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We land the #3 pick (Russel).

Washington, after losing Wall to a broken hand for the season, is looking to change things up, get younger and stay in the NBA playoffs in 15/16.

We send: Russel, Stauskas, Moreland, Thompson, a future unprotected 2020/21 pick and a 2nd rounder in the year following

Washington sends: Wall and Gortat

Wall and Boogie reunited, still have our starting wings and a decent but expensive PF to play next to boogie. Sure we all like depth, but stars (and offense) win 'ships and we need a legit 3rd star.

I like this scenario because getting as deep as we were probably isn't gonna happen until the cap spike, but remember it spikes for the rest of the league as well.

Does Wahsington do this? Never, but a man can dream.
 
Would I love to have Wall reunited with Boogie on the Kings? Absolutely. In fact my big fear is that the Kings FO keeps screwing around and Cousins ultimately forces his way to Washington. But what I think will really happen is the Wizards will get knocked out of the playoffs this round and go into the offseason thinking that with a healthy John Wall they are real contenders. Absolutely no reason to tear that down.

Of course the other issue is that (1) Cousins and Gortat are a bad fit in a starting lineup together and (2) they hate each other.

Paulsen: DeMarcus Cousins is a scary guy — he’s 23 and he’s built like a tractor-trailer — you were going toe-to-toe with him. You were shouting at him from the bench, you had to be separated from him after the game. Were you just trying to get into his head? You wouldn’t have actually tried to throw down with DeMarcus Cousins would you?

Gortat: Well, let’s put it this way. I have two guys on my list, definitely, and he will be high on my list. Definitely.

Paulsen: This is your hit list for when fighting’s allowed in basketball?

Gortat: That’s the list of people I don’t like. Let’s put it this way.

Paulsen: DeMarcus Cousins cracks the list.

Danny: We may be able to cross Sacramento off that list of possible destinations [teams Gortat, a free agent after this season, would consider signing with].

Paulsen: Does that go back before that one game?

Gortat: Oh yea. Oh yea. Definitely.
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Washington will be thrilled to get future unprotected 2020/21 pick for their superstar, at least give them the earliest Kings can at 2019. :rolleyes:
Funny you should mention "but stars (and offense) win 'ships", when Wall figured defensive side of the game much earlier, than offensive.
 
They're not trading Wall.

Gortat hates Cousins (the feeling is probably mutual), but the issue would be quickly resolved if they ended up on the same team. Competitiveness on the court does not = getting on off the court. Pretty sure they would get along pretty well actually, given both of their personalities. But yeah, no love lost on the court.
 
Why stop there send Ben/gay/futur 2nd for lebron and irving. If they loose the 2nd round and love leaves it works right

Wall
Irving
Lebron
Cousins



As realistic as Washington trading wall when ****ing durant is more probable than not to go there next year.



See what I did there that makes it fact.
 
Dream scenario for me:

1. Nik for Splitter

2. Ben/6/Moreland/ future 2nds for chandler/Gallanri

3. Give Bellanelli full mid level ex.
4. Fire PDA.

Collison/Ray
Chandler/Bellanelli
Gay/Gallo
Splitter/JT
Cousins
 
Where's Landry? Actually doesn't matter, money wouldn't work anyway. Gallo is massively overqualified/overpaid to be a bencher. Chandler is too slow to be a full time SG - bulked up too much to play 4.
Splitter has absolutely no range - would push Boogie out/make him a jumpshooter. JT is not a good shooter, but he's at least somewhat respected, that's why it worked with DMC/JT as bigs.
 
Dream scenario:
  1. Lakers lose their pick to the Sixers
  2. Kings win the lottery
  3. Kings trade #1 for #3 and #6
  4. Kings draft DeAngelo Russell
  5. Kings draft Cauley-Stein
  6. Kings trade Stauskas, Landry, and lower 2016 pick protection for Gibson
  7. Kings sign Khris Middleton
  8. Kings sign Omri Casspi to room exception
  9. Kings sign Andre Miller to vet min
  10. Kings sign Hedo Turkoglu to vet min
  11. Kings sign Cole Aldrich to vet min
New roster:
PG - Collison/Russell/McCallum/Miller
SG - Middleton/McLemore
SF - Gay/Casspi/Turkoglu
PF - Gibson/Cauley-Stein/Moreland
C - Cousins/Thompson/Aldrich

Veteran starting unit that compliments each other everywhere you look with an up and coming bench who has some players that can develop into better players than the current starters.
 
