Of course we don't have a chance at All stars in FA. Never said that.
But there is a difference between the guys we signed and the guys the Pel's signed for example. We have guys on shortterm deals, while the Pel's bet on potential. The thing is, that the proven players we signed aren't better or worse than the players the Pel's signed and have no upside.
But there is a difference between the guys we signed and the guys the Pel's signed for example. We have guys on shortterm deals, while the Pel's bet on potential. The thing is, that the proven players we signed aren't better or worse than the players the Pel's signed and have no upside.
That's why the key word, which I notice you chose to ignore, is progress. If I were him, I wouldn't "count on plans and promises after years of struggle, blame and incompetence", either, but I would consider us making the playoffs two years in a row as a sign that the years of "struggle, blame and incompetence" might actually finally be behind me, and be more disposed to give the plans the benefit of the doubt than I would if I were coming off two more years in the lottery.
Agreed, we need to show progress. But the issue we will have two years from now is what motivates DeMarcus Cousins...
Money? If so, he might stay here because we can offer him the longest contract and highest sum; or, he might want to leave to a team with no state income tax because he might net more money depending on how everything works out on that front.
Compete for a championship? At that point he would need to believe in Vlade and this team, but even at that point, teams will try to turn his head. Aldridge left Portland after eight years despite Lillard beginning to ascend towards star status and them finishing as a top four seed. In his defense he joined San Antonio which gave him the opportunity to play for a great team, but at the same time, he left a top four seed with an ascending player like Lillard. If he can do that, then Cousins can always get his head turned even if we make progress in the next two years. Same for Durant. He got his head turned by Golden State. It happens.
That said, we have just got to enjoy the ride from here on out. From the looks of things Vlade is working hard to make us better now but also give us prospects that could be part of our long term future (with or without Cousins). I guess we just have to trust in Vlade to do what's best for this team, and then hope that Cousins re-signs with us and we go on to bigger and better things.
Money? If so, he might stay here because we can offer him the longest contract and highest sum; or, he might want to leave to a team with no state income tax because he might net more money depending on how everything works out on that front.
Compete for a championship? At that point he would need to believe in Vlade and this team, but even at that point, teams will try to turn his head. Aldridge left Portland after eight years despite Lillard beginning to ascend towards star status and them finishing as a top four seed. In his defense he joined San Antonio which gave him the opportunity to play for a great team, but at the same time, he left a top four seed with an ascending player like Lillard. If he can do that, then Cousins can always get his head turned even if we make progress in the next two years. Same for Durant. He got his head turned by Golden State. It happens.
That said, we have just got to enjoy the ride from here on out. From the looks of things Vlade is working hard to make us better now but also give us prospects that could be part of our long term future (with or without Cousins). I guess we just have to trust in Vlade to do what's best for this team, and then hope that Cousins re-signs with us and we go on to bigger and better things.
Jennings doesn't play defense. We aren't going to improve by adding more players that don't play D. Plus he's coming off an injury that changes careers. He's also terribly inefficient. If you're going to be inefficient, at least be able to stop guys on the other end to even things out.
Tolliver....I still have no words.
Tolliver....I still have no words.
Agree. Barnes has NO creativity as a scorer. He's very mechanical. He's like Ben in that regard, though he's bigger and more confident than Ben. If I am paying a guy max money I want him to be able to create his own shot. Barnes hasn't shown a lot of ability to do that. I do think his production will go up, only because his shot attempts will go up, but he's no better than an 18 PPG scorer without more one-on-one moves or post game, and I just don't see it. NOT a max guy.
You and me both. The comparison between the Hawks team and this new Kings roster is dubious because that team had NO personality near Boogie. He needs to supplicate his ego and agenda and tendency to turn games into one-on-one grudge match. The die-hards know to what I am referring. This is a concern of mine because a collection of team-oriented players does not include this egocentric mentality. Not once over 6 years has Boogie shown an ability to set aside his ego for the good of the team. I look forward to Team USA because this is opportunity for Boogie to play the right way, show off his new level of conditioning with carryover to the new season.
As much as all of us have focused on these off-season maneuverings, Boogie's mindset and approach, mentally and physically, is going to predicate our success as much as anything. I am confident Joerger can get his attitude adjusted accordingly then maybe there is hope. Then these milquetoast free agent signings will be secondary to success and more of the same.
You and me both. The comparison between the Hawks team and this new Kings roster is dubious because that team had NO personality near Boogie. He needs to supplicate his ego and agenda and tendency to turn games into one-on-one grudge match. The die-hards know to what I am referring. This is a concern of mine because a collection of team-oriented players does not include this egocentric mentality. Not once over 6 years has Boogie shown an ability to set aside his ego for the good of the team. I look forward to Team USA because this is opportunity for Boogie to play the right way, show off his new level of conditioning with carryover to the new season.
As much as all of us have focused on these off-season maneuverings, Boogie's mindset and approach, mentally and physically, is going to predicate our success as much as anything. I am confident Joerger can get his attitude adjusted accordingly then maybe there is hope. Then these milquetoast free agent signings will be secondary to success and more of the same.
Am I the only one that hates what the NBA has become? This make superteams business is pee weak. Can you imagine Magic Johnson asking Larry Bird to join him in LA? He would have been told to get his ass back to LA and would get a punch to the head for his troubles.
Whatever happened to working your ass off to get better and lead your team to the promised land? This "if you can't beat them, join them" mentality craps me!
Whatever happened to working your ass off to get better and lead your team to the promised land? This "if you can't beat them, join them" mentality craps me!
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Vertical Sources: Free agent center Zaza Pachulia has agreed to a one-year, $2.9M deal to sign with the Golden State Warriors.
Vertical Sources: Free agent center Zaza Pachulia has agreed to a one-year, $2.9M deal to sign with the Golden State Warriors.
