[Grades] Grades v. Sixers 02/01/2013

The bench scored 7pts in 67min tonight (on 2-14FG). How many pts tommorow?

  • 40+

    Votes: 2 9.1%
  • 31-40

    Votes: 1 4.5%
  • 21-30

    Votes: 2 9.1%
  • 11-20

    Votes: 5 22.7%
  • 10 or fewer

    Votes: 8 36.4%
  • 0. They suck eggs.

    Votes: 4 18.2%

  • Total voters
    22
  • Poll closed .

Bricklayer

Don't Make Me Use The Bat
There was something here, but just not enough.

Reke was dominant, in the 2nd and 3rd quarters in particular, but ran out of gas trying to carry us by the end. Boogie looked like he was ready to bang from the beginning, but somehow never got into a rhythm, and was not consistently in position to dominate. IT put up big numbers in a fool's boxscore effort (with just a hint of stat padding to boot), but only gave us about 5 min of actual PG play -- which not surprisingly coincided with the 5 minutes when we made our biggest run. We got 6 good hustle min out of Cisco before he turned back into a pumpkin. Jason ALMOST had a good game,but blew every finish. Smart made one unexpectedly good substitution with Cisco for JT in the third, then resumed mis-coaching in many of the ways he always does (althoguh should be noted out bench was so bad that this may be the first time all year all 5 starters went 30+min). But not enough guys helped not enough of the time.

Phooey. Reke looked great though. It doesn't matter for this year, but it could matter for next. I am going to be frickin' glad to have the current administration cleared out lock stock and barrel. But I think its a big key to the revamped organization that Reke leave no doubt he's a keeper by year's end.

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Bricklayer
Capt. Factorial
Bajaden


Boxscore

Stats: 33min 2pts (1-7, 0-2, 0-0) 3reb 3ast 1stl 0blk 0TO
Salmons ( D ) -- was back from the flu, and back home to his old stomping grounds, and yet barely back at all. Annoyed in the early going with a bad 1 on 1 force that we completely do not need out of him, but once he got that out of his system was just kind of there. Devfensively he was attentive, but rarely involved in the play as he guarded a largely passive Turner. On offense it alternated between him standing around wiht his arms down and totally uninvolved if he did not have the ball, or with us running the offense through him ala a Ron Harper type PG, when both he and we looked better. We he returned late rin the half, for some reason he had decided that those opportunities to run the offense were now opportunities to shoot, something that is more tolerable when you are hitting just anything. After half saw frequent use in 4 guard lineups next to Cisco and Reke, and consented to grabbing a couple of rebounds. But never could do anything offensively, and got minutes more because the options were all too awful or sick ratehr than because of anything he himself was doing. --Brick

Stats: 31min 6pts (3-9, 0-0, 0-0) 4reb 0ast 1stl 0blk 1TO
Thompson ( D- ) -- I had some high hopes for "Hometown JT" to show up, but perhaps the Sixers plan to swap home/away uniforms was a clever ploy to erase the JT/Philly mojo. JT started out fine in the first quarter, winning the tip (a rarity for this team), consistently fighting for deep position in the post, and hitting a turnaround in the post and a baseline jumper in the first few minutes. He was also the victim of a few bad entry passes and one quick foul to prevent an easy basket. But from that point Thompson managed only one more basket on his last seven shots, and he didn't get his first rebound until more than halfway through the second quarter. JT ended up with a poor total of four rebounds, one of which was actually a loose ball. On a night when the Kings D was terrible, JT's D was only half-terrible. He was active, disrupting cutters and doing a lot of hedging, stopped Holiday in transition once, forced two turnovers on help defense and saved a Hawes dunk with a slap from behind. But, on the other hand he got beat in the post badly by none other than Lavoy Allen and on one rebound allowed Thaddeus Young to go coast-to-coast. He got yanked midway through the third for us to go with our G-G-G-G-C lineup, whose energy gave us an 18-8 run while he was out. Then, when he spelled Cousins in the same lineup, we got beat 6-10 and JT was completely ineffective on offense. And then the game was over. JT played a little bit of defense tonight, and saved me from giving out straight Fs by the barest of margins. --Capt.

