Home Opener Attendance

rainmaker

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I just read an article in the Bee saying there are still 2,700 tickets available for the home opener. The Laker game isn't sold out either. Honestly, I'm shocked. I don't expect the Kings to sell out more than a handful of games this years, but I expect a spike in attendance due to the growth, additions, and excitement surrounding this team. I would have thought the Laker game would have sold out a week or two ago. We should have a winning record going into that game on ESPN. Any and every home opener in the NBA should sell out. Opening night, not having seen your team play at Arco for over 5 months, the hype surrounding Tyreke and Cousins, and we still can't sell out? I just hope for the confidence of the team they get to play in front of a packed house th first two home games. Anything else would be dissapointing to say the least.
 
I just read an article in the Bee saying there are still 2,700 tickets available for the home opener. The Laker game isn't sold out either. Honestly, I'm shocked. I don't expect the Kings to sell out more than a handful of games this years, but I expect a spike in attendance due to the growth, additions, and excitement surrounding this team. I would have thought the Laker game would have sold out a week or two ago. We should have a winning record going into that game on ESPN. Any and every home opener in the NBA should sell out. Opening night, not having seen your team play at Arco for over 5 months, the hype surrounding Tyreke and Cousins, and we still can't sell out? I just hope for the confidence of the team they get to play in front of a packed house th first two home games. Anything else would be dissapointing to say the least.

Yeah, this really should not be. My only hesitation is in not knowing exactly what the timing is like on ticket sales generally.

Also have to hope this isn't due to the arena issues. The Sonics got hastened out of Seattle when the people quit showing up because they were worried they were going to be hastened out of Seattle. Self-fulfilling prophecy. At this point the ONLY reason the Maloofs have to stay in Sacto is the fans. No fans = no stay.
 
I will reiterate I am kinda torqued about how they went about selling tix. Wanted in on the KF sale and it fell through. Immediately went to Ticketmaster and all the cheap seats were unavailable (sold out?) so I had to move into the $40 seats (over $100 with fees for two tickets) and then they "release" all these additional cheap seats a couple weeks later. I know they save some for same-day walk ups, and that is fine, but I really would have rather gone to three games for my $100, not one. That would have meant more parking fees and concession sales in their pocket as well......
 
I was told there's a lot less than 2,700 tickets remaining for the home opener. The tickets on Stub Hub are sold by fans and ticket brokers. I was just surprised at how affordable they are.
 
I see a few issues, other than the economy. First, knowledgeable fans are concerned about the arena issue, which dampens excitement. Second, fans don’t typically show up just because a team is expected to be better. They often wait until the team starts racking up some wins, and then they say “Wow, this team is better. We should go.” Third, the out of market people might not realize this but the Kings media / 1140 have been pushing tickets hard over the last two seasons with “This team is better than you think, and you should support the rebuild.” At that time, the team really wasn’t better than you thought, and the product wasn’t great. On some nights yes, but a lot of people got exposed to bad basketball in a 1/2 empty arena. At this point, the team is probably better than the casual fan expects and decent to watch … but I know a lot of people that are responding to the hype with “Blah, blah, blah … you said that last year. I’ll wait and see.” Because the fans here are fanatics they don’t view the overly rosy press that way, but I know a lot of casual fans taking this approach. Thus, it’s important for the team to do well on this road trip and stay close to .500 for as longs as they can.
 
And people wonder why we need to move and get a change of scenery. To me, it seems there are a lot of people that are sick of the rebuilding process and don't want to come out and pay for tickets until a winner is on the field. Those are what you call "bandwagon" fans, and I'm sure once we are a legit playoff team once again, our home games should be packed. Until then, I don't really see the attendence going up all that much as we all expect, I mean you think people would want to come out and watch a exciting, young team, but as I've mentioned, people out there don't have the patience for it, so take it for what its worth.
 
I don't think it's fair to call someone a bandwagon fan just because they refuse to support a poor product. Especially not with the economy doing so poorly for several years now. Going to an NBA game is a luxury, something you do with discretionary income, and a lot of people don't have any discretionary income right now. And many who do are too nervous to spend a couple hundred bucks on a basketball game. Doesn't necessarily make them bandwagon fans.
 
