again in the future, a huge talent pool to build around. That's still true. GP did everything he should have done. This was out of his hands. Can't blame him. I was antsy before with the talk of "patience", but he proved today that all the bad things I thought about him were wrong. He's willing to take a big risk and doesn't live and die by Peja. I still trust Petrie, but sometimes the cards just don't fall your way. Today was one of those times.
 
He should of made sure Artest was even somewhat ok with it. He didnt do his homework, thusly what did we get out of today ? Nothing...not a damn thing..unless it goes through, which i still think it might. The question is...who in the hell is actually in charge in the kings organization...Petrie, the Maloofs, or Ron artest? I'm sorry, but you dont back out of a trade because a player says so, hes not the boss, whether he goes on strike or not, you lose integrity, especially now that peja knows his head is on the chopping block.
 
I agree with Capt Bill... This is not Petries fault at all.

I was willing to take a chance with Artest but he went all nutty before he even got on the plane to get to us. I actually applaud Petrie and the Maloof's for backing out.

If Artest last 5 more years in this league I will be very surprised.
 
love_them_kings said:
With this newest development, I'd have to say I'm not too thrilled with Petrie right now. Before he rocked the boat with Peja, he should have made some effort to see if Artest would be willing to come here. I realize this is typical in a trade situation, but Artest is a highly volatile player, and it doesn't take a genius to know that he might not want to be here. It also doesn't take a genius to know that if he says he won't show up, he won't. Now he's upset any balance with Peja, and for nothing.

THis is not good.
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You CANNOT talk to a player on a team about their willingness to play on your team. That's called tampering. Petrie's hands were tied as far as that goes.
 
JJ22L said:
He should of made sure Artest was even somewhat ok with it. He didnt do his homework, thusly what did we get out of today ? Nothing...not a damn thing..unless it goes through, which i still think it might. The question is...who in the hell is actually in charge in the kings organization...Petrie, the Maloofs, or Ron artest? I'm sorry, but you dont back out of a trade because a player says so, hes not the boss, whether he goes on strike or not, you lose integrity, especially now that peja knows his head is on the chopping block.
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That's not how it works.

Petrie and the Maloofs did the right thing IMHO by rescinding the trade deal. They didn't have to; Artest is under contract to the Pacers, they have the right to trade him. The fact Artest is so full of himself he didn't even want to consider playing for the Kings is symptomatic of just what a nut job he actually is. I think Petrie showed his mettle by NOT buying into Artest's little drama. Let him sit on the sidelines in Indiana and continue to watch his skills erode. He would have been given a decent shot here and we, the Kings fans, were willing to give him a clean slate and a new start. He spit on that so let some other team jump in and pick up his lunacy.

If any integrity was lost here, it certainly wasn't Petrie, the Maloofs, or the Kings. You would think the Pacers might have had an indication of whether or not Looney Tunes would be willing to grace Sacramento with his august presence.

I say good riddance. Petrie protected the integrity of this franchise by not forcing the issue and letting Artest get even more iairtime for the soap opera that is his (Artest's) life.

I feel sorry for Peja, because although I'm reasonably sure he knew he was on the block, he's been subjected to an emotional roller coaster ride that could not have been pleasant. Who knows how he'll deal with the game tomorrow and the rest of the road trip...
 
VF21 said:
That's not how it works.

Petrie and the Maloofs did the right thing IMHO by rescinding the trade deal. They didn't have to; Artest is under contract to the Pacers, they have the right to trade him. The fact Artest is so full of himself he didn't even want to consider playing for the Kings is symptomatic of just what a nut job he actually is. I think Petrie showed his mettle by NOT buying into Artest's little drama. Let him sit on the sidelines in Indiana and continue to watch his skills erode. He would have been given a decent shot here and we, the Kings fans, were willing to give him a clean slate and a new start. He spit on that so let some other team jump in and pick up his lunacy.

If any integrity was lost here, it certainly wasn't Petrie, the Maloofs, or the Kings. You would think the Pacers might have had an indication of whether or not Looney Tunes would be willing to grace Sacramento with his august presence.

I say good riddance. Petrie protected the integrity of this franchise by not forcing the issue and letting Artest get even more iairtime for the soap opera that is his (Artest's) life.

I feel sorry for Peja, because although I'm reasonably sure he knew he was on the block, he's been subjected to an emotional roller coaster ride that could not have been pleasant. Who knows how he'll deal with the game tomorrow and the rest of the road trip...
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VF21, good points.

This is my 1st post after lurking on this site for a while. What a bunch of drama. I'm a ex Bulls fan coming to Sacramento from Chicago where I grew up and had the privelege of watching Michael Jordan, Pippen, Rodman, etc on their great history setting runs. I've been in Sacramento for 3 years now and love it. The Kings sure have been fun to watch, but this year has been very trying. I like how GP makes the gutsy moves. It sucks that this has happened with Ron not wanting to come here, but it's good that he didn't have more of a negative pressence here than he has had in IN. We still have some time before the 2/23 deadline people. It does suck though to be on a team that tried to trade you though, time will tell how Peja reacts and what the Kings ultimately do.
 
