Grades v. Thunder 03/02/10

What hurt us worst?

  • Durant

    Votes: 8 9.9%
  • Westbrook

    Votes: 12 14.8%
  • Our rebounding

    Votes: 54 66.7%
  • Our defense

    Votes: 7 8.6%

  • Total voters
    81
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Bricklayer

Don't Make Me Use The Bat
Theme = The Law of Unintended Consequences

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Casspi ( B- ) -- played better, but minutes were again limited as Donte reemerged and Cisco played well. Was aggressive to start. Dribbled into the paint and dished nicely to Specner for the dunk. Aggressive take to the hoop. Got torched by Westbrook off the dribble to pikc up his second foul and ended up sitting for the rest of th half. In the 3rd drove into the paint., had it knocked away, grabbed it, and laid it in. Got the d-board and did the selfish fullcourt gallup thing again. In the early 4th cut to the hoop and hit by May for the layup. Had good energy and generally competed, at least on offense.
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Blame the Cats -- when the Black Death came to Europe in the mid-14th century, half of the continent perished. Entire families were wiped out, whole communities became ghost towns, and it would take 100 years for the population to recover. Of course they had no idea what caused it, and so they came up with a uniquely disastrous explanation -- it was the cats. Cats had long gotten a bum rap in medieval Europe as the familiars of witches, the devil etc., and been subjected to all kinds of inhumane butchery. So with people dropping like flies, they made a natural scapegoat. The plague of course was carried by rats, infected by fleas. And where go rats, cats are sure to follow -- people saw the cats, and blamed the very creature that could have helped the situation. By exterminating the cats, the rats spread like wildfire and Europe died. And you know, if you are going to be that stupid maybe you just deserve to at some point.

Landry ( B- ) -- got off to the slow start but showed up here and there after half and matched and a little more the wildly overated Jeff Green (this is a 14 and 6 guy people!). Got a layup off a nice Greene feed early, but we were generally having problems getting the ball to him in there against an aggressive featuring 4 payers taller than our PF. Got an offensive board and finish of a May miss before sitting. In the second threw up a wild post move, but did little else. Picked it up a bit in the 3rd after getting off to the shaky start. Missed the post move to start the qaurter, then had Green hit a three over him. But then hit the baseline jumper over Krstic, and got a dunk from Udrih. Somehow missed Beno in the wide open cut when Landry was up top surveying the defense. Hit a jumper late. In the 4th got a layup off a Reke feed. Strong d-board after the Thunder blew a 4 on 1. Got held for the foul at the 2:15 mark and hit both FTs. Got called for the critical offensive foul at the 1:15 mark after we ran the play for him out of the timeout. Grabbed an offensive board off a Hawes missed three at the 35 second mark and laid it in to cut the lead to 4. Finished the night with an ok 17 and 7. But not enough, particularly on the glass on a night when we got crushed, and smallness compared to the Thunder was making it hard to feed him the ball inside. This might have been a B. Kind of right on the border.
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Great Sparrow Campaign -- ah, that wacky Mao Zedong. Think I may come back to him for a second one later as he was a complete idiot and specialized in colossal foulups. This particular one went like this: let's fix our food production problems by having all of our peasants run around and kill all the pests that interfere with food production. One of those pests was decided to be the sparrow, since sparrows will eat grain seeds. So off go millions of peasants, and they run around and kill the sparrows, break their eggs, kill their chicks etc. And in the short term it seems to actually work. Grain production goes up. That is until the locusts begin to swarm. Because you see sparrows eat more insects than they do grain, and once you kill all the birds eating all the insects... By the end of the disaster 30 million people starved to death while the locusts cheerfully chowed down on their fields, and it would take a decade for the ecological imbalance to finally correct itself.