And people wonder why we need to move and get a change of scenery. To me, it seems there are a lot of people that are sick of the rebuilding process and don't want to come out and pay for tickets until a winner is on the field. Those are what you call "bandwagon" fans, and I'm sure once we are a legit playoff team once again, our home games should be packed. Until then, I don't really see the attendence going up all that much as we all expect, I mean you think people would want to come out and watch a exciting, young team, but as I've mentioned, people out there don't have the patience for it, so take it for what its worth.
I think to a certain extent you are right. Obviously there are bandwagon fans in every city, that's simply a part of sports. It will never go away. But what happened to the 17,317 who were responsible for some of the longest sellout streaks in the nba? This team wasn't a playoff team for more than a decade, yet would still sellout. I would have thought the majority of the fans which once packed arco weren't bandwagon fans, and would understand better than most what a rebuild entails. Apparently not.

If the Kings go the same way the Thunder left Seattle, fans will regret not showing up. There seems to be more and more similarities between what happend in seattle and what is happening in sac. If the Kings do leave, in a season or two, they will be on the brink of being a competitive playoff team, if not better, and the fans of the new city will have a good team from the start. Seattle wasn't a playoff team the year they left, or the following, but then last year made the huge jump. Seattle fans didn't show up because of the rumors about an imminent move and the lousy pruduct on the court, but little did they know things were about take a turn in a positive way. If that happens in sac, and fans who once packed the building don't show up because they don't think the product is good enough, then by all means the Maloofs should move. The fans and city officials will regret it once they move and the Kings blow up into a contender within a year or two, and they will have nobody to blame but themselves.

The attendence will speak for itself this year. If the sac area fans want the Kings to stay, they will show up. If not, they're gone. If they don't take the time to realize how this team is turning the corner, and they can't get excited, they don't deserve a team. Educated, diehard fans who love their team no matter what deserve a franchise to root for. Fair weather, bandwagon fans who only show up when their team is contending for the playoffs don't deserve a team. 15 years ago I never would have thought arco would have a problem selling out, especially with such a talented young team. But it fans aren't in tune with what's happening, then they don't really care in the first place, and don't deserve the team or the economic benefit it brings.

I hate the assumption by some that some fans simply aren't excited because they aren't in tune with the team, and that's why they aren't showing up, and that when the team starts winning and there are more positive things said in the press, they will show up again. A fan doesn't sit on their hands, clueless, waiting for someone to tell them how their team is doing and when to go to a game. If you live in sac and aren't aware of the upside of this young team, you're not a kings fan in the first place. You shouldn't have to tell a "Kings fan" to get excited about the team, or even fill them in on what is happening. They should know. Real fans know. Real fans follow. Real fans don't dissapear.
 
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I think to a certain extent you are right. Obviously there are bandwagon fans in every city, that's simply a part of sports. It will never go away. But what happened to the 17,317 who were responsible for some of the longest sellout streaks in the nba? This team wasn't a playoff team for more than a decade, yet would still sellout. I would have thought the majority of the fans which once packed arco weren't bandwagon fans, and would understand better than most what a rebuild entails. Apparently not.

If the Kings go the same way the Thunder left Seattle, fans will regret not showing up. There seems to be more and more similarities between what happend in seattle and what is happening in sac. If the Kings do leave, in a season or two, they will be on the brink of being a competitive playoff team, if not better, and the fans of the new city will have a good team from the start. Seattle wasn't a playoff team the year they left, or the following, but then last year made the huge jump. Seattle fans didn't show up because of the rumors about an imminent move and the lousy pruduct on the court, but little did they know things were about take a turn in a positive way. If that happens in sac, and fans who once packed the building don't show up because they don't think the product is good enough, then by all means the Maloofs should move. The fans and city officials will regret it once they move and the Kings blow up into a contender within a year or two, and they will have nobody to blame but themselves.

The attendence will speak for itself this year. If the sac area fans want the Kings to stay, they will show up. If not, they're gone. If they don't take the time to realize how this team is turning the corner, and they can't get excited, they don't deserve a team. Educated, diehard fans who love their team no matter what deserve a franchise to root for. Fair weather, bandwagon fans who only show up when their team is contending for the playoffs don't deserve a team. 15 years ago I never would have thought arco would have a problem selling out, especially with such a talented young team. But it fans aren't in tune with what's happening, then they don't really care in the first place, and don't deserve the team or the economic benefit it brings.

