Gerald Green??

[MassachusettsKingsFan]

/i havent herd anything as far as the kings go, but i know gerald recently asked to be traded.. i saw him play alot for the c's before the garnett deal and he was somewhat a dissapointment .. but the fact of the matter is that he is still very very young, loads of athletecism and potential.. right now all he can do is shoot the 3 and dunk. but the potential is deffinetly there.

what do you guys think? maybe we could even get that ratliff contract from them.. like i said i havent herd any talk but i'd like to see gerald here in sactown.

 

[kings20993]

Green is a stud

 

[VF21]

Color me skeptical but I'm sick and tired of seeing players asking to be traded. Those are, IMHO, the kinds of things you say privately to TPTB - not publicly. Aside from that, he's failed to live up to expectations all the way around and I think he's going to end up dropping off the NBA map like so many before him.

Green is a stud

???

Define stud.

 

[kings20993]

Color me skeptical but I'm sick and tired of seeing players asking to be traded. Those are, IMHO, the kinds of things you say privately to TPTB - not publicly. Aside from that, he's failed to live up to expectations all the way around and I think he's going to end up dropping off the NBA map like so many before him.



???

Define stud.

Gerald green

 

[VF21]

Oh, clever retort. And about as useless in promoting discussion as possible.

If you think Gerald Green is that good and could help the Kings, give reasons why.

 

[Arby's Roast Beef]

1) We don't need any more swingmen-type athletes on this team. This team already has Kevin Martin and Francisco Garcia, long lanky athletes of Gerald Green's mold, and his athleticism IMO is already supplied by Dahntay Jones, who as it is is barely seeing minutes right now. What makes you think that Green would see minutes here?

2) Green is still at the prospect mode, not the player mode. We're already cultivating some young guys here--Douby, Williams, and Hawes, for starters--so do we really need any more young players? I'd think that the target player, if there is one, is a veteran player who's not too old, but not too young. Green is 21. I'm looking at someone 27-28 who can contribute, not someone who's 21 and raw.

3) Green has been getting a bad rep in this league for a medley of things--hothead, narrow-minded, individualistic, inconsistent, and others. Clearly he still has a worlds of potential, but as VF21 said, there are many of his mold--Kedrick Brown, Qyntel Woods, and others--who have the same god-given tools who haven't panned out and are out of this league. The difference is that Green actually has a silky smooth jumpshot and ballhandling skills, but he's not receptive to coaching and unless he changes that, there isn't going to be a chance for him.

Conclusion: No to Gerald Green.

 

[kings20993]

Oh, clever retort. And about as useless in promoting discussion as possible.

If you think Gerald Green is that good and could help the Kings, give reasons why.

he is a 22 years old that can jump trough the roof and is a 40% three point shooter

 

[MassachusettsKingsFan]

just my opinion here of course, but i think gerald green has the POTENTIAL to be a better player then hawes,douby,garcia,jones and williams could potentially be...of course 'potential' can mean nothing but he has the most skill out of any of these players.. not to mention the only player younger is hawes.

 

[Mr. S£im Citrus]

Stromile Swift was a "stud," too.

The fact that Gerald Green can't get off the bench for the gawdawful Timberwolves tells me all I need to know about him.

 

[bajaden]

just my opinion here of course, but i think gerald green has the POTENTIAL to be a better player then hawes,douby,garcia,jones and williams could potentially be...of course 'potential' can mean nothing but he has the most skill out of any of these players.. not to mention the only player younger is hawes.

Let me see. One person said he was 21 yr's old, and another said he was 22 yr's old, and you said he was the only player younger than Hawes, who happens to be 19 yr's old. So that makes him 18 yr's old. So which is it. Im confused. This is one talented guy. Not only can he jump over tall buildings, and shoot the three while doing it, he can also change his age. I'm also impressed.

A quote from V. Lombardi ( I think ) " Potential means, you haven't done anything yet"...

 

[BuenoBeno]

Let me see. One person said he was 21 yr's old, and another said he was 22 yr's old, and you said he was the only player younger than Hawes, who happens to be 19 yr's old. So that makes him 18 yr's old. So which is it. Im confused. This is one talented guy. Not only can he jump over tall buildings, and shoot the three while doing it, he can also change his age. I'm also impressed.

A quote from V. Lombardi ( I think ) " Potential means, you haven't done anything yet"...

MassachussettsKingsFan was saying that if Greene was on the Kings team the only player younger then him would be Hawes-didn't said he was younger then Hawes.

 

[Bricklayer]

Gerlad Green remains interesting, just because people thought he had so much potential (and yet he really slipped in the draft....hmm...). Thing is, he plays the same positions as everybody else on our team (SG/SF).

 

[GeraldWallace#3]

Little known fact just thought Id say Gerald Green has 9 1/2 fingers.

 

[kings20993]

Little known fact just thought Id say Gerald Green has 9 1/2 fingers.

 

[Dime Dropper]

Little known fact just thought Id say Gerald Green has 9 1/2 fingers.

Yeah, that is true. Wouldn't worry about it, though. He's got as far as he has with only that amount, it takes nothing away from what he can become if he works hard. He has star potential.