Stats: 35min 12pts (6-13, 0-0, 0-3) 12reb 4ast 2stl 3blk 4TO
Cousins ( C ) -- looked more energetic and playing with more power int he early going, and splashed in a couple of early jumpers in an offensively effective early stint. Was really battling ont he glass...which is a good thing since he was literally the ONLY guy doing jack or squat there for much fo the game. At the end fo the first quarter he had 6 rebounds...and we as a team had 6 rebounds. Ridiculous. Defensively was not exactly getting killed indivudally, but the middle was as wide open as ever, adn I don't even know how we are supposed to be playing pick and rolls, rotations, shows etc. All I know is whatever we are doing isn't working. Still, while this had hints of big potential, it never took off. Was not able to finish consistently. Got beat twice off the dribble by Hawes to start the third. And while was trying to pass, as it has been for several weeks a good number of those passes are being picked off. Not sure why. Finally sent a renewed message to Hawes as we got rolling, just flat stepping up and ripping a would be pass right out of his hands, and going down the other way for a strong post move. Just didn't ignite though. Missed his FTs, could not consistently get the ball from his guards, and not able to establihs anything late as we faded. At least we had some effort back, and the return of his boardwork was absolutely critical for us not ot set some sort of record for board futility in the early going. Wasn't awful, just more of a solid Emeka Okafor level of game than any sort of major option that he was as recently as two weeks back. --Brick

Stats: 42min 29pts (11-18, 1-2, 6-8) 4reb 4ast 2stl 0blk 3TO
Evans ( A- ) -- Got off to a bit of a slow start on both ends of the floor, but after heating up without a doubt Tyreke was the best player on the floor tonight for the Kings. He may have been the best player on the floor period. It seemed that just about every other possession for the Kings, Tyreke was scoring the ball. He started the game by getting posted up by Young, who missed the shot, but got his own rebound back and put it back in. Tyreke returned the favor at the other end by posting up Young, and getting fouled. If he had a problem, it was trying to stop Holiday from scoring. But then no one on the Kings had much luck in that dept. He also passed up a shot in the post and tried a near impossible pass to JT under the basket. Very unselfish, but not very wise as it ended in a turnover. Except for a carry, and a travel in the second half, he didn't do much else wrong, and he did a lot right. He stole the ball twice, and almost had two other steals. He played tough defense all night long, and in the second half, when he was on Holiday, Holiday struggled. He was able to bull to the basket both off the dribble and in the post and just power right over/through various Philly defenders. And during our 3rd quarter run he really started running hard on the break and got rewarded by IT for a very efficient night. Toward the end he was obviously tiring and maybe feeling too good, as he made several old style overdribble looking for a lane, and then turn it over style errors. But it as still a big game, a season high on highly efficient shooting. This is two good games in a row for Tyreke, who looked like the player that won ROY, as he relentlessly attacked all night long, but in general, made good decisions with the ball. --Baja

Stats: 33min 24pts (7-18, 0-3, 10-10) 4reb 5ast 1stl 0blk 2TO
Thomas ( B- ) -- looked quick to start, getting into the lane several times, and creating a steal and breakaway in the open court when Holliday fell down. But continued missing threes, and in the early going both we and he looked better when he was off ball and Salmons was setting him up. On the other end we started the game with him on Nick Young, and while the Sixers tried to take advantage of that inside a few times, that's not Young's game and it wasn't an efficient option for them. Put up the bulk of his numbers after half, about half of them in a selfish stretch to start the third where he kept missing open shots on kicks and running every play for himself -- when you come off the a pick you can either look for teammates, or you can look at the hoop, and he was largely exclusively looking at the hoop and did not have a single assist until midway in the third quarter. But came out of a mid-third timeout a different player, and its not coincidence we came out lookig like a different team and made a big run to get right back into it with IT suddenly notching multiple assists to both Cuz and Reke, including back to back racing layups for Reke on the break. Was his and our best stretch of the game. Got the large point total above as kind of a gift really, 6 of them coming on a pair of idiotic plays by Sixer guards to close the third and open the 4th, when two times they run out at IT and fouled him on 3pt shots, the first of them from a good 30 feet away at the 3rd quarter buzzer -- I don't think he'd made a jumper all game at that point, and boom, just like that they give him 6 pts of no reason at all, and we were within 4. But it would be kind of the last legitimate hurrah for us as we faded badly in the 4th, and there was nothing IT could do to stop it. Added 5pts in the last 2min of semi-garbagetime to make a 19pt night 24, but that was just window dressing. One of only a few guys to bring real energy tonight, but this grade reflects the fact that I really only thought he was helping the team for about 6 minutes there in the late 3rd/early 4th.
--Brick
 
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Bench

Stats: 23min 6pts (2-5, 0-1, 2-2) 0reb 2ast 2stl 0blk 0TO
Thornton ( D ) -- Marcus didn't play badly, he simply didn't do enough to make any impact on the game. I thought he played good defense for the most part, and he seemed to be playing hard, but with little in the way of results. 6 points in 23 minutes isn't going to cut it for a SG. I'm not sure whats going on with Thornton, but he seemingly disappears at times. It may not be all his fault. I've seen him open on the wing waving his hand, and not getting the ball. Similarly, I saw Cousins, and JT, both wide open under the basket waving for the ball, and being either missed, or ignored by our visionary PG's. My other thought is that perhaps he's trying to fit into the new wonderful, lets pass the ball team, because twice tonight, he passed up open shots to pass the ball. He did contribute 2 assists and 2 steals. He seems to come up with at least one steal every game. It seems like an eternity since Marcus has had a bust out game. --Baja

Stats: 7min 0pts (0-2, 0-0, 0-0) 1reb 0ast 0stl 0blk 1TO
Brooks ( D ) -- ineffective 2nd quarter stint as well. entirely his fault? No. But he made a couple of poor plays, once forcing a layup attempt on the break, and another time changing his mind in midair on a pass to TRob and ending up just weakly throwing the ball out of bounds. And on the other end while his defense was attentive, could not stop Holliday. Still, I back off the lowest grades here because for the most part he looked like he was trying to play it right. He tried to run plays, but there was just nobody to pass to in a punchless bench crew, and the Sixers were doubling and trapping the ball out of his hands. And on defense he was in his stance, working pretty hard...but he's still just a scrawny 6'0" 160lb guy and just got beat. Wasn't selfish and lazy so much as just not very good. --Brick

Stats: 20min 0pts (0-3, 0-1, 0-0) 3reb 2ast 3stl 1blk 0TO
Garcia ( D-) -- You could say it was the tale of two halfs for Cisco. Because after the first half, he was staring an F in the face. The first half ended, and I looked at my notes, and all I had written about Cisco, was that he missed a tough layup in traffic. That was it. Offensively, he wasn't any better in the second half, but defensively, he was very good. Thus the D-. He had 3 steals and played very good defense on Young. Something he forgot to do in the 1st half. 0 points along with 3 boards, 3 steals, and 2 assists doesn't sound like much in 20 minutes of playing time, but he did bust his butt on defense in the second half, and helped the Kings climb back into the game, and a brief lead. --Baja

Stats: 5min 0pts (0-1, 0-0, 0-0) 2reb 1ast 0stl 0blk 1TO
Hayes ( F ) -- I know Chuck only played 5 minutes, but considering he was a part of the second string squad that came in and let the game slip away he's got to carry some of the responsibility. When Hayes came in, we were down 4. By the time he left less than 5 minutes later we were down 12, and in the meantime we played some of the worst "NBA" defense I've ever seen, repeatedly allowing layups as the result of our big men being forced to stop a drive in the lane and allowing big men to roll to the basket. One assist and two offensive rebounds (one of which resulted in a blown followup) can't save those terrible 5 minutes. --Capt.