Hawes ( D+ ) -- sigh. Dusted off the old lace panties again for this one. And I have nothing at all against lace panties (except the suspicion they must itch) -- I just don't want to see my 7'0" center wearing them on court (or off court). When your biggest player chucks up more three pointers in a game (4) than he grabs rebounds (3)...let's stay professional about this and just say "unacceptable". Started the game by missing a three on the kick from Reke, but turned the tables and set up Reke from the high elbow on the backdoor cut. Hit a little hook on the break, and then had a dunk from Reke off the drive and dish as he was active early. Repeatedly left Krstic to cover penetration, and got dunked on three straight times for his trouble. Had to force a three against the shotclock and rattled it out. Back in in the 2nd and knocked down an open baseline jumper. Turned it over in the post -- just looked like it dribbled away unforced, and in a high scoring half when we let the Thunder shoot 67% against us and got crushed on the boards, Spencer contributed a grand total of zero. Zilch. Nada. Against a team who starts Nenad Krstic. In the 3rd came up with a nice help block on Durant to trigger a break. Missed another three. Still no rebounding and Krstic with a dunk fest. Missed an ugly gallop against the clock. A dunk from Greene in the 4th as almost all his points on the ngiht came from guys hitting him moving toward the hoop. Missed another three at the 35 second mark because that's the shot we want down the stretch obviously. He had enough moments that the calls for F or whatever are misplaced. But the OKC cheerleaders were probably mocking him and giving him advice on brazilian cut v. thong, so no way this deserves much.
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Prohibition -- great sign eh? If I could have gotten that promise in writing from those, er, "babes", I would have been off to hit the bottle immediately. So, Prohibition in the 1920s. The temperance movement perceptively notes that alcohol consumption leads to people (and in this case the people they were mainly concerned with were men) acting like *******s. So solution = let's just ban the stuff, by amending the Constitution no less. Except of course that when you try to ban anything, and especially anything that popular, you are instantly going to create a giant illegal black market. Violence and corruption ensue at the highest levels. Booze hauling gangs and speakeasys abound. You get war on the streets and make crime syndicates immensely wealthy. Same thing actually as goes on in the drug war with the ultra-violent cartels. And so finally after a decade of blood soaked headlines and public graft, you give up and give in to human nature and repeal the thing.

Udrih ( B- ) -- a quite but efficient roleplayer's game next to Reke with some major defensive deficiencies. Started the game with the side pop on the break from Reke. Missed a three off the dribble. A 24 second violation as he coudln't get the shot up and dumped it off to Landry too late. In the 2nd forced up the too quick foul line pullup after we fell back behind. Out of the timeout came up with the pass to Cisco for the three. Then drove and missed the layup and watched Westbrook race back the other way for the layup. In the third came up with one of his nifty spinning layups. Later had a nice entry pass to Landry. Contiually played Westbrook wrong whenever matched with him, getting up way too tight on him and being no match for the quickness. Was a bad enough problem we frequently slipped of into a zone. Came on in the 4th to give us an extra weapon. Hit the jumper and got fouled. Then got the ball knocked away, but picked it up and hit the turnaround. Turnover trying to get it to Reke along the baseline. Went in and really ripped down a board after our frontline guys were getting whipped. Should have given us a big Beno flex for that one. But then went down the other way and just threw the ball away missing the nearet King by 10 feet. Next time grabbed another d-board and went down and hit Cisco for the three. Rolled in the little jumper off the pick. This would be a B I think if not for the defensive problems.
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Father Matthew "The Temperance Priest" -- and as long as we are talking temperance and its unforeseen effects, lets talk about Ireland's Father Matthew and his Total Abstinence Society. Quite the movment in the first part of the 19th century -- at one point he had over half the Irish population taking his Pledge of total abstinence. Which sounds like a great success, but of course there is a reason the Irish still have the rep for drinking they do 200 years after this event. Not only did it not exactly take in the majority of the Pledgers (the Great Famine of 1845-48 seemed to drive many of them back to the bottle), but the alcohol abstinence had an unforeseen effect when many of the pledgers, not wanting to break their vow, but wanting to get their kicks from something, took up the abuse of ether instead, which is a much more dangerous intoxicant.
 