Losing half a finger isn't much. I should know, it's happened to me (door slammed on my pinkie on my right hand, top came off - not pretty). Although, it was put together and I can say I have 10 fingers

Back on topic, though. Green has excellen potential, and there are few I wouldn't give to get him (Martin being probably the onle one). The Kings need young exciting guys with potential to better our future, Green would be an excellent aquisition. I don't think we have what it takes to get a deal done, though.

 

[Smills91]

Color me skeptical but I'm sick and tired of seeing players asking to be traded. Those are, IMHO, the kinds of things you say privately to TPTB - not publicly. Aside from that, he's failed to live up to expectations all the way around and I think he's going to end up dropping off the NBA map like so many before him.



???

Define stud.

Male Horse raised for breeding.

 

[ovrush]

Maybe MAYYYBE if we were thinking about sniffing the playoffs this is right... but we're not. The LAST thing we need is a bunch of 27-28 year olds who contribute now to a bad team and are old by the time we develop into a good team. This team needs piles and piles of prospects to hope several develop at once.

Also for those who will argue that if he can't see time in Minnesota then he can't play here I'm curious how many of you think Beno has turned out o.k. for us? he was CUT by Minnesota... so they may not quite be stellar at evaluating or maybe he just dosnt fit in there.

Also I went back and read the article where they said he was demanding a trade...all the quotes from Green I found to be refreshing, mature, and professional... seems like he may be the victim of an overzealous agent on this one.

Am I saying I think he's great... no. He's still redundant with the area where we actually have some talent...He's still a perpetual underacheiver...but at the right price he might be worth a flyer since at one point many tagged him a "special" talent and he is still young and could still develop into something special if handled and developed right.

 

[pkballr]

Little known fact just thought Id say Gerald Green has 9 1/2 fingers.

What a "shocker".

... I had to say it.

 

[Mr. S£im Citrus]

Also for those who will argue that if he can't see time in Minnesota then he can't play here I'm curious how many of you think Beno has turned out o.k. for us? he was CUT by Minnesota... so they may not quite be stellar at evaluating or maybe he just dosnt fit in there.

I'll grant you that you can put that on McHale, but not as a talent evaluating decision, simply as a "McHale has rocks in his head" decision... They didn't do a poor job of evaluating his talent because they didn't evaluate his talent. Minnesota traded for Udrih for one reason, and one reason only: to clear cap/roster space. As far as they were concerned, to paraphrase Barkley, he was signed to be waived.

Green, on the other hand, has had minutes in Minnesota, and hasn't performed. When you can't get off the bench on a good team, you can say that they don't know how to use you properly. When you can't get off the bench for a ****ty team like Minnesota, more often than not that means that you either can't play, or you have an attitude problem. Either way, as I said before, the fact that Gerald Green can't get off the bench for the gawdawful Timberwolves tells me all I need to know about him.

 

[Dime Dropper]

Either way, as I said before, the fact that Gerald Green can't get off the bench for the gawdawful Timberwolves tells me all I need to know about him.

Did you say the same about McGrady when his coach said he'd be out of the league in two years?


Look, Green is the type of player that can do no harm for the Kings. He may never turn into a starter, who knows, but he's still only 21 and has bundles of talent. Of course that means nothing if he can't develop, but we still need players like him if we are ever to start "rebuilding", which I don't think we will.

 

[Jespher]

I'll grant you that you can put that on McHale, but not as a talent evaluating decision, simply as a "McHale has rocks in his head" decision... They didn't do a poor job of evaluating his talent because they didn't evaluate his talent. Minnesota traded for Udrih for one reason, and one reason only: to clear cap/roster space. As far as they were concerned, to paraphrase Barkley, he was signed to be waived.

Green, on the other hand, has had minutes in Minnesota, and hasn't performed. When you can't get off the bench on a good team, you can say that they don't know how to use you properly. When you can't get off the bench for a ****ty team like Minnesota, more often than not that means that you either can't play, or you have an attitude problem. Either way, as I said before, the fact that Gerald Green can't get off the bench for the gawdawful Timberwolves tells me all I need to know about him.

Some players games are best suited to winning teams. Take Boris Diaw, when he was with the Hawks he barely sniffed the court, so he was easy to include in the Joe Johnson trade to the Suns. Then he became an overnight starter for a team challenging for a championship. And he didn't even have the physical gifts that a Green would bring. While the Kings are far from the Suns in regards to talent, they definately are not the recent Hawks, Last years Celtics, or the Timberwolves.

A Ron Artest and Kenny Thomas for Green and Ratliff trade works money wise. We would maintain the wing depth, promoting Salmons to the starting lineup, remove Ron's volitility, remove Kenny's presence, and bring in a large expiring contract that can block shots (2.6 blocks/game for his career). That would give us even more athleticism, and better shooting, and is addition by subtraction in getting a prospect and knocking two problem contracts off the books.

 

[MassachusettsKingsFan]

Did you say the same about McGrady when his coach said he'd be out of the league in two years?


