[Grades] Grades v. Altitude, the Refs, & the Celtics

Our biggest problem tonight?

  • Altitude

    Votes: 7 10.0%
  • Pride

    Votes: 28 40.0%
  • Defense

    Votes: 19 27.1%
  • Refs

    Votes: 5 7.1%
  • No Casspi

    Votes: 6 8.6%
  • Celtics

    Votes: 5 7.1%

  • Total voters
    70
  • Poll closed .

Bricklayer

Don't Make Me Use The Bat
Have some bleepin' pride edition.

And now I am sincerely upset this one ate up one of our "home" games.

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Nope, didn't happen. For anybody who missed this one and were hoping to catch it later...just know there was no game. It was cancelled due to...El Nino, or the cartels, or possibly pirates. Whatever it was, it did not happen so under no circumstances whatsoever should you waste a moment of your precious time trying to look up when it will be showing again. It won't. Ever. Have a good night.

Don't look for it.

Seriously.

And now, introducing a new tradition, meant both to be fair to the few remaining ladies on the board, as well as to conserve and extend my supply of pretty girls should everything turn to crap again. Hence, Pretty Girls themes will indeed continue every other blowout. But they will henceforth be alternated with Cute Fuzzy Possibly Baby Animals themes so as to give everybody something they want (hey, I can't help it that men are normal while women are deviants with plushy/furry fetishes).

Boxscore

Stats: 31min 18pts (7-13, 2-3, 2-3) 7reb 0ast 1stl 0blk 4TO
Gay ( C ) -- was really the first of our starters to begin to play his way into this one in minor ways. In fact his most notable early contributions were a couple of unusually strong snatched defensive boards. Finally got a pullup from his preferred midrange in the mid 2nd and slowly worked his way into a solid scoring night. But this game stood out for Rudy more for not being awful than for actually being good. He wasn't moving fast, but at least he was moving. On one end of the court at least -- defensively he was one of a number of Kings wandering around totally lost in space. --Brick
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Stats: 18min 8pts (2-2, 0-0, 4-6) 5reb 1ast 0stl 1blk 1TO
Cauley-Stein ( HARD TO SAY ) -- was quickly out of the game with two quick fouls again, the second one when Rudy got beat and Willie had to slide over to try to stop the easy layup. When he returned tot he game, immediately displayed those questionable hands, fumbling a catch that him directly on the hands. Got the bulk of his numbers in a productive 4th quarter for him that was unfortunately capped by a significant injury -- an open (as in through the skin) finger dislocation that promises to keep him out until the New Year. Its hard for me to factor in garbagetime grades with the real stuff, and by that time I had rediscovered the interesting philosophical works of Democritus online and was paying far more attention to his extracts online than I was the sincerely sad display on the tube. --Brick
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Stats: 25min 16pts (4-17, 2-5, 6-8) 7reb 4ast 0stl 1blk 4TO
Cousins ( D- ) -- should probably go ahead and get the F here given what we need from him, but barely avoided it with a little burst of angry play after Rondo got tossed for literally looking too hard at a ref. Not that it mattered since the Celtics were going to score every single time down the floor anyway. This was a weird weird game for Boogie. Wasn't about him just being frustrated, he came out and looked just flat exhausted, not after a few trips up the floor, but just from the beginning. I have absolutely no explanation for that except the altitude. And if that's how Boogie responds to altitude, if (when) I go climb Everest he's not going to be my sherpa. Was glued flat to the ground, had no lift at all from the opening tip, and fell back into old fugly habits, lumbering around forcing up flat footed off balance stuff into hordes of swarming Celtics, and laboring to get up and down the court. This was a long long way from the 30pt scorer we've been seeing out there every night. Now you just have to hope he's recovered by the time we tipoff in Houston. --Brick
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Stats: 25min 11pts (3-6, 0-2, 5-6) 4reb 1ast 0stl 0blk 0TO
McLemore ( C- ) -- was distinguished from many teammates by I guess being a young elite athlete and not looking sluggish. He hit an early jumper, got to the line a few times against the Celtics' aggressive defense. Unfortunately he may have looked better physically, but he looked in no less of a fog defensively, and I would have to go rewatch this thing -- which I am NOT going to do -- to figure out how he was getting so badly out of position to challenge the Celtic three point shooters on defense. You kept seeing him come running over at the last moment, by which point it was already too late, covering 15-20 feet of space. The court isn't that big, and our backcourt got lit up by IT and Bradley on open jumper after open jumper. Ben got a layup from Rondo out of the halftime break, continued to chip in little bits, but he badly lost his positional battle, and we lost the war.. --Brick
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Stats: 24min 5pts (2-6, 1-1, 0-0) 3reb 8ast 2stl 0blk 4TO
Rondo ( ) -- --Hadlowe

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IT basically said in radio interview with G-man that Kings laid down and Celts out-worked them all night. Pretty obvious. Voted "Pride."
 
The energy on this squad, much the same as Malone had, is noticeably lacking compared to a year ago. On a game to game basis that is.

We don't really come out and just "get after it" on either end.
 
I saw a well-coached and well-conditioned team vs. a poorly coached and poorly conditioned one.
No contest. Total domination. Kings are fooling themselves if they think they are a playoff team.

The passivity of our coach is rubbing off on the team and not in a good way. I question the physical conditioning of:

Rudy
Willie
Cuz

They are in good shape. Not in NBA shape. The Celts ran them out of the gym. I think Cousins is cheating the game by settling for 3s so often and barreling the lane without a plan. It is bad basketball and disrespects legitimate defense. Though the Kings lost by 20 they deserved to lose by 40.

I have been critical of Ben lately but at least he's in shape. That's more than I can say for a few of our guys who look like they needed oxygen masks.
 
The Kings where obviously drinking all night. Then decided to have a work out before the game despite the altitude. Somehow the Celts and our IT where unaffected. But if the Kings can find a way to under perform, they will. Gee I hope we can see the Kings that played Dallas again. Not holding my breath.
 
My dogs sleep in crates by the bed. Sometimes they fart, and the way those farts slowly waft up over our heads and sit there - it is this big dog fart stink bomb and it is just ghastly and a bummer when they do it.

But tonight - my dog fart stink bombs will not seem as bad as that game against the Celtics that I looked forward to for three days.

I'm soooooo disappointed. I hate to leap to broad conclusions based on one dog fart stink bomb of a game, but that was just horrrrrriiibblllle :(((

I voted "pride"
 
I saw a well-coached and well-conditioned team vs. a poorly coached and poorly conditioned one.
No contest. Total domination. Kings are fooling themselves if they think they are a playoff team.

The passivity of our coach is rubbing off on the team and not in a good way. I question the physical conditioning of:

Rudy
Willie
Cuz

They are in good shape. Not in NBA shape. The Celts ran them out of the gym. I think Cousins is cheating the game by settling for 3s so often and barreling the lane without a plan. It is bad basketball and disrespects legitimate defense. Though the Kings lost by 20 they deserved to lose by 40.

I have been critical of Ben lately but at least he's in shape. That's more than I can say for a few of our guys who look like they needed oxygen masks.

The oxygen masks are about right.

The rest of most of the postgame analysis going on around the board is not. This was a 1-game blip for us here. Maybe the first time since the San Antonio game when we haven't been in the game in the 4th quarter. Aside from the crappy defense we haven't been playing like this every night. I've got to point to the altitude I think. We absolutely completely looked gassed and possibly lightheaded from the beginning. Nobody had legs or focus. Maybe it was the trip. Maybe everybody had a bite of Omri's enchilada. But altitude seems a good guess.

And we play one of the fastest paces in the league. Normally don't look gassed doing it. Something was amiss from the beginning in this one.
 
KARL MUST GO

Guys. I'm serious here. I am on record numerous times about my lack of use for Karl. I never wanted to hire him in the first place.

BUT, you have to be realistic here. He's not going. He just isn't. Minus some epic 10 game losing streak that effectively ends the season or something. The season will go down a lot easier when you realize he's going to be here. Maybe we can foist a defensive coordinator onto him at some point.
 
The oxygen masks are about right.

The rest of most of the postgame analysis going on is not. This was a 1-game blip for us here. Maybe the first time since the San Antonio game when we haven't been in the game in the 4th quarter. Aside from the crappy defense we haven't been playing like this every night. I've got to point to the altitude I think. We absolutely completely looked gassed and possibly lightheaded from the beginning. Nobody had legs or focus. Maybe it was the trip. Maybe everybody had a bite of Omri's enchilada. But altitude seems a good guess.

And we play one of the fastest paces in the league. Normally don't look gassed doing it. Something was amiss from the beginning in this one.

Altitude is hell on you if you don't adjust for it. You don't sleep as well, your muscles don't react as well and - if you're not in peak condition - you can pay the price. You also run the risk of your own digestive system turning on you, if you eat what would be a normal meal you sometimes find your system is not processing the food the same way.

I think the Kings made a big mistake in getting to Mexico City early. They should have followed the lead of the Celtics and not shown up until game day. They most likely would have been better off.
 
Shame on anybody who voted altitude wtf. The Celtics played on the same court

The Celtics arrived today for the game. Shame on you if you don't understand the effects of altitude. By arriving a day or two early, the Kings did themselves a disservice. And this is from someone who lives at altitude and had to learn to deal with it just from my trips back and forth to Sacramento.