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Evans ( B+ ) -- another big game for Reke, and once again our strongest player almost wire to wire. And yet its not often that you are going to get 27pts 6rebs and 5ast...and be the third best player on the floor. But that's how Durant and Westbrook were rolling in this one. On the break to start and dished to Beno for the little side pop, then worked with Hawes and took the pass moving to the hoop and got the layup. Called for the carry after he lost control of the dribble. Settled for the bricked three against Sefalisha's set defense. Nice drive into traffic and dish to Hawes for the dunk. Forced a drive into traffic and could not follow. Then took Harden off the dribble and got to the rim but it rolled off,. Nice charging layup off the move to get fouled. Then again turned the corner and slammed into Ibaka to get fouled -- shot 17 FTs tongiht and they were all earned with pain and punishment. Very physical on the drives. Almost turned it over on the closing play of the quarter, but managed to get it to May, who got it to Cisco for the three. Left in to start the second, and quickly drew the foul and hit 1 of 2. Stole the ball from Harden, then went down the other way and torched Harden again. Randomly threw up ajumper and airballed it,. Pushed the break and found Donte in the left lane for what could have been a huge dunk, but he got fouled instead. Got beat backdoor by Durant. Hit the little jumper. Snuck backside to get the steal on Sefalosha. Tried to get us the 2 for 1 at the end of the half with a reverse layup, but would have required huge English to have had any chance, and clanked off. In the 3rd started with the layup on the break from Beno. Stripped on the next drive, then took Sefalosha off the dribble to the left. Drew a foul on the break. Denied on a physical drive. Took it the full length of the court on the break and finished over Sefalosha. Too hard on the pass on the drive and dish to Hawes. Drive and fouled, and again hit 1 of 2 -- FTs were better tonight, but still split too many pairs. Big aggressive drive and +1 sent him crashign to the floor. Missed a turnaround. In the 4th came up with a nifty pass over the top to Landry for the layin. Got fouled, then with the slash but missed the layup. Got picked clean by Durant of all people to start a Thunder fastbreak. But after they blew the resulting 4 on 1 took it hard and got fouled. Drew the foul on Krstic at the 3:00 mark and hit both FTs, but on this night could ot pull off th8e late heroics. Beat by Westbrook back the other way for the layop. Drove back the other way and would not crawl over. Got his next drive blocked. Did a good job cutting off Westbrook on offense, but after Westbrook got the offensive rebound, Reke picked up the foul trying to get the desperation steal. Fouled out menainglessly on the intentional foul with the game over. Strong, physical, star game. But at the end could not kick it that extra gear for the Reke magic.
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Al Qaeda -- while this story has been told any number of times, the fact of the matter is that we largely created them, and I am old enough to remember it. When the Soviets invaded Afghanistan in the late 70's trying to convert it into a communist satellite state, under our Cold War containment doctine we started pumping arms and training to anybody that would resist. eventually this resistance became the mujahadeen. In the 1980s they were celebrated as scrappy heroes in the U.S.. The classic underdog who refused to bow to the mighty Russian bear. But once the Soviets withdrew you had leftover this very effective well armed and trained guerilla fighting force looking for new enemies, and fed by Islamic radicalism within a dozen years they had spawned Al Qaeda and become a threat to the whole world.

Bench


Greene ( C+ ) -- in quickly with Casspi in early foul trouble,and had a nice entry pass to Landry to start. Missed a rebound which Durant nabbed and laid in. Three with his feet set off the kick from Reke. In the second knocked down another three to put us up. Good block on defense keying a semi-break which May finsihed to put us up 5. Called for the travel as he shuffled his feet before his move. Turnover on the baseline drive and dish that got deflected in traffic. Fouled on the big dunk attempt on the break. Beat by his near namesake (Green) for the jumper at the end of the half. In the late 3rd had a drive and dish to Spencer for the dunk. Started the 4th getting called for the charge on the break. Got a d-board we needed to have at the 9 second mark, but we could not come up with the miracle finish. A return to the rotation, and hopefully gave Westphal no excuse to yank him from it again. But effectiveness was just so so. Had a few moments, hit a couple of first half threes to help us get a little lead, but defense wasn't as sharp as its been and had some turnovers.
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The Sack of Constantinople -- Venice had a quandry in the Middle Ages. As Christians they had to view the rising swell of Islam as a huge threat. But in their own backyard they had a parochial squabble with the Byzantine Empire. Basically it was over money. Byzantium controlled the trade routes, Venice wanted to. And they finally figured out a way to do so. Following the Great Schism between Catholicsim, based in Rome, and the Eastern Orthodox Church, based in Constantinople, there was no love lost between the two sides of Christianity, and with a nice bribe and some empty promises from a deposed Byzantine princeling who wanted the throne, it was easy enough to turn the Fourth Crusade, which of course was supposed to be aimed at Muslim lands (Cairo in fact), aside to sack Constantinople instead. Venice got its wish, the Byzantines were ruined and never recovered. But wihtin a few centuries the Venetians paid the price for their betrayal, as the Ottoman Turks overran the weakened Byzantines and repeatedly marched great armies right to the walls of Venice while sweeping the seas clear with their huge fleets. Venice survived, but like the Byzantines they had betrayed, they too were ruined and never recovered.

