[Grades] Grades v. Knicks 2/12/2014

With the trade deadline coming up next Thursday, was this the last we see of Jimmer in Sac?

  • Yes

    Votes: 22 36.1%
  • No

    Votes: 39 63.9%

  • Total voters
    61
  • Poll closed .
FWIW, it totally matters - to me at least. I am not a GM and I do not portray one my television show. I am a fan and want to be entertained. IT is entertaining to me. I would love it if he hit a game winning shot sometime and ran to center court and yelled to the fans - "ARE YOU NOT ENTERTAINED!"

Winning is far more entertaining than miniature gunners. Being an entertaining losing basketball player is being a carnival sideshow act.

JWill was entertaining. But things got really fun when we brought in the boring slow footed guy.
 
FWIW, it totally matters - to me at least. I am not a GM and I do not portray one on my television show. I am a fan and want to be entertained. IT is entertaining to me. I would love it if he hit a game winning shot sometime and ran to center court and yelled to the fans - "ARE YOU NOT ENTERTAINED!"

See and IT is anything but entertaining to me. I couldn't even watch the games when Cousins and Gay were injured because I can't stand selfish basketball and that seems to be IT's bread and butter. What's entertaining to me is a group of guys who come together and play as a team, who work hard on defense, and who share the ball on offense. Winning with confidence and style is entertaining. Playing your style of game and daring other teams to try and keep up with you is entertaining. And seeing selfishness and arrogance rewarded with a loss is best of all.
 
Every loss makes me less and less entertained. If we want entertainment hire a damn clown. My entertainment comes from winning.
 
Winning is far more entertaining than miniature gunners. Being an entertaining losing basketball player is being a carnival sideshow act.

JWill was entertaining. But things got really fun when we brought in the boring slow footed guy.

So you think Bibby is better than IT at a similar stage in their career? How so?
 
So you think Bibby is better than IT at a similar stage in their career? How so?

i'm pretty sure that the comparison brick was making was between isaiah thomas and jason williams, not isaiah thomas and mike bibby. besides that, you're just really hung up on this "better" thing, aren't you? there's a reason that bobby jackson came off the bench for those golden era kings. mike bibby was a more appropriate fit in the starting unit...
 
So you think Bibby is better than IT at a similar stage in their career? How so?

By the time Mike Bibby was 25 he had led multiple elite teams into contention, hit clutch shots in big games, ran organized halfcourt offenses, and stayed the hell out of the way of his betters. I, and any rational NBA observer, would take the Mike Bibby of those years 100/100 times as the #3 option here next to Cuz and Gay. If he could play defense, he'd be the perfect fit for the duty, just as he was with Webber and Peja.
 
For pity's sake, I can't decide if you're being obtuse willfully or just don't comprehend how time works. The game was already put away, as in, zero chance that the Knicks could come back and win it at that point with proper execution. IT risked that guarantee by hoisting an early, contested, low percentage long two off the dribble in isolation with ten seconds on the clock.

Now, let's look at the percentages on that shot. IT makes 38% of his pull-up jumpers overall, but only 33% of his pull-up threes (despite taking three of those per game), meaning he makes 43% of his mid-range jumpers. Pretty good, right? Well, if you look at his shot chart, you'll see that he makes far more of his jumpers on the left half of the court than the right half, which makes sense because he is left-handed. He actually shoots about 30% from the area he took the shot at the end of the game. That means that he is going to miss that shot far, far more than he makes it.

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The fact that it was a long two is going to mean a higher probability of a long rebound, leading to a runout and open transition three for one of the most clutch finishers in NBA history.

It was the wrong decision to make, but had a good result because he knocked down the shot.

I hope Malone is more patient than I am because IT, Jimmer, Cousins or any other King would be running ladders for days for risking giving away a win on a selfish, dumb shot like that.

Edited to add stats about just what a bad shot that shot was.
Yes but he always does this so the important thing is he made it. Good for him.
 
Yes but he always does this so the important thing is he made it. Good for him.

Again, I don't disagree. What I can't cotton to is the idea that IT was putting away the game. That was already done. What he was doing was padding his stats. It'll help his next contract, and I don't begrudge him that unless it comes at the team's expense.
 
By the time Mike Bibby was 25 he had led multiple elite teams into contention, hit clutch shots in big games, ran organized halfcourt offenses, and stayed the hell out of the way of his betters. I, and any rational NBA observer, would take the Mike Bibby of those years 100/100 times as the #3 option here next to Cuz and Gay. If he could play defense, he'd be the perfect fit for the duty, just as he was with Webber and Peja.

Bibby, prior to becoming a tank, was actually relatively good on D.
 
IT is entertaining to me because he hustles - real hard. He also looks like he really enjoys playing the game and guinely acts like it is an honor to play.

This matters to me.
 
Who just called Grant Napear show and said that they come on to KingsFans.com and see that everyone on here thinks Isaiah Thomas is not a true PG?
 
I assume Grant went off on us? :p

When the caller brought up the possibility of making a move at PG in the near future and said "theres a lot of people that don't think Isaiah is a long term starting PG" Grant said angrily "Yeah well they don't know what the hell they're talking about, Who's saying that??" and that's when the caller said that he goes onto KingsFans.com and the people on there don't think he's a True PG. lol
 
When the caller brought up the possibility of making a move at PG in the near future and said "theres a lot of people that don't think Isaiah is a long term starting PG" Grant said angrily "Yeah well they don't know what the hell they're talking about, Who's saying that??" and that's when the caller said that he goes onto KingsFans.com and the people on there don't think he's a True PG. lol

Wait, what did he respond with? He is truly a caricature of himself. He was spouting off about how Jimmer isn't even in the top 8 on the team last night as a reason that he shouldn't/couldn't get more playing time ... Grant, have you seen the record? Does it matter who is in the top 8 on a bottom 5 team? lol....I mean Jimmer isn't going to be the savior for this team after a great performance against an "anything but" defense, but c'mon...

BTW, A+ to Jimmer for that Knicks performance, he had the mojo flowing that night and it was fun to see. Wish he would have made the 3 pt contest. Oh well...
 
When the caller brought up the possibility of making a move at PG in the near future and said "theres a lot of people that don't think Isaiah is a long term starting PG" Grant said angrily "Yeah well they don't know what the hell they're talking about, Who's saying that??" and that's when the caller said that he goes onto KingsFans.com and the people on there don't think he's a True PG. lol

He tried to use the explanation that today there's only "1 or maybe 2 true point guards in the league."

Someone doesn't have to be a John Stockton clone to be a true point guard. Unreal
 
I heard your call. The funny part was the moment of silence from him, after you mentioned that you frequent this forum. He probably wanted to say something, but "couldn't" :D

I think The_Jamal was kidding. Scroll to the very bottom of his post. ;)
 
Now that would be a call for the ages ... Grant and Bricklayer discussing the finer points of Sacramento Kings basketball. I would actually pay money to hear that.

If it weren't for that dang hangup switch I might already have given it a go. :p

Unfortunately, he cheats.
 
Can someone please explain to me why it is okay for Jimmer to run the point and look for his shot, but it is not okay for IT to do the same thing?
 
Can someone please explain to me why it is okay for Jimmer to run the point and look for his shot, but it is not okay for IT to do the same thing?

Its not really. Hence the "not a PG" claims about Jimmer.

Certainly far more acceptable for a bench gunner alongside Quincy Acy though than it is as a starting chucker next to DeMarcus Cousins.
 
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