Look, Green is the type of player that can do no harm for the Kings. He may never turn into a starter, who knows, but he's still only 21 and has bundles of talent. Of course that means nothing if he can't develop, but we still need players like him if we are ever to start "rebuilding", which I don't think we will.

if i remember correctly green was compared to tmac alot during draft time

 

[Mr. S£im Citrus]

Did you say the same about McGrady when his coach said he'd be out of the league in two years?

The Raptors weren't really a ****ty team when McGrady played there. Besides which, he wasn't buried underneath the bench like Green is in Minnesota, so the situations are not parallel.

 

[dude12]

Gerald Green is not a stud. Having mad hops does not make him a stud. Being able to hit the 3 on a consistent basis only does not make him a stud and its debatable that he can hit the 3 on any consistant basis. He does have a boat load of talent. He can not play anything close to NBA-quality defense. Artest in any deal for Green....no thanks. If Green found his way to the roster, ok fine, but I have some serious reservations about him blossoming. Just because he was compared to TMac doesn't mean he's going to be TMac. He potentially made a big mistake by coming out early if he doesn't have the mental capacity to work hard.....which has got to be one of the questions about him at this point.

When young guys like him are asking for a trade....no thank you....that should be a huge red flag!!

 

[Merdiesel]

/i havent herd anything as far as the kings go, but i know gerald recently asked to be traded.. i saw him play alot for the c's before the garnett deal and he was somewhat a dissapointment .. but the fact of the matter is that he is still very very young, loads of athletecism and potential.. right now all he can do is shoot the 3 and dunk. but the potential is deffinetly there.

what do you guys think? maybe we could even get that ratliff contract from them.. like i said i havent herd any talk but i'd like to see gerald here in sactown.

Yeah and already demanding trades like hes somebody...

No thanks, If I were the T-Wolves, I send his cry baby *** to the Knicks.

We don't need selfish cry babies like him. NO THANKS.

 

[hrdboild]

The T-Wolves might have the worst front office in the league. Just idiotic decisions one after another. Gerald Green should be asking for a trade. They're playing Toine and Jaric major minutes and going nowhere. Gerald Green is potentially the third best player on that team but we'll never know because they refuse to play him. I wouldn't mind taking a chance on his potential.

 

[ovrush]

Yeah and already demanding trades like hes somebody...

No thanks, If I were the T-Wolves, I send is cry baby *** to the Knicks.

We don't need selfish cry babies like him. NO THANKS.

http://www.boston.com/sports/basketball/celtics/articles/2008/01/26/green_wants_a_trade/

I just wanted to post this as someone who actually read the article. I'm by no means a Gerald Greene fan... but to clarify he asked for a trade when they didn't pick up the early option on his contract basically meaning they plan on cutting ties with him this summer. Sounds like he just wants to move on to the team he plans on being with next season.

If you take the time to read the quotes he sounds nothing like the "crybaby" or premadonna people have described in this post. He actually sounds mature, professional and driven.

Granted it's all posturing and even Ron sounds that way in interviws. I'm just saying we might be being a tad harsh in characterizing his personality without even taking the time to read the situation.

I wouldn't necessarily trade for the guy since we can't get picks to BUT if they are severing ties with him this summer he'd be a nice pickup if he can behad cheap.

 

[hammystyle]

Gerald Green stinks. He has tall and fast, but that's it. Whoever mentioned he shoots 40% from 3 neglected to mention he's shooting 33% overall. He's young and maybe he gets it together someday, most likely he doesn't, but where would he fit on a team where 4 out of the top 6 players are wings? He's not as good as Martin, Artest, Garcia, or Salmons. Not even close.

 

[VF21]

http://www.boston.com/sports/basketball/celtics/articles/2008/01/26/green_wants_a_trade/

I just wanted to post this as someone who actually read the article. I'm by no means a Gerald Greene fan... but to clarify he asked for a trade when they didn't pick up the early option on his contract basically meaning they plan on cutting ties with him this summer. Sounds like he just wants to move on to the team he plans on being with next season.

If you take the time to read the quotes he sounds nothing like the "crybaby" or premadonna people have described in this post. He actually sounds mature, professional and driven.

Granted it's all posturing and even Ron sounds that way in interviws. I'm just saying we might be being a tad harsh in characterizing his personality without even taking the time to read the situation.

I wouldn't necessarily trade for the guy since we can't get picks to BUT if they are severing ties with him this summer he'd be a nice pickup if he can behad cheap.

It looks like most of the article has quotes from Green's agent and we all know what bastions of truth they are...

The bottom line is that we're already glutted with guys who play his same position and are better than he is. We don't need any more of them. We had better be focusing on front court players at this point in time. We grab ANOTHER swing player of Green's caliber and I predict it will not be well received by a vast majority of Kings fans.

 

[=LarryLegend=]

I like green too, but how many mins do you think are in a game???

Salmons who cant jump as high...is waaaayyyy more talented.

and dont get me started about a Kmart vs. Gerald Green comparison

plus cisco is shooting 45% from three and alot better defender

plus jones and douby.

My answer althought I like him no