Stats: 7min 0pts (0-2, 0-0, 0-0) 2reb 0ast 0stl 0blk 1TO
Robinson ( F ) -- Played four minutes in the second quarter collapse during which we netted -7 points and played terrible, terrible defense. For his own part, Robinson and Garcia apparently couldn't get their coverage straight, as for two consecutive possessions (actually, my typo of "poossessions" was probably more accurate) Garcia seemed to think he was supposed to play man defense on Thaddeus Young (the PF, mind you) and Robinson thought he was supposed to stand in the low block and face away from the corner where there was absolutely no defender and Dorell Wright just standing there picking his nose. This resulted in the quite lucky outcome of Wright going 1-2 from three. Say what you will about Keith Smart, I don't think he drew that "defense" up. On the offensive end, he had a turnover trying to split a double-team instead of taking a 7-foot jumper in the lane and a missed shot from the baseline and ZERO rebounds. (He got both of his rebounds and improved his +/- by 5 points during two minutes of garbage time). Seeing as he only played well in garbage time, he gets a garbage grade. --Capt.

Stats: 4min 1pts (0-1, 0-1, 1-2) 0reb 0ast 0stl 0blk 0TO
Fredette ( INC ) -- Jimmer only played 4 minutes in the game, and 30 seconds of that came at the end of the 1st half. If I had to give him a grade, it would be a D, because he esentially did nothing but stand on the right or left wing, and help spread the floor. He was a non factor. --Baja
 
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When even Smart's BFF is mad at him, things are not looking up.
Marcus Thornton ‏@OfficialMT23
Patiently waiting until he decides to really turn me loose then it's ON
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When even Smart's BFF is mad at him, things are not looking up.

I have no idea what to make of Marcus's role or game since hs return, but generally shooting barely 40% over an 18 game span is not the way to audition for more minutes, particularly when you would generally take them from the guy playing the best ball on the team right now.
 
As much as I appreciate Bruski's vocal efforts to support the Kings staying in sac, I find his evaluation of the team's talent so off-base its comical. Here are his takes on tonight (granted it has a fantasy spin, but still):

Tyreke Evans scored a season-high 29 points on 11-of-18 shooting (1-of-2 3PTs, 6-of-8 FTs) with four rebounds, four assists, and two steals in Friday's loss.
Fantasy owners don't have to worry about the effortless defense and the offense-killing decisions Evans makes, because nobody is going to tell him to stop what he's doing and we're not kidding. If he played for Gregg Popovich, we'd be scared for the coach's health.

Isaiah Thomas scored 24 points on 7-of-18 shooting (no threes, 10-of-10 FTs) with four rebounds, five assists, and one steal in Friday's loss to the Sixers.
Venerable NBA and Kings writer Tom Ziller wrote that the Kings "can't afford to have Isaiah Thomas" off the floor, and then cracked on the sophomore only getting 24 mpg this season. The running joke of Keith Smart's handling of the point guard is barely worth mentioning -- a given now -- and owners just have to hope the horse eventually drinks. Had the keys been given to IT at the end of last season, instead of letting the rest of the team set new standards for bad decision-making, the Kings wouldn't look like the Indians in Major League.

WTF? What games has he been watching this year?
 
Frnakly its not much diffrent than his reporting ont he whole seattle/sacto fight. He's chosen a side and is going to be an advocate, not anybody reasonable.

Still, not sure where that came from, but its extreme in its stupidity. It should be challenged if its got a comments section to it.
 
