B- but I'm reserving the right to bump up to a B or B+ depending on the first two weeks of July.
If some of the front court players are shipped and we address the big hole at SF I'll feel much better.
I'll be honest, that my expectations for Giles went down with this pick which I think is part of my frustration. But my main concern is defense, or lack of it. Maybe it shouldn't be and I'm thinking old NBA. But that's what I can't shake.
The Faried comparison might not be a bad thing considering that the only problem with him is that he is a wee lad.Going into the draft, my impression of Bagley has been bigger Kenneth Faried. Maybe a bit more ball handling, but not a particularly skilled player. I also would like to hope that we have our frontcourt set with Giles and Skal (hopeful that Skal has a breakout year). As such, was rather disappointed and if you asked me pre draft I wouldn't foresee Marvin as an all star level player. But I can understand the potential of having a big who can run, and unlike someone else sounds like he has a great work ethic and motor. He was also a consensus top pick, so it's not like it was a reach or anything. My take is that the FO was swayed by comfort from having seen him workout, from the purported chemistry with Fox and Giles, and the hesitation to take the ball out of Fox's hands were they to draft Doncic.
I give it a B.
Bagley may be everything that Skal and Willie are not. That makes hiim a good fit.
Big motor, max effort, physical, runs the floor, plenty of offense.
You speak in absolutes as if it's a foregone conclusion that Luka is going to be a transcendent talent when in reality it is just a difference of opinion. Let's be real here, Luka is absolutely a better fit for this team. And forgive me but no team is more qualified to judge Luka's upside than our staff and the fact that we passed on him speaks volumes. Either way, Luka or Bagley are just pieces to a puzzle so let's let FA come to fruition then give Bagley a year to see what we have. I get your mad but the pick has been made and the Luka ship has sailed so get on board with our selection until he either proves you right or wrong.The word “fit” is what Portland used to justify passing on a SG from North Carolina
At the end of the day, I think they are betting on our team fitting the "next version" of the NBA. An all out attack mode offense with dominant size. If this thing works, you have two super bigs with Giles and Bagley that completely dominate with size and athleticism. Of course we haven't seen either play in an NBA game, but if they did strike gold on both of them, they really could be revolutionary.Although I'm happy with the Marvin Bagley pick (he was 2nd on my list behind Doncic) my expectations for Harry Giles went down as well and I can't help but feel the that there isn't as much trust in Giles to be the player we all hyped him up to be unless from office believes WCS and Skal are not part of the future moving forward.
You speak in absolutes as if it's a foregone conclusion that Luka is going to be a transcendent talent when in reality it is just a difference of opinion. Let's be real here, Luka is absolutely a better fit for this team. And forgive me but no team is more qualified to judge Luka's upside than our staff and the fact that we passed on him speaks volumes. Either way, Luka or Bagley are just pieces to a puzzle so let's let FA come to fruition then give Bagley a year to see what we have. I get your mad but the pick has been made and the Luka ship has sailed so get on board with our selection until he either proves you right or wrong.
You speak in absolutes as if it's a foregone conclusion that Luka is going to be a transcendent talent when in reality it is just a difference of opinion. Let's be real here, Luka is absolutely a better fit for this team. And forgive me but no team is more qualified to judge Luka's upside than our staff and the fact that we passed on him speaks volumes. Either way, Luka or Bagley are just pieces to a puzzle so let's let FA come to fruition then give Bagley a year to see what we have. I get your mad but the pick has been made and the Luka ship has sailed so get on board with our selection until he either proves you right or wrong.
I really hope you're right. If this all starts to come together (with Fox taking a jump next year, Giles healthy and hungry, and Bagley making an immediate impact) then the narrative will change quick. There is a LOT of young talent on this roster that the national media isn't really paying much attention to. People may still disagree with the style of play and composition of the team in general, but I think we can start to make people see that we're headed in the right direction. Goal needs to be respectability before we get too bent out of shape around whether we are set up best to win a championship. I'm really hoping we are playing the long game and focused on improving franchise culture and respectability that can carry us into many years of solid ball.Marvin Bagley is the real deal! Those of you who compare him to Faried miss the point. There are players in the NBA that are there due to effort. Faried; Baynes; Plumlee; etc. There are players in the NBA that have talent and lack effort. Beasley is the classic case. Imagine for a moment you had a player that was immensely skilled that played with max effort. That's Bagley. He is the best player in every game he has played since middle school. He had a college scholarship at age 14. The Doncic supporters have to take a step back and see what we have in MBIII He will be the best King since CWebb.