I hate the assumption by some that some fans simply aren't excited because they aren't in tune with the team, and that's why they aren't showing up, and that when the team starts winning and there are more positive things said in the press, they will show up again. A fan doesn't sit on their hands, clueless, waiting for someone to tell them how their team is doing and when to go to a game. If you live in sac and aren't aware of the upside of this young team, you're not a kings fan in the first place. You shouldn't have to tell a "Kings fan" to get excited about the team, or even fill them in on what is happening. They should know. Real fans know. Real fans follow. Real fans don't dissapear.

I live in Seattle. It's extraordinarily simplistic to say we would have built a stadium and the Sonics would have stayed if they had this years Thunder team. The chances would have increased by a small amount, but for a city still paying for a stadium that was literally demolished; getting something built will be near impossible. In other words, don't worry about the Kings coming to Seattle.
 
I live in Seattle. It's extraordinarily simplistic to say we would have built a stadium and the Sonics would have stayed if they had this years Thunder team. The chances would have increased by a small amount, but for a city still paying for a stadium that was literally demolished; getting something built will be near impossible. In other words, don't worry about the Kings coming to Seattle.

I started this thread to talk about fan attendence. Then it moved into the threat of relocation,and obviously the former effects the latter. I didn't start this thread to bring up the financial ins and outs of a potential relocation. Not even related to the discussion. Hence, your "simplistic" comment.
 
You simply cannot point out the economy enough. California's unemployment rate is higher than the national average and in the top 3 in the nation. Its hard to even say if the product was better that Arco would be selling out more if not almost the entire season. People just simply do not have the money to send on luxury items.

That being said, it does make me happy to see opening night almost sold out. And give the Kings credit, they are marketing the heck out of the team, more than I ever remember before. Heck, they are even flying a bi-plane carrying a banner across the Sacramento skies advertising this game!
 
Listen, I get some people can't afford tickets because of the economy and what not. You can't tell me though people just can't go and buy themselves 10/20/30 dollar tickets and just fill up the upper section and the lower will eventually take care of itself. But, not even that happens. As I've mentioned before, I'm not calling all Sacramento citizens bandwagon fans, it just seems that they don't have the patience, as I've mentioned two or three times previously. People want to come out and spend money on a winner, and this team is not a winner and it hasn't been in a long time. It depends on the person really, some just think same ol same ol Kings this year regardless, some think there is hope but not enough, many think this team can be fun to watch and should have as many fans as possible come out and support them because young teams like the Kings feed off the home crowd noise.
 
Listen, I get some people can't afford tickets because of the economy and what not. You can't tell me though people just can't go and buy themselves 10/20/30 dollar tickets and just fill up the upper section and the lower will eventually take care of itself. But, not even that happens. As I've mentioned before, I'm not calling all Sacramento citizens bandwagon fans, it just seems that they don't have the patience, as I've mentioned two or three times previously. People want to come out and spend money on a winner, and this team is not a winner and it hasn't been in a long time. It depends on the person really, some just think same ol same ol Kings this year regardless, some think there is hope but not enough, many think this team can be fun to watch and should have as many fans as possible come out and support them because young teams like the Kings feed off the home crowd noise.

And I will refer to my post, above:

I will reiterate I am kinda torqued about how they went about selling tix. Wanted in on the KF sale and it fell through. Immediately went to Ticketmaster and all the cheap seats were unavailable (sold out?) so I had to move into the $40 seats (over $100 with fees for two tickets) and then they "release" all these additional cheap seats a couple weeks later. I know they save some for same-day walk ups, and that is fine, but I really would have rather gone to three games for my $100, not one. That would have meant more parking fees and concession sales in their pocket as well......

If I had known more cheap tix would be available, I would have bought those and been able to go to a couple extra games as well.

Yeah, they are marketing, but without knowing that more cheap tix would be available I probably just cut a couple games out this year because I wanted to go to opening night and the cheaper tickets were not available when I bought them.
 
And I will refer to my post, above:



If I had known more cheap tix would be available, I would have bought those and been able to go to a couple extra games as well.

Yeah, they are marketing, but without knowing that more cheap tix would be available I probably just cut a couple games out this year because I wanted to go to opening night and the cheaper tickets were not available when I bought them.

I think they have to wait and release single game tickets so many days before the actual game itself. For example, the Laker game on the 3rd, they were previously only selling tickets to this game as part of a package, but a week or so ago, leauge mandated individual game tickets were released.

I guess if you wait to buy tickets you can get cheaper seats, but then run the risk of the tickets (or no tickets) being available
 
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