Hibbert vs. Arthur

[BMiller52]

you and "others", ok since you're so "informed" please enlighten us with a name drop for once. who are the players that would be available at the 7-9th pick and why?

Yeah I'd like to hear about this too.

 

[Heuge]

you and "others", ok since you're so "informed" please enlighten us with a name drop for once. who are the players that would be available at the 7-9th pick and why?

Wow, why so hostile...Im reading the same sites you all are...


http://insider.espn.go.com/nbadraft/draft/tracker/rank?draftyear=2007

Here is a one list that has one at 13 and other at 27.

I dont see why I can not like a players game and think that someone is more height and potential, rather then skill and actual influence. Differing opinions are a good thing, allow them.

 

[Vlade4GM]

Wow, why so hostile...Im reading the same sites you all are...


http://insider.espn.go.com/nbadraft/draft/tracker/rank?draftyear=2007

Here is a one list that has one at 13 and other at 27.

I dont see why I can not like a players game and think that someone is more height and potential, rather then skill and actual influence. Differing opinions are a good thing, allow them.

The issue isn't that you're disagreeing with me about specific players, it's that you keep saying there are better players to consider but you mention no names of who would be better and why. It leads me to think you don't really know what you're talking about and you just want to be disagreeable for the sake of it.

 

[Heuge]

The issue isn't that you're disagreeing with me about specific players, it's that you keep saying there are better players to consider but you mention no names of who would be better and why. It leads me to think you don't really know what you're talking about and you just want to be disagreeable for the sake of it.

It may be that I am clearer on what I dont like then what I like. That is a possiblityyou ought to consider as well. Im not being disagreeable for the sake of argument. Hibbert, the only one of whom I see as a viable lottery pick of the two, does not change the game (that, btw, is a specific comment). I see him similar to a Patrick O'brein of last year. Who coincidently was drafted 10th and sent to the D-league.

 

[BMiller52]

It may be that I am clearer on what I dont like then what I like. That is a possiblityyou ought to consider as well. Im not being disagreeable for the sake of argument. Hibbert, the only one of whom I see as a viable lottery pick of the two, does not change the game (that, btw, is a specific comment). I see him similar to a Patrick O'brein of last year. Who coincidently was drafted 10th and sent to the D-league.

The thing is, with the 9TH OR 10TH PICK, you aren't drafting "an impact player who will come in and dominate". You're either drafting for potential, or needs. Both are big men with potential IMO. You're not going to get an Oden or Durant or Wright with the 10th pick.

And we better not pick a wing player. THe only guy I like over these two(where we'll be picking) is maybe Mike Conley and he's a PG.

 

[Heuge]

The thing is, with the 9TH OR 10TH PICK, you aren't drafting "an impact player who will come in and dominate".

While I dont expect them to dominate on the NBA level, I, at least, expect them to be huge factor on their current level.

I, too, would be ticked if we picked another wing player. With that said, drafting a center is a risk, so many busts at that position.

 

[Spike]

After watching a lot of Big East play this year, it seems like Hibbert has a better all-around game, and won't likely be a bust unless he's made the focal point of the team. I see him as a good pick. I truly haven't seen much of Arthur to be able to rationalize a pick on "potential."

 

[Vlade4GM]

It may be that I am clearer on what I dont like then what I like. That is a possiblityyou ought to consider as well. Im not being disagreeable for the sake of argument. Hibbert, the only one of whom I see as a viable lottery pick of the two, does not change the game (that, btw, is a specific comment). I see him similar to a Patrick O'brein of last year. Who coincidently was drafted 10th and sent to the D-league.

That doesn't make any sense, you can't complain about a player being not good enough for our projected 8-10th pick when you don't know how he ranks to other players possibly available at that range. So are you saying that the Kings should just make a player that's better appear out of thin air?

Hibbert has much better length than O'Bryant and he's far less raw on both ends of the court than O'Bryant.

 

[Jerryaki]

for what it's worth, i went to play espn's mock lottery ten times just now, and hibbert came up in the 9 spot once, 14th all the other times. arthur's not even on there.

they have numerous other guys in the 6-12 range, such as spencer hawes, al thornton, yi jianlin, ty lawson, acie law, thaddeus young, and jeff green.

the kings, at number 11 usually, do NOT take hibbert or arthur.

just saying, it's not ludicrous for heuge to think that there are other guys to pick at our projected spot.

as for me, hibbert's good on defense, but doesn't seem very athletic, and he's flat-footed and slow while running. i haven't seen arthur.

 

[Heuge]

the kings, at number 11 usually, do NOT take hibbert or arthur.

Thats absurd, how could they...Dont they know the potential in these two? They must have made up imaginary players...

 

[Bricklayer]

for what it's worth, i went to play espn's mock lottery ten times just now, and hibbert came up in the 9 spot once, 14th all the other times. arthur's not even on there.

they have numerous other guys in the 6-12 range, such as spencer hawes, al thornton, yi jianlin, ty lawson, acie law, thaddeus young, and jeff green.

the kings, at number 11 usually, do NOT take hibbert or arthur.

Well with a scary pack of tweener forwards like Young, Thornton and Green around, why WOULD be draft a player over 6'8"? I mean, as if!

 

[BMiller52]

for what it's worth, i went to play espn's mock lottery ten times just now, and hibbert came up in the 9 spot once, 14th all the other times. arthur's not even on there.

they have numerous other guys in the 6-12 range, such as spencer hawes, al thornton, yi jianlin, ty lawson, acie law, thaddeus young, and jeff green.

the kings, at number 11 usually, do NOT take hibbert or arthur.

just saying, it's not ludicrous for heuge to think that there are other guys to pick at our projected spot.

as for me, hibbert's good on defense, but doesn't seem very athletic, and he's flat-footed and slow while running. i haven't seen arthur.

ESPN's mock draft is garbage and has been for while considering they have a ton of guys who won't even declare, and are missing a few that might.

 

[Spike]

ESPN is garbage and has been for while.

We can just edit your quote as such.

I find them to be the mile-wide, inch-deep of sports reporting.

 

[Jerryaki]

Well with a scary pack of tweener forwards like Young, Thornton and Green around, why WOULD be draft a player over 6'8"? I mean, as if!

haha, obviously you are in tune with the kings' drafting strategies!

i, personally, with absolutely no ethnic bias whatsoever , would prefer to draft yi jianlin, hope that he is a productive player (draftexpress puts him best case as gasol, worst case as frye), and then at the very least reap the benefits of having the revenues come in from the fans from china.