Four New Arena Proposals, courtesy of Sacramento Press

#4
As for "plans you can eliminate immediately", I tell you, I see any land-swap proposals, especially when they involve Cal Expo, as being DOA.

That dog has already hunted. It came back without a pheasant.

That's just calling it as I see it.

Both the Bee and the Sacramento Press have articles on this; notice that the one in the Press is significantly better than the one in the Bee. Why is that? I really don't know.
 
#6
To me, it's ICON or bust ... and I have some hope for ICON.

As for the others

4. Natomas. First, there is no way to fund anything out there. This plan calls for not just 10 million in rent, but 50% of all game day tickets going to funding. It would cost the Maloofs $35 million a year. Non-starter.

3. Core. Really, its the K street / Westfield plan all over again. Not only no funding, KJ wants this thing on the rail yard. Thus, to have any shot they resubmitted the same plan with a "possible" rail yard opition "if feasible." I don't think this can get done, but I don't think the board will vote for it anyhow.

2. Kamillos/Vision. He knocks $50 million off the estimate and trys to meld Vision Maker into the old Cal Expo plan (Cal Expo I - where they fix up the current location.) Therefore, he isn't pushing the fair out to Natomas, but he expects the Board to turn the updated fairground over to Vison Maker for 50 weeks out of the year. I have a good guess how they'll vote on that.

So that leads us to ICON.

Not only do they have Turner on board to do this the right way ... Inland is at the table. If they are just along for the ride ... well this is still a huge long shot. But the rail yards is moving along very slowly. Westfield on K is getting worse by the day. West Sac's river front project is moving along much faster. I think it would make a lot of sense for Inland to put some money into the project to make more money later. As opposed to just having a train station and bus stop next to the project, Inland raises the value of their own land a lot by helping put an arena there to draw people. How much is the question? Let's get crazy and put them in for 1/4 of the 400 million.

The Maloofs will drop in 300 million but it's rent not up front money. What the hell, between ICON not needing it up front and maybe getting a some of the Natomas land - we are putting the Kings down for a quarter of the cost. (They aren't paying more than 25%)

If they get this close, I think KJ might be able to come up with 100 million from the board. That's got to be the max, and it would have to be the last piece in ... but its possible.

They would need ICON to find a way to get it done for 400 and close that last 25% on their own. They probably get the city's land, a little Maloof land, and some profits from the arena and the redeveloping the land in Natomas.

Plus, they can use the state and fed funds that are needed for the rail, ect, that is part of this complex.

A lot of if's. If Inland stepped up with 25%, and ICON nailed down 25%, and they found a way to get the Maloofs in for 25%, KJ might be able to get this home. Thus, I have a little hope here.

If any of those four wheels fall off ... game over. But I think there is some reason for hope. We've been looking for a 3rd party to get 50% of this done. Maybe ICON and Inland can team up to do it. To me the biggest question is whether Inland is "on board" but hoping the city will agree to pay 50% or more with Inland not paying for an arena they won't directly profit from or is Inland willing to drop a lot of seed money into the arena trying to make it back on the land they already own? Maybe they would do that ... if so, there is some reason to hope. If not, I don't see how ICON does 50% when nobody else could pencil that out over 11 years.
 
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#7
Reading the letter from IA Sacramento holdings (new Railyard owner) to Taylor & ICON, they have zero interest in any finance for the proposed arena according to the last paragraph. Again we have another player who wants to benefit from the presence of an arena, but wants no risk.

Pray for a very long NBA lockout.
 
#8
Reading the letter from IA Sacramento holdings (new Railyard owner) to Taylor & ICON, they have zero interest in any finance for the proposed arena according to the last paragraph. Again we have another player who wants to benefit from the presence of an arena, but wants no risk.

Pray for a very long NBA lockout.
Ugh. I didn't see that. Then, I think the board will vote for the big fancy ICON package and it probably can't be funded. Great.
 
#9
Larry,

Your deductive and coherent reasoning is spot on. All of these "developer teams" are nothing but hired hands who play with OPM i.e. other people's money and put some into their pockets. None of these "first round draft picks" have solved the fundamental problem of what is the source of repayment for the $50M annual debt service on a $500M arena project? It's all smoke and mirrors hoping to get to a point where the mayor can go back on his "no taxpayer impact" pledge and say if we don't do this with public funds now the Kings are gone. I offered an alternative equity raising plan and was buried by the taskforce, ignored by the media, ignored by the Maloofs and now having submitted additional information to the taskforce thinking my plan was still being considered finding out I'm being dismissed once again. My plea for Kings fans to "Make Some Noise" was also ignored. I'm not afraid of public scrutiny and debate as to the merits of my plan. Perhaps it's being ignored because the powers that be think it's a good idea but messes up their downtown dreams. I will not go quietly into the night. The public is not stupid and they need to know there is another plan out there that has been purposefully buried.
 
#10
To me, it's ICON or bust ... and I have some hope for ICON.
Yup, that's the way I see it too...KJ is fed up with Kamilos' antics at this point after the Cal Expo fiasco, and unless he sees $$$ up front from all of his would be investors, I doubt they vote for him again.I think David Taylor is the only one that gets anything done in this city. Now...that being said, not even HE has taken on a beast like this in the past. IF he succeeds with his plan at some point, he will be the greatest man to ever walk the streets of Sacramento...ANY part of Sacramento!

edit: I still love how the Bee and all other media outlets say 'Kings arena'...yes, they will be a major occupant for 41 nights a year...but there's 314 other days during the year they wont! This arena is MORE than the Kings, it's more than what our narrowminded NIMBY's are broadcasting on other forums...it's about Sacramento's growth as a city, and FINALLY getting rid of it's MAJOR inferiority complex it's had since the Anne Rudin years, that Heather Fargo helped harvest even further in her 8 years in office. Sacramento IS NOT a little sleepy cowtown anymore and HASNT been since the mid 80's! Why shouldn't the CAPITOL of the WORLD's 9th largest economy have a vibrant downtown?? FYI, on another Downtown related note...I talked with the Project Manager of the new Dive Bar/Pizza Rock/District 30 complex almost open on the 1000 block of K St., and asked him what was going in the old Rite Aid/Woolworth's building, and he said a Lucky Strike bowling alley...that's GREAT news for Downtown and K St.
 
#12
http://www.sacramentopress.com/headline/42877/Four_teams_vie_for_arena_project

If I'm handicapping, I'd go with ICON-Taylor. It's interesting to note, though, that the NBA is not backing any of the proposals.
The NBA not backing any of the proposals is old news. When the land swap failed, they announced that they wouldn't be backing any proposals but would instead leave it up to the Maloofs. That doesn't necessarily mean that all these proposals are DOA. The pessmist in me says that the winning proposal won't get past the lockout. Some wheel will fall off but that's just the pessimist in me talking due to how this arena process has gone down for the past decade. But the NBA's lack of involvement this time is irrelevant.
 
#13
At this point the NBA knows they are irrelevant. They did a great deal and they know all the issues. At this point all that matters is whether the city and their citizens can back a plan and get it done. Simple as that. Its really up to Sacramento. (The team ownership, too, but by themselves it can't be done.)