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Evans was very good tonight. A few mistakes, but really encouraging. Certainly the best player on the floor for either team.

Some of the love IT gets is really perplexing to me. He's the starting PG for the team with the worst offense in the league. He averages 11 points and 3AST on .435 shooting, and I'm willing to bet he takes more shots than Evans or Thornton when he's getting comparable minutes.

I like Bruski a lot, and commend him on the Arena stuff, but he keeps mentioning how the kings need to 'give the keys' to IT like Thomas isn't getting a fair shake. The truth is, No one is getting a fair shake. I think Evans isn't getting a fair shake. I think Thornton is getting completely buried.

This whole 'Imagine what IT would do if the coach would just give him a chance' notion drives me crazy. Look at the per36 numbers for Evans, and yes, Jimmer. Want to talk about guys getting killed by coaching ... they are on the top of the list. Per36 Thomas takes MORE shots than Evans, lower FG%, lower 3P%, worse defense, etc.

And what is happening to Jimmer right now is borderline criminal. And I feel like with every Jimmer compliment I have to preface it by saying I didn't want him, I hated the trade, blah, blah, blah, but he deserves minutes here. He gets playing time every other second half, after Brooks has failed to do anything in the first half. Aaron Brooks per36 numbers are just as bad as his per game numbers. Plus Jimmer has a potential future here. Brooks is gone by years end. Just stupid.

And while I'm at it, James Johnson is better than Chuck Hayes as a PF, and he's better than Garcia as a 3, in my opinion. May even be better than Salmons now that his game seems to have cooled off. He should be getting minutes. He's the best defender on the roster.
 
Evans was very good tonight. A few mistakes, but really encouraging. Certainly the best player on the floor for either team.

Some of the love IT gets is really perplexing to me. He's the starting PG for the team with the worst offense in the league. He averages 11 points and 3AST on .435 shooting, and I'm willing to bet he takes more shots than Evans or Thornton when he's getting comparable minutes.

I like Bruski a lot, and commend him on the Arena stuff, but he keeps mentioning how the kings need to 'give the keys' to IT like Thomas isn't getting a fair shake. The truth is, No one is getting a fair shake. I think Evans isn't getting a fair shake. I think Thornton is getting completely buried.

This whole 'Imagine what IT would do if the coach would just give him a chance' notion drives me crazy. Look at the per36 numbers for Evans, and yes, Jimmer. Want to talk about guys getting killed by coaching ... they are on the top of the list. Per36 Thomas takes MORE shots than Evans, lower FG%, lower 3P%, worse defense, etc.

And what is happening to Jimmer right now is borderline criminal. And I feel like with every Jimmer compliment I have to preface it by saying I didn't want him, I hated the trade, blah, blah, blah, but he deserves minutes here. He gets playing time every other second half, after Brooks has failed to do anything in the first half. Aaron Brooks per36 numbers are just as bad as his per game numbers. Plus Jimmer has a potential future here. Brooks is gone by years end. Just stupid.

And while I'm at it, James Johnson is better than Chuck Hayes as a PF, and he's better than Garcia as a 3, in my opinion. May even be better than Salmons now that his game seems to have cooled off. He should be getting minutes. He's the best defender on the roster.

well put, agreed on everything. the fact that JJ didn't get a crack at Thad Young is just ridiculous, he's by far the best matchup the Kings had to offer on him.
 
As much as I appreciate Bruski's vocal efforts to support the Kings staying in sac, I find his evaluation of the team's talent so off-base its comical. Here are his takes on tonight (granted it has a fantasy spin, but still):

Tyreke Evans scored a season-high 29 points on 11-of-18 shooting (1-of-2 3PTs, 6-of-8 FTs) with four rebounds, four assists, and two steals in Friday's loss.
Fantasy owners don't have to worry about the effortless defense and the offense-killing decisions Evans makes, because nobody is going to tell him to stop what he's doing and we're not kidding. If he played for Gregg Popovich, we'd be scared for the coach's health.