May ( B+ ) -- had some good moments for us in this one. Missed a layup in the early going. Had an offensive rebound off a missed Reke FT int he 2nd, but missed the layup. Fancy little behind the back flip to Donte for a three to put us back ahead. Then hit the jumper. Hit another jumper to put us up 5. Strong finish +1 inside. Somehow got the play drawn up for him to close the 3rd, and missed the closing jumper. In the 4th blatantly ignored Casspi when he was wide open. Did not get that. Went with an up and under and hit a j. Blocked a shot, which last happened during the Nixon administration, and made up for the earlier gaffe, finding Omri on the cut to the hoop. Strong finish through Collison. In and out on the 20 ft jumper. Terrible entry pass attempt at the 8:00 mark for a turnover. Almost fumbled away a d-board but after much struggle revcovered it. I was going to go B here, remembered this was Sean May we were talking about, and made it a B+. He helped.
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Superbugs -- people in the first world today are spoiled rotten. Antibiotics, anasthesia, immunizatiuon (the pushback against that is the surest sign of the being spoiled) -- we have rapidly forgotten just how often and how easy human beings died throughout history before the last century. Having a large family didn't used to be because you were acutally thinkng of trying to raise 10 kids. It used to be because you knew that 5 of those kids were going to die before they made it to puberty, so you had to keep on having them to make sure anybody made it to adulthood. And a huge part of our modern escape from that biologic reality has been antibiotics. We figured out how to kill the bugs that were killing us. Unfortunately what we did not foresee is that the bugs themselves would eventually figure out how to avoid being killed by the anitbiotics, and that whole new breeds of superbugs would result that we would have no defense against. The process is simplicity itself -- a perfect example of evolution actually. You take a million bugs, subject them to poison, and 999,000 of them die. But 1,000 them are lucky enough to have some level of immunity, some random mutation that made them just a little different. And now with all the others dead, that 1,000 restart the colony. And they are all resistant, and so all their baby bugs are born resistant (they actually just divide, but whatever). And so by the time they grow and grow until there are a million of them again, you now have a million resistant bugs. Forced evolution. And emerging as an enormous problem for us. Maybe all us spoiled kids will one day get to enjoy a return to the bad ole days when every cut could kill you and there was nothing to be done about it.

Cisco ( B ) -- good reserve play again as our rotations shortened toward what they may logically be to finish the season -- Donte/Cisco as 6th and 7th, and JT eventually as the 8th. Spot minutes for the rest. Hit a three to close our scoring in the first quarter but did not get back as Harden almost canned one back the other way at the buzzer (it was a half tic late). Beat by Durant. Found Hawes when he returned for the baseline turnaround. In and out three. Stepped back and knocked down the long jumper to put us back up. Out of the timeout in mid-quarter a three to put us up 4. Got bumped on our last offensive possession of the half, stepped back, and drained a big three. In the third missed a three near the end of the quarter. In the 4th Durant really started lighting him up, but did knock down a big three late from Udrioh. Almost banked in the desperation three at the 3 second mark. despit a lot of late minutes, better early than late, and this as well as Durant having his way holds this grade down a bit.
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Wilsonism -- at the end of the first world war, American President Woodrow Wilson occupied a powerful position -- the most powerful position an American President had ever occupied on the world stage to that point. And he tried to use it to do some good by advocating the idealism of self-determination for all peoples. Every nation, every ethnic group, everybody who wanted to be a nation should be a nation. This was the way to peace in the wake of the devastating world war brought about by a handful of Greta Powers pulling everybody's strings. Of course instead what the great ideal inspired was a century of death and chaos as there is no feud quite like a family feud, and nations states were splintered, small non-viable entities sprang up, insurgencies raged, old grudges were settled with atrocities, and borders were negotiated at gunpoint.
 
