Hip Hop heads - talk about it here!

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Padrino said:
lol

dmc is referring to the rapper formerly of the group run dmc (you might have heard of them) ;)

buckcherry and aerosmith are both featured on dmc's new solo album.

but i could see how you could forget aerosmith. i mean, they've hardly been a relevant rock & roll band in the last 30 or so years. :p

haha, I knew the info I picked up on this was sketchy.. silly me. I only heard limited info prior to listening and thought dmc was the name this 'new' band was going by. anyway, the song was kind of interesting just the same.
 
Fillmoe said:
anyone watch My Block: The Bay on mtv2.... yall should check it out!

I watched some of it, didn't get a chance to see the whole thing. Tuned in when Sway was there talking about the "Thizzlamic" nation.
 
metric-live it out album

been enjoying it.. kind of like a 'Killers' with a female vocalist and more cultured lyrics
 
For those interested:

Upcoming shows from Living Legends Crew members. I'm going and the lineup looks amazing.

3.11.06 in San Bernadino

MURS, GROUCH, 3MG & LL @ PAID DUES
Felt (Murs, Slug & Ant), Aesop Rock, Living Legends, El-P, Brother Ali, Cage, Grouch, Blueprint, 3MG, 2Mex, Chingo Bling, DJ Rhettmatic & Mr. Dibbs

Go to the llcrew website for more info and directions.
 
Group: Handsome Boy Modeling School
Album: White People

(very interesting album done with help from Automator)

speaking of Automator

Group: Lovage
Album: Music to Make Love to Your Old Lady By

(Spectacular album and daring album. This amazing group consists of Dan the Automator, Nathaniel Merriweather (Handsome Boy Modeling School), Mike Patton (Faith No More), Jennifer Charles (Elysian Fields) and Kid Koala.)
 
Mr. S£im Citrus said:
Yeah, because when I think of hip-hop, I think of Faith no More...
Have you heard it? Doesn't sound like it.
 
I'm listening to it right now; it does not resemble Faith No More.


EDIT - And, midway through the album, I have also come to the conclusion that it only vaguely resembles hip-hop.
 
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thesanityannex said:
Group: Handsome Boy Modeling School
Album: White People

(very interesting album done with help from Automator)

speaking of Automator

Group: Lovage
Album: Music to Make Love to Your Old Lady By

(Spectacular album and daring album. This amazing group consists of Dan the Automator, Nathaniel Merriweather (Handsome Boy Modeling School), Mike Patton (Faith No More), Jennifer Charles (Elysian Fields) and Kid Koala.)

both these albums were hott.... and im gonna be at that paid dues concert... MURS!
 
Mr. S£im Citrus said:
I'm listening to it right now; it does not resemble Faith No More.


EDIT - And, midway through the album, I have also come to the conclusion that it only vaguely resembles hip-hop.
It doesn't represent it much at all. It was just the album before I mentioned that reminded me of this album that Dan the Automator helped create. Well made and interesting though. Strange feel to the whole album. It reminded me of an old Tom Waits album.
 
Mr. S£im Citrus said:
That's all well and good... but I thought you wanted a "hip-hop" thread...
Dan the Automator. It is also posted in the other thread. Satisfied.

Why not pitch in and share some of your favorites?
 
Because I don't feel like it. And as long as I continue to be on-topic, which I have, I will probably continue to not feel like it.

Good looking out for "Timeless," though, IVote4Replay... IYAM, that was the most worthwhile post in this entire thread; certainly the best recommendation so far...
 
Mr. S£im Citrus said:
Because I don't feel like it. And as long as I continue to be on-topic, which I have, I will probably continue to not feel like it.

Good looking out for "Timeless," though, IVote4Replay... IYAM, that was the most worthwhile post in this entire thread; certainly the best recommendation so far...

lets not be ignorant..... no need to discredit everyone elses recommendations
 
Fillmoe said:
lets not be ignorant..... no need to discredit everyone elses recommendations
Speaking of ignorant, someone needs a vocabulary lesson:

Main Entry: ¹dis·cred·it
Pronunciation: (")dis-'kre-d&t
Function: transitive verb
1 : to refuse to accept as true or accurate : DISBELIEVE
2 : to cause disbelief in the accuracy or authority of
3 : to deprive of good repute : DISGRACE
Now, I know that each generation likes to make up their own definition of words, but at what point did "most worthwhile post" come to mean "all the rest of the posts are bad?" I didn't "discredit" everyone else's recommendations: I simply said that IVote4Replay's recommendation was best... and it was. I might have said that White People and Music to Make Love to Your Old Lady By aren't really hip-hop but, hell, even thesannityannex admitted that.

"Most worthwhile post" means simply that: IVote4Replay's post was the best, and most useful post so far. And, if you want to get technical about it, then just go back through the thread and count: more people have had positive feedback to IVote4Replay's recommendation of Timeless than any other individual post in this thread... Which means that, in terms of sheer numbers, it is, in fact, the most worthwhile post. And the best recommendation so far.