Isaiah Thomas scored 24 points on 7-of-18 shooting (no threes, 10-of-10 FTs) with four rebounds, five assists, and one steal in Friday's loss to the Sixers.
Venerable NBA and Kings writer Tom Ziller wrote that the Kings "can't afford to have Isaiah Thomas" off the floor, and then cracked on the sophomore only getting 24 mpg this season. The running joke of Keith Smart's handling of the point guard is barely worth mentioning -- a given now -- and owners just have to hope the horse eventually drinks. Had the keys been given to IT at the end of last season, instead of letting the rest of the team set new standards for bad decision-making, the Kings wouldn't look like the Indians in Major League.

WTF? What games has he been watching this year?

Some of his tweets earlier in the season were just comical, just pure hyperbole and nonsense about certain players, and then complete contradictions in the next tweet.

People like his Seattle/Sac coverage but his basketball stuff is just awful imo.
 
Does anyone else think having Tyreke as the number #1 option and Cousins as the number #2 option is better for the team? Cousins as the #1 option has to create to much and often gets himself in trouble no other big man in the L has to create as much as him they all have a guard who does it far more often.

By moving Tyreke to the #1 option imo it could force Cousins to play downlow more and battle for boards and play like a true big while mixing in his skillset to that. While both need the ball Cousins could easily get lots of points simply battling away in the paint which Reke can't do and it could also mean Cousins could go back to using more of his passing game. I wouldn't mind for a second if Reke become our go to guy with Cousins backing him up.

I don't think it would impact Cousins much as all where as Evans it would help him out greatly
 
Does anyone else think having Tyreke as the number #1 option and Cousins as the number #2 option is better for the team? Cousins as the #1 option has to create to much and often gets himself in trouble no other big man in the L has to create as much as him they all have a guard who does it far more often.

By moving Tyreke to the #1 option imo it could force Cousins to play downlow more and battle for boards and play like a true big while mixing in his skillset to that. While both need the ball Cousins could easily get lots of points simply battling away in the paint which Reke can't do and it could also mean Cousins could go back to using more of his passing game. I wouldn't mind for a second if Reke become our go to guy with Cousins backing him up.

I don't think it would impact Cousins much as all where as Evans it would help him out greatly

I think a smart coach would get the team to pass the ball to Cousins in the low post a lot more often. And Evans too if he had a size advantage.
 
I stopped reading after I saw Thomas got a B-....
all he does is take it down the court, drive and A. get packed, B. get it stolen, C. get lucky on a layup. either way there is no ball movement. and he jacked up like 18 shots without warrant
 
well put, agreed on everything. the fact that JJ didn't get a crack at Thad Young is just ridiculous, he's by far the best matchup the Kings had to offer on him.

Grant said that he came down with the flu that Salmons had and was unavailable for the game.
 
I saw something strange for the Kings last night. During the come back I saw a team with Passion and Skill that completely dominated. It was very cool to see. But as soon as we got the lead it all evaporated. That really sucked. But I have to say this team could contend under the right coaching etc.
 
Does anyone else think having Tyreke as the number #1 option and Cousins as the number #2 option is better for the team? Cousins as the #1 option has to create to much and often gets himself in trouble no other big man in the L has to create as much as him they all have a guard who does it far more often.

By moving Tyreke to the #1 option imo it could force Cousins to play downlow more and battle for boards and play like a true big while mixing in his skillset to that. While both need the ball Cousins could easily get lots of points simply battling away in the paint which Reke can't do and it could also mean Cousins could go back to using more of his passing game. I wouldn't mind for a second if Reke become our go to guy with Cousins backing him up.

I don't think it would impact Cousins much as all where as Evans it would help him out greatly
Sounds good to me. Too often now Cousinsc seems uncomfortable after gets the initial pass, usually out high, and too often nothing good comes of it. Talk to Smart.
 
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