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Dorsey ( C+ ) -- came in in the second with o-reb and finish. Scored in the post on the painfully slow series of moves after about 5 seconds in the paint. At the end fo the half played it perfectly, but had Westbrook hit the running, leaning, three over him to close the half. Did ok, but not a tide changer in anyway.
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Treaty of Versailles -- so, as long as we are here, WWI comes to a close, the deathtoll is horrendous. An entire generation of youth is wiped out. And it comes time for the peace. The problem is that the victors are mad. Damn mad after such devastation. So they impose such conditions in the treaty that their enemies will never recover from. They take their land, break one of them up, deny them the right to have significant militaries, and force them to pay a crushing indemnity. That'll teach them! And it did. It taught them to hate. It surrounded them by weak newborn states ready for the conqeuring. And so a mere 20 years after "the war to end all wars" the same enemies were back for revenge, and we got to do the whole damn thing over again. Oops.

Udoka ( INC ) -- just a couple of seconds at the end of the first half. My sympathies are much more wiht Donte because he could be an importnat piece for us going forward. But I like Ime as well, would not even mind him returning next year -- all good teams have defensive roleplayers. But now it was his turn to have wildly varying minutes.
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Australia & the Cane Toads -- and this could almost be Australia and the almsot anything, because they have a number of messed up ecological problems down under stemming from the continent being so isolated until we arrived. In any case, this one worked like this: Europeans arrive. They introduce the non-native species sugarcane. Beetles start eating the sugarcane. So Europeans introduce the non-native species the cane toad to eat the beetles. The problem is that the cane toads are posionous, and nothing in Australia has evolved the ability to handle the poison, or th instincts to avoid eating the toads. So now the cane toads start spreading, and not only is there nothing to stop them, but everything that eats them dies. The entire ecosystem crashes. And this has happened there with rabbits, with feral cats, with camels with cattle...its a mess.

McGuire ( INC ) -- in for our final defensive possession of the half to
guard Durant, who just swung the ball over to Green. Back in near the
end of the third and had Durant hit a three in his face. Did a better job on the Thunder's last chance of the quarter, challenging the side junmper and forcing the miss.
 
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with JT down... and the team needing him more than ever... Hawes failed

Hawes plays like a sissy... HE IS PURE FAIL

21 years old or not.... Hawes is an embarrassment... unacceptable... who was guarding him tonight?
 
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Hawes played 31 minutes and grabbed 3 rebounds. He deserves an F.

By your logic,
Whoever guarded Durant deserves an F.
Whoever guarded Westbrook deserves an F.
Did Hawes guard those guys?
If he didn't, then what happened when they got past their man?
Hawes had to defend the paint.
And what happens if one of those guys actually misses a shot?
Hawes is out of position to get the rebound.
It's not all on Hawes by a longshot.

To me, it's amazing the Kings got this close. OKC has the best young talent in the league. On pure talent, leaving aside the experience factor, they have the most talented trio in the entire league. It's no shame to come within a whisker on their home floor from beating them.
 
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with JT down... and the team needing him more than ever... Hawes failed

Hawes plays like a sissy... HE IS PURE FAIL

21 years old or not.... Hawes is an embarrassment... unacceptable... who was guarding him tonight?

I am really getting sick and tired of your hating on Hawes. Henceforth, I shall ignore your posts. You obviously don't know the meaning of the word "impartiality". Hell I bet the reason why Webber blew his knee was because of Hawes.

Rebounding is not one man's job, it's a team effort. Hawes deserves an F in rebounding, yes I agree, but not on overall performance.
 
Maybe, with JT here we still might have been no better off at this point. JT would probably have fouled out of game. We miss Brockman tonight.
 
I am really getting sick and tired of your hating on Hawes. Henceforth, I shall ignore your posts. You obviously don't know the meaning of the word "impartiality". Hell I bet the reason why Webber blew his knee was because of Hawes.

Rebounding is not one man's job, it's a team effort. Hawes deserves an F in rebounding, yes I agree, but not on overall performance.

I agree... it seems like Hawes killed his mom or something.. very annoying.

Get a grip and realize what you say on this forum will effect nothing on the court! Stop your obsession with Hawes and talk about the team!
 
You know, I just read sactownfan's sig... You say that Hawes's offence means nothing to you. Well... sorry to tell you this but that's what he was drafted for. We didn't draft Hawes saying he's going to be the next Dikembe Mutombo, we said he's got a good offensive game. So err... you may want to send GP an email with your complaints.

For someone that is 'dead' to you you seem to care an awful lot about him.
 
Im not going to go all over the top on the guy, but tonight Spencer was bad.

More than once I saw him look at a miss, start in the other direction, only for the ball to get O-rebounded by the Thunder for points.

I believe more than once I saw him stand flat footed while Russell Westbrook zipped in a snatched a rebound from in front of his face.

Yuck...
 
I am really getting sick and tired of your hating on Hawes. Henceforth, I shall ignore your posts. You obviously don't know the meaning of the word "impartiality". Hell I bet the reason why Webber blew his knee was because of Hawes.

Rebounding is not one man's job, it's a team effort. Hawes deserves an F in rebounding, yes I agree, but not on overall performance.

And thank you for saying something I generally don't have the e-gall to say.
 
its a team effort to win and lose you cant blame it all on one guy... unless that guy was completely chucking it up ;)

seriously man i have had enough of all the hawes hate and all the its his fault blah blah..

i mean ARE WE GOING ANY WHERE at this rate? i suggest enjoy a better kings basketball than last year... be patient..
 
its a team effort to win and lose you cant blame it all on one guy... unless that guy was completely chucking it up ;)

seriously man i have had enough of all the hawes hate and all the its his fault blah blah..

i mean ARE WE GOING ANY WHERE at this rate? i suggest enjoy a better kings basketball than last year... be patient..

Thank you! We played a pretty good game against a good team, hung in there and just didn't manage to get over the hump. +1 to John Wall campaign. If you ask me there isn't that much to be upset about other than the loss itself
 
its a team effort to win and lose you cant blame it all on one guy... unless that guy was completely chucking it up ;)

seriously man i have had enough of all the hawes hate and all the its his fault blah blah..

i mean ARE WE GOING ANY WHERE at this rate? i suggest enjoy a better kings basketball than last year... be patient..

I mean honestly, lets look at the player Hawes was up against tonight, Kristic. Hawes is (in my opinion) a better player, while Kristic, who had a better game today, is 6 years older than Hawes.

Give him some slack... When we have JT back the rebounding will get better. And maybe with JT out Hawes will get better at it since JT isn't sucking them all up? Who knows?
 
Thank you! We played a pretty good game against a good team, hung in there and just didn't manage to get over the hump. +1 to John Wall campaign. If you ask me there isn't that much to be upset about other than the loss itself

Or the Evan Turner campaign, or the Cousins campaign, and so on and so on. What's important is that Hawes just cost us the number one pick.
 
with JT down... and the team needing him more than ever... Hawes failed

Hawes plays like a sissy... HE IS PURE FAIL

21 years old or not.... Hawes is an embarrassment... unacceptable... who was guarding him tonight?

So did you miss the last two games ?

The guy is a young player growing like the rest of the team, we seen flashes, which is good , we know he play at a high level, but the guy isnt a superstar i dont expect 20/10 every single night from him.
 
Good game tonight. Good overall defense except for defending the paint (40+ pts in the paint allowed). Hawes has to learn better to switch and protect against the layup drills by the other team. Easier said than done but have no idea what to do to help him.

I like Landry's game more and more as he gets acclimated to new team. He will be major help for Tyreke once Tyreke learns better how to use him.

Kings bench was big plus outscoring Thunder bench 34 to 15. Seems that is happening more and more lately. Cisco off the bench is becoming an awesome sight and May and Greene look good as well.

FT's. 20 of 24 of Kings FT were by Tyreke and Landry. Not good. Need to get Hawes, Greene and Omri to drive more. Best FT % in quite awhile tho.

Parting shot was hearing Jerry Reynolds mumble about Durant as he creamed everyone for the umteenth time, "that guy is Durantula"!
 
By your logic,
Whoever guarded Durant deserves an F.
Whoever guarded Westbrook deserves an F.
Did Hawes guard those guys?
If he didn't, then what happened when they got past their man?
Hawes had to defend the paint.
And what happens if one of those guys actually misses a shot?
Hawes is out of position to get the rebound.
It's not all on Hawes by a longshot.