EDIT: I am not saying tonight's game was as bad as it was solely because of the effect of altitude. I am saying, however, with a certain amount of experience, that it could well have been a factor.
 
Guys. I'm serious here. I am on record numerous times about my lack of use for Karl. I never wanted to hire him in the first place.

BUT, you have to be realistic here. He's not going. He just isn't. Minus some epic 10 game losing streak that effectively ends the season or something. The season will go down a lot easier when you realize he's going to be here. Maybe we can foist a defensive coordinator onto him at some point.

Metta World Peace might be available soon;)
 
Shame on anybody who voted altitude wtf. The Celtics played on the same court

People react differently. And we prepped differently.

Cuz was obviously toast from practically the tipoff. Was reminded of nothing so much as his rookie year when he wasn't in great shape, and when he got tired his game got flat on the ground and so so sloppy.

On the other hand IT is a supreme athlete, and its probably not coincidence the guards determined this one.
 
The Celtics arrived today for the game. Shame on you if you don't understand the effects of altitude. By arriving a day or two early, the Kings did themselves a disservice. And this is from someone who lives at altitude and had to learn to deal with it just from my trips back and forth to Sacramento.

EDIT: I am not saying tonight's game was as bad as it was solely because of the effect of altitude. I am saying, however, with a certain amount of experience, that it could well have been a factor.
So in other words altitude can be more of a factor in a blowout loss to a team that is obviously less talented, than pride?
 
Altitude is hell on you if you don't adjust for it. You don't sleep as well, your muscles don't react as well and - if you're not in peak condition - you can pay the price. You also run the risk of your own digestive system turning on you, if you eat what would be a normal meal you sometimes find your system is not processing the food the same way.

I think the Kings made a big mistake in getting to Mexico City early. They should have followed the lead of the Celtics and not shown up until game day. They most likely would have been better off.

It seems that all the available information says exactly this,....yet they go ahead and get there early. Falls into the "shooting themselves in the foot, again" category
 
And speaking of the "shooting themselves in the foot" syndrome, this just showed up on Twitter:

DeMarcus Cousins ‏@boogiecousins 4m4 minutes ago
Don't look to hard
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No idea what he's talking about, but at this point I'd just as soon not see anything on Twitter from anybody in a Kings uniform. They all need to just STFU and do their jobs.
 
The oxygen masks are about right.

The rest of most of the postgame analysis going on around the board is not. This was a 1-game blip for us here. Maybe the first time since the San Antonio game when we haven't been in the game in the 4th quarter. Aside from the crappy defense we haven't been playing like this every night. I've got to point to the altitude I think. We absolutely completely looked gassed and possibly lightheaded from the beginning. Nobody had legs or focus. Maybe it was the trip. Maybe everybody had a bite of Omri's enchilada. But altitude seems a good guess.

And we play one of the fastest paces in the league. Normally don't look gassed doing it. Something was amiss from the beginning in this one.

It wasn't a 1 game blip. The altitude was a factor but not a crippling one. We played the same crapty defense against Dallas and got lucky. We've played the same crapty defense all year -- good enough for a .350 winning percentage. That's why we have 2 wins against the Western Conference in 11 tries. Cousins, Gay, and Rondo are all capable of getting hot and carrying us but the reality is we're always going to be a sub .500 team if we don't play any defense. As we've seen for the last oh, 8 years or so, one win per week when our shots are dropping isn't going to get us anywhere. We've had one stretch of sustained winning this season against 3 Eastern Conference teams at home when Rondo averaged 45 minutes per game. That's not a reliable game plan either. So unless George Karl wakes up tomorrow and completely changes his basketball philosophy, clinging onto him like a security blanket means we're ****ed.
 
And speaking of the "shooting themselves in the foot" syndrome, this just showed up on Twitter:

DeMarcus Cousins ‏@boogiecousins 4m4 minutes ago
Don't look to hard
1f440.png
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No idea what he's talking about, but at this point I'd just as soon not see anything on Twitter from anybody in a Kings uniform. They all need to just STFU and do their jobs.

I think he's making a joke about the Rondo ejection. :) Which is worthy of being mocked, but making light of it is probably just going to give the referees even more reason to hate us. That's the dark side of the "us against the world" mentality. Sometimes you turn it into a reality just by believing in it.
 
And speaking of the "shooting themselves in the foot" syndrome, this just showed up on Twitter:

DeMarcus Cousins ‏@boogiecousins 4m4 minutes ago
Don't look to hard
1f440.png
...

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No idea what he's talking about, but at this point I'd just as soon not see anything on Twitter from anybody in a Kings uniform. They all need to just STFU and do their jobs.

Not this again. The guy needs to stay away from the internet. Either come out and say what he wants to say, or keep it to himself. The Twitter "mystery clue games" are getting really old
 
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