This will go down as the worst decision EVER in Sacramento history up to date. I'm thoroughly disgusted that one statement of dicontent made them reject the deal. Why didn't they reject the Chris Webber trade that brough Chris here then?? This is moronic.
 
On the one hand I am glad to see Petrie still has a pulse. Was beginning to suspect that his heart procedure this summer hadn't gone as well as reported and they had just had him stuffed by a taxidermist to be trotted out for the cameras during games.

On the other hand, this whole thing reeks of indecision and a lack of due diligence. And now its a mess.
 
Bricklayer said:
On the one hand I am glad to see Petrie still has a pulse. Was beginning to suspect that his heart procedure this summer hadn't gone as well as reported and they had just had him stuffed by a taxidermist to be trotted out for the cameras during games.

On the other hand, this whole thing reeks of indecision and a lack of due diligence. And now its a mess.
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Sadly true and as rich a box of chocolates. I liked the Artest trade idea beceause it was SOMETHING... sad to hear no one from the kings even talked to the nutbag yet.
 
The point was that no one from the Kings COULD talk to Artest without breaking the tampering rule. I suspect they relied on info from the Pacers that Artest would be ameniable to a trade. If anything broke down, it was the info chain between Artest to the Pacers and then to the Kings.
 
DocHolliday said:
This will go down as the worst decision EVER in Sacramento history up to date. I'm thoroughly disgusted that one statement of dicontent made them reject the deal. Why didn't they reject the Chris Webber trade that brough Chris here then?? This is moronic.
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I agree. You don't make a trade, and then allow the feeling of the player to dictate a damn thing. Trade made. Deal consummated. Deal with it.

OK, you are shocked, unhappy not your first choice. Get over it, wuss. You are now property of the Sacramento Kings. Report or face the consequences.

The Maloofs really flubbed this one. They have a lot of questions to answer to.
 
VF21 said:
The point was that no one from the Kings COULD talk to Artest without breaking the tampering rule. I suspect they relied on info from the Pacers that Artest would be ameniable to a trade. If anything broke down, it was the info chain between Artest to the Pacers and then to the Kings.
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Maybe Joe and Gavin shouldn't have gone on ESPN like that.
 
VF21 said:
The point was that no one from the Kings COULD talk to Artest without breaking the tampering rule. I suspect they relied on info from the Pacers that Artest would be ameniable to a trade. If anything broke down, it was the info chain between Artest to the Pacers and then to the Kings.
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You are assuming we asked with enough force. Which IMO you just HAVE to do in this situuation before you announce the trade and get egg on your face.
 
Um, excuse me? I'm no more assuming on one side than you are on the other.
 
VF21 said:
Um, excuse me? I'm no more assuming on one side than you are on the other.
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This is of course correct except your assumption doesn't fit the reality we are currently facing. My assumption may be wrong, but it seems a much safer bet.

This stuff doesn't come out of nowhere -- SOMEBODY knew. And we should have before we pulled the trigger.
 
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VF21 said:
The point was that no one from the Kings COULD talk to Artest without breaking the tampering rule. I suspect they relied on info from the Pacers that Artest would be ameniable to a trade. If anything broke down, it was the info chain between Artest to the Pacers and then to the Kings.
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Not ture it is only tapmpering if they have a PRIVIATE conversation with a player. A meeting or confrence call with Bird, Ron and Ron's Agent would have been compleetly apropriate AND wise, it's not like Petrie was trading for a rational human being here.
 
bench_blob said:
I agree. You don't make a trade, and then allow the feeling of the player to dictate a damn thing. Trade made. Deal consummated. Deal with it.

OK, you are shocked, unhappy not your first choice. Get over it, wuss. You are now property of the Sacramento Kings. Report or face the consequences.

The Maloofs really flubbed this one. They have a lot of questions to answer to.
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At least one person gets it.
 
I'm with brick on this one...force the issue, conference with bird and artests agent, artests agent isnt on legal obligation not to ask artest....saying that it isnt remotely petries fault that he didnt do his homework on what artests reaction would be is ridiculous.
 
It doesn't matter what my personal feelings about RFA are, but really GP comes off as a big goat in all this. Less then a year after getting a "flexible" noose around his neck in CW trade, he trades and then untrades Pedja for RFA.

For those keeping scores at home, that was another own-goal by GP.
 
JJ22L said:
I'm with brick on this one...force the issue, conference with bird and artests agent, artests agent isnt on legal obligation not to ask artest....saying that it isnt remotely petries fault that he didnt do his homework on what artests reaction would be is ridiculous.
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Exactly and the fact that it's not up to the player. Geoff never had to retract. The Kings could go to the Pacers RIGHT NOW and say we are back on, let's do it. And Artest would once again be ours, and THAT is one of the things that are killing me right now.
 
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