To me, it's amazing the Kings got this close. OKC has the best young talent in the league. On pure talent, leaving aside the experience factor, they have the most talented trio in the entire league. It's no shame to come within a whisker on their home floor from beating them.

Partially, I agree here. OKC is legit. Not legit as in a contender, but legit as in they are more than a first round fodder team come playoffs. For our high lotto bound team to even compete (on the road) is alright with me. W's will start coming next season.

OTOH, our starting C getting 3 boards is bad bad stuff. Hawes is a young big, being inconsistant comes with the territory. But when the inconsistancy lies in the effort, it gets irritating. (For all JT's goofyness, at least effort is never a question). He shouldnt get all the blame, but the dude needs to really step it up.
 
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Good game tonight. Good overall defense except for defending the paint (40+ pts in the paint allowed). Hawes has to learn better to switch and protect against the layup drills by the other team. Easier said than done but have no idea what to do to help him.

I like Landry's game more and more as he gets acclimated to new team. He will be major help for Tyreke once Tyreke learns better how to use him.

Kings bench was big plus outscoring Thunder bench 34 to 15. Seems that is happening more and more lately. Cisco off the bench is becoming an awesome sight and May and Greene look good as well.

FT's. 20 of 24 of Kings FT were by Tyreke and Landry. Not good. Need to get Hawes, Greene and Omri to drive more. Best FT % in quite awhile tho.

Parting shot was hearing Jerry Reynolds mumble about Durant as he creamed everyone for the umteenth time, "that guy is Durantula"!


Have you seen Greene drive to the hoop? He gets the ball slapped away all the time. Worse, it usually leads to a fast break. It doesn't happen often, but it is a problem. Greene is definately not a guy that should drive to the hoop more. I am annoyed when he drives to do flat out 1 on 1 to get to the hoop. It means there is a high chance of a Kings turnover.

It can't help that he's 6'11" and the ball takes longer to bounce from the floor to his hand again...maybe not.
 
Have you seen Greene drive to the hoop? He gets the ball slapped away all the time. Worse, it usually leads to a fast break. It doesn't happen often, but it is a problem. Greene is definately not a guy that should drive to the hoop more. I am annoyed when he drives to do flat out 1 on 1 to get to the hoop. It means there is a high chance of a Kings turnover.

It can't help that he's 6'11" and the ball takes longer to bounce from the floor to his hand again...maybe not.


Um, precisely one of the giant steps forward in Greene's game has been his willingness to attack the rim. You don't ever want him, or really any player, to sit back there and settle for jumpshots. And he'll make error and turn it over sometimes. And thats fine. Part of being a young team is making those mistakes and working the kinks out. As long as you keep the pressure on the defense you are doing fine.
 
its a team effort to win and lose you cant blame it all on one guy... unless that guy was completely chucking it up ;)

seriously man i have had enough of all the hawes hate and all the its his fault blah blah..

i mean ARE WE GOING ANY WHERE at this rate? i suggest enjoy a better kings basketball than last year... be patient..

I agree. I am pleased with Hawes' play lately, he continues to show promise. That is good enough for me, considering center takes the longest to get consistent with in the NBA. He has ample time to gain strength in the coming seasons, and that is a positive.
 
I am really getting sick and tired of your hating on Hawes. Henceforth, I shall ignore your posts. You obviously don't know the meaning of the word "impartiality". Hell I bet the reason why Webber blew his knee was because of Hawes.

Rebounding is not one man's job, it's a team effort. Hawes deserves an F in rebounding, yes I agree, but not on overall performance.

I agree. It has gotten really old. I think it'd be pretty safe to say many of us are tired of your obsession with Hawes.
 
with JT down... and the team needing him more than ever... Hawes failed

Hawes plays like a sissy... HE IS PURE FAIL

21 years old or not.... Hawes is an embarrassment... unacceptable... who was guarding him tonight?

Your posts like this are an embarrassment.
 
Your posts like this are an embarrassment.

check check... hes an underachieving waste of 6 million dollars so far...

he gets clowned by every big in the league and then finally clowned by his coach... hes miller 2.0 and im over it...

he is only 21... and he isnt a retard... hes a wuss... afraid of contact and rebounds.

no one here knows embarrassment better than Hawes
 
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