I'm sorry you have a problem with the fact that I didn't go ga-ga over your recommendations... but dislike =/= discredit.
 
Mr. S£im Citrus said:
Speaking of ignorant, someone needs a vocabulary lesson:

Now, I know that each generation likes to make up their own definition of words, but at what point did "most worthwhile post" come to mean "all the rest of the posts are bad?" I didn't "discredit" everyone else's recommendations: I simply said that IVote4Replay's recommendation was best... and it was. I might have said that White People and Music to Make Love to Your Old Lady By aren't really hip-hop but, hell, even thesannityannex admitted that.

"Most worthwhile post" means simply that: IVote4Replay's post was the best, and most useful post so far. And, if you want to get technical about it, then just go back through the thread and count: more people have had positive feedback to IVote4Replay's recommendation of Timeless than any other individual post in this thread... Which means that, in terms of sheer numbers, it is, in fact, the most worthwhile post. And the best recommendation so far.

I'm sorry you have a problem with the fact that I didn't go ga-ga over your recommendations... but dislike =/= discredit.

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=define:discredit&btnG=Google+Search
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disbelieve: reject as false; refuse to accept

and thats exactly what u did... when you went on and said "the most worthwhile post in the entire thread" while in reality you prolly havent listened or heard some of the stuff posted...

and why would i care on how u feel about my recommendations? you really think im here to read your replies and have a sense of "happiness"... cmon fam dont kid yaself... get off that high horse...

by the way white people and music to make love to your lady by is hip hop.... it has hip hop undertones... its a hip hop meets lounge type of jump off....
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Mr. S£im Citrus said:
Speaking of ignorant, someone needs a vocabulary lesson:

Now, I know that each generation likes to make up their own definition of words, but at what point did "most worthwhile post" come to mean "all the rest of the posts are bad?" I didn't "discredit" everyone else's recommendations: I simply said that IVote4Replay's recommendation was best... and it was. I might have said that White People and Music to Make Love to Your Old Lady By aren't really hip-hop but, hell, even thesannityannex admitted that.

"Most worthwhile post" means simply that: IVote4Replay's post was the best, and most useful post so far. And, if you want to get technical about it, then just go back through the thread and count: more people have had positive feedback to IVote4Replay's recommendation of Timeless than any other individual post in this thread... Which means that, in terms of sheer numbers, it is, in fact, the most worthwhile post. And the best recommendation so far.


I'm sorry you have a problem with the fact that I didn't go ga-ga over your recommendations... but dislike =/= discredit.

hehe...while i typically agree with the way you rationalize certain things, i have to say, this is pretty flawed logic. the point of the thread is to recommend specific hip hop to people who may be unaware. its an ongoing discussion of hip hop on the whole, and taste in music is rather subjective, wouldn't you say? i dig sergio mendes, and timeless is a great recommendation, but it ain't a pissing contest to see who can post the "better" hip hop music. i think several of my recommendations in this thread are excellent, but maybe somebody else doesn't. i don't give a **** either way, and it shouldn't matter.
 
Fillmoe said:
[SIZE=-1]by the way white people and music to make love to your lady by is hip hop.... it has hip hop undertones... its a hip hop meets lounge type of jump off.... [/SIZE]

Since there seems to be such an issue with what does and does not constitute hip hop, and such a fondness for music that crosses genre barriers, one could ask why some fought so vehemently for a seperate hip hop thread instead of posting music suggestions in a neutral, all sounds welcome, music thread.

But, that'd be just silly. Wouldn't it?
 
GoGoGadget said:
Since there seems to be such an issue with what does and does not constitute hip hop, and such a fondness for music that crosses genre barriers, one could ask why some fought so vehemently for a seperate hip hop thread instead of posting music suggestions in a neutral, all sounds welcome, music thread.

But, that'd be just silly. Wouldn't it?

:confused:

because that would just be too easy. ;)

the bolded was why i suggested it in the first place. half of what top 40's radio hails as "hip hop" i don't consider to be true to the genre, and half of what i consider to be great "hip hop" isn't even exclusively hip hop, because it borrows from so many other musical styles. music was never supposed to be confined to a genre. its a form of expression, and labels hardly do it justice.
 
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Fillmoe said:
and thats exactly what u did... when you went on and said "the most worthwhile post in the entire thread" while in reality you prolly havent listened or heard some of the stuff posted...
Four things:

1) That isn't remotely what I did. To say that I refused to accept the recommendations implies that I haven't been listening to and evaluating said recommendations, which assumes facts not entered into evidence.

2) As a matter of fact, I have been listening to the recommendations, for most of the night, actually (thanks to the joys of YME, and another pay service that I make use of), which you might have figured out if you'd bothered to read my second post in this thread, so I feel quite justified in my assessment, thank you very much.