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Gilles said:
Where's Landry? Actually doesn't matter, money wouldn't work anyway. Gallo is massively overqualified/overpaid to be a bencher. Chandler is too slow to be a full time SG - bulked up too much to play 4.
Splitter has absolutely no range - would push Boogie out/make him a jumpshooter. JT is not a good shooter, but he's at least somewhat respected, that's why it worked with DMC/JT as bigs.
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We can swap Landry for a reincarnated baby of Moses Malone.
 
twslam07 said:
Dream scenario:
  1. Lakers lose their pick to the Sixers
  2. Kings win the lottery
  3. Kings trade #1 for #3 and #6
  4. Kings draft DeAngelo Russell
  5. Kings draft Cauley-Stein
  6. Kings trade Stauskas, Landry, and lower 2016 pick protection for Gibson
  7. Kings sign Khris Middleton
  8. Kings sign Omri Casspi to room exception
  9. Kings sign Andre Miller to vet min
  10. Kings sign Hedo Turkoglu to vet min
  11. Kings sign Cole Aldrich to vet min
New roster:
PG - Collison/Russell/McCallum/Miller
SG - Middleton/McLemore
SF - Gay/Casspi/Turkoglu
PF - Gibson/Cauley-Stein/Moreland
C - Cousins/Thompson/Aldrich

Veteran starting unit that compliments each other everywhere you look with an up and coming bench who has some players that can develop into better players than the current starters.
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Plausible as well. Would do it in a heartbeat. But would we still take WCS? We are pretty set at D upgront with Boogie, Taj and JT. A stretch 4 such as Porzingas/Turner maybe, Turner would also help contribute to rim protection if he ever found the floor.
 
Gilles said:
Sauce shouldn't be a rotation player next year on a team, that wants to get into POs in the West.
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I like him as a 5th guard. He is on a Rookie deal and I don't see a lot of trade value until he develops a little more.

In general I think the Kings are going to need a couple of young guys to contribute. Most up and coming teams have young guys that play a role.

As far as Playoffs well I hope so, but lets temper this as Kings Fans who have just watched a 29 win debacle of a season with Jim Mora:

 
twslam07 said:
Dream scenario:
  1. Lakers lose their pick to the Sixers
  2. Kings win the lottery
  3. Kings trade #1 for #3 and #6
  4. Kings draft DeAngelo Russell
  5. Kings draft Cauley-Stein
  6. Kings trade Stauskas, Landry, and lower 2016 pick protection for Gibson
  7. Kings sign Khris Middleton
  8. Kings sign Omri Casspi to room exception
  9. Kings sign Andre Miller to vet min
  10. Kings sign Hedo Turkoglu to vet min
  11. Kings sign Cole Aldrich to vet min
New roster:
PG - Collison/Russell/McCallum/Miller
SG - Middleton/McLemore
SF - Gay/Casspi/Turkoglu
PF - Gibson/Cauley-Stein/Moreland
C - Cousins/Thompson/Aldrich

Veteran starting unit that compliments each other everywhere you look with an up and coming bench who has some players that can develop into better players than the current starters.
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This is an amazing scenario. I think we probably would need to clear more cap space for Middleton, but honestly with a team like that, I wouldn't mind if we didn't have Middleton. I really like WCS, but I wonder if we get Gibson, would we still draft WCS? That sounds like a weird question, but no way WCS gets more than 15mpg behind Gibson. Would that 6th pick be much more valuable elsewhere? Should we draft a player with a higher upside? Winslow, Hezonja, Porzingis, and etc?
This would be a great problem to have.
 
You would need to kidnap at least one daughter of Bucks' owner for them not to match Middleton.

Guys like Aldrich or Turk won't change their current situations, since Kings can't offer them bigger roles or money, than they had this season. Why would they leave NY/LA?

And Kings should absolutely get WCS, even if they trade for Taj - there are injuries, foul trouble and team can easily keep Willie at under 20 mpg first couple of years as every rookie will go through adjustment time. Even freshmen, who start putting up stats quickly, are not ready for winning basketball yet - it's all about minimizing mistakes, not maximizing production for PO teams.
 
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To wake up from the nightmare that's been the last 8-9 years of Kings basketball
 
Otto Porter was injured as a rookie and became a contributor due to his defense. Yeah, same situation here.
And my post actually referred to the idea, that Kings must at least have another guy capable of taking backup SG minutes, if Sauce is not ready, which Wizards did.
 
Russell Westbrook! The man is a beast. OKC doesn't know it yet, but they are done. Rookie coach from the ncaa, injury plagued season, high expectations with poor results... And something tells me they will have to pick one of Durant or Westbrook. Those two just don't mesh on offense or maybe Brooks was just that bad a coach. Regardless, if we land the first pick go get Westbrook! OKC would have a hard time saying no if they could get Towