Horford Opting out?
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I've been on record saying that:
The post was to illustrate that we could sign all of those guys while still retaining Cauley-Stein. You have to admit that Cauley-Stein would be one of the best backup Cs in the league.
- I would match a $4-$6 mil/year offer sheet for Cauley-Stein with the intention of keeping him.
- I would match a $7-$10 mil/year offer sheet for Cauley-Stein with the intention of trading him for value later.
- I would let him walk if he signs for $11+ mil/year
The post was to illustrate that we could sign all of those guys while still retaining Cauley-Stein. You have to admit that Cauley-Stein would be one of the best backup Cs in the league.
Maybe I am wrong about this and I am reading too much into it but to me, this has Kings written all over it.
Who else is in market for a C that can do everything that Horford does but will not be playing huge minutes to take away playing time from other players (read Bagley and Giles).
It is a huge number though!
Who else is in market for a C that can do everything that Horford does but will not be playing huge minutes to take away playing time from other players (read Bagley and Giles).
It is a huge number though!
Honestly, would love to just pay him a much higher AAV to keep it to a 3 year deal. That 4th year is going to get messy once we have to add Bagley to the pay roll after already giving money to Fox/Giles/Buddy/Bogdan.
If we go 4 years, we have to be okay with losing Bogdan or Barnes. The money just doesn't work.
If we go 4 years, we have to be okay with losing Bogdan or Barnes. The money just doesn't work.
Would be very risky. He hasn't shown any signs of slowing down since he's become a "savvy vet" the last handful of years but he's guaranteed to slow down or drop off a cliff at some point during the next 4 years.
I really like Horford but I think I'd spend the money on perimeter players and let our big men develop after picking up a cheaper Dedmon type player.
Giles came along nicely last year. His +/- was -10.1 before the All Star break and +7.7 after. His skills are of the Horford mold.
I really like Horford but I think I'd spend the money on perimeter players and let our big men develop after picking up a cheaper Dedmon type player.
Giles came along nicely last year. His +/- was -10.1 before the All Star break and +7.7 after. His skills are of the Horford mold.
Right, but if:
Fox-Max contract
Horford- $25 mil
Buddy-$17-20+ mil/season
Giles-who knows, but we'll just say $10+ mil at least
Barnes- More than likey 18+mil
Bogdan- 12-15 mil
Somewhere in the range of 110 mil for those guys. And if Bagley becomes a max guy, you're in cap hell with 7 guys on board.
Can't rely on paying the luxury tax to bail you out. We have a window in the next 2-3 years where we can absorb a big FA contract without losing hte young core, but it anything past that gets super dicey once we pay Bagley.
Fox-Max contract
Horford- $25 mil
Buddy-$17-20+ mil/season
Giles-who knows, but we'll just say $10+ mil at least
Barnes- More than likey 18+mil
Bogdan- 12-15 mil
Somewhere in the range of 110 mil for those guys. And if Bagley becomes a max guy, you're in cap hell with 7 guys on board.
Can't rely on paying the luxury tax to bail you out. We have a window in the next 2-3 years where we can absorb a big FA contract without losing hte young core, but it anything past that gets super dicey once we pay Bagley.
Marc Stein: The belief making the front-office rounds tonight is that Al Horford already knows there’s a four-year contract worth in excess of $100 million waiting out there for him June 30 .
So if this is the Kings they better be sure to keep it quiet
So if this is the Kings they better be sure to keep it quiet
Absorb means you want assets, that's a seperate but legitimate thing to consider.
If you fine your wine before then, and as long as Vivek pays the bills later Golden.
But the argument of drawing assets before we get there is a fair consideration.
I don't see many worth much out there, was what we were supposed to do in years past. Times have shifted.
If you fine your wine before then, and as long as Vivek pays the bills later Golden.
But the argument of drawing assets before we get there is a fair consideration.
I don't see many worth much out there, was what we were supposed to do in years past. Times have shifted.
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