3) Everybody on any given message board cares what other people think about their ideas; either that, or they're just "talking to hear themselves talk." You're the one that needs to stop kidding himself.

4) And, furthermore, I stand by my opinion that White People and Music to Make Love to Your Old Lady By aren't hip-hop. This isn't a "one drop of Negro blood" situation; a kinda-sorta hip-hop beat on every fifth track does not a hip-hop album make.
 
Fillmoe said:
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=define%3Adiscredit&btnG=Google+Search
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disbelieve: reject as false; refuse to accept

and thats exactly what u did... when you went on and said "the most worthwhile post in the entire thread" while in reality you prolly havent listened or heard some of the stuff posted...

and why would i care on how u feel about my recommendations? you really think im here to read your replies and have a sense of "happiness"... cmon fam dont kid yaself... get off that high horse...

by the way white people and music to make love to your lady by is hip hop.... it has hip hop undertones... its a hip hop meets lounge type of jump off....
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1. You were out of line to make the "ignorant" comment.

2. Disbelieve is a different word than discredit. The word you originally used was discredit.

3. Prolly is not a word.

4. This whole side-bar thing is stopping now. Slim stated his opinion about one post, which is certainly par for the course around here. You took offense for God knows what reason, but I'm assuming it's because you simply didn't understand what was being said.

I have to agree most heartily with GoGoGadget. You and one or two other members of this forum wanted this thread. Then, when you have it SOLELY FOR HIP HOP, you cannot seem to keep to the topic at hand.

Keep it about the topic. It's not about whether or not you have the vocabulary to fight a war of words with Slim. And it's STILL not about throwing terms like "don't be ignorant" around - especially when you have no idea what you're really talking about.
 
Padrino said:
hehe...while i typically agree with the way you rationalize certain things, i have to say, this is pretty flawed logic...
Not really, because "most worthwhile" is something that can be quantitatively assessed. If more people find Recommendation A to be useful than Recommendation B, then that indicates that Recommendation A is more useful. And, hence, more worthwhile.

If ten people are reading this thread, and eight of them think that Timeless is a good recommendation, and only three of them think that The 95 Drive is a good recommendation, then that means that Timeless was a better recommendation to more people. That's not faulty logic; it's simple bean counting.
 
VF21 said:
I have to agree most heartily with GoGoGadget. You and one or two other members of this forum wanted this thread. Then, when you have it SOLELY FOR HIP HOP, you cannot seem to keep to the topic at hand.

i dont ever remember stating that i wanted this thread... and the thread was never made by me... but im done with this convo... cuz apparentely i fell into a power struggle without even knowing it... yall can continue.. and prolly is not a word... its internet slang because thats where we are.. the internet
 
Mr. S£im Citrus said:


4) And, furthermore, I stand by my opinion that White People and Music to Make Love to Your Old Lady By aren't hip-hop. This isn't a "one drop of Negro blood" situation; a kinda-sorta hip-hop beat on every fifth track does not a hip-hop album make.

study real hip hop... thats all im going to say.....
 
Mr. S£im Citrus said:
Not really, because "most worthwhile" is something that can be quantitatively assessed. If more people find Recommendation A to be useful than Recommendation B, then that indicates that Recommendation A is more useful. And, hence, more worthwhile.

If ten people are reading this thread, and eight of them think that Timeless is a good recommendation, and only three of them think that The 95 Drive is a good recommendation, then that means that Timeless was a better recommendation to more people. That's not faulty logic; it's simple bean counting.

heh

i'll admit, you've got me there. however, its one thing for somebody to echo a recommendation and another thing for somebody to act on a recommendation. i've heard timeless, and i think its a good album. i can agree with the original poster that it is a good recommendation, but until somebody actually goes out of their way to listen to said recommended album, i don't know if i would be willing to say that the recommendation was "worthwhile."

i guess all the recommendations made thus far, and those that will be made in the future, are kind of like draft picks. some are loaded with potential, others aren't, but until somebody else takes a chance on them, its just the words of a few people, who may or may not be biased.

and i'm not trying to stir up some ****. just speaking my mind. hope ya understand.
 
Fillmoe said:
i dont ever remember stating that i wanted this thread... and the thread was never made by me... but im done with this convo... cuz apparentely i fell into a power struggle without even knowing it... yall can continue.. and prolly is not a word... its internet slang because thats where we are.. the internet

If you're going to go the trouble to find a definition of a word and then post it on the forum, then you're going to have to accept criticism when you use a collection of letters that is, in and of itself, NOT a word. Sorry, but what's good for the goose is good for the gander.
 
okay this is childish.... im sorry for the comments.... callin citrus ignorant was out of line.... my apologies....

could we just get back to the focus of the thread.... HIP HOP MUSIC.....

but i will stand by the fact that white people and music to make love to your lady by is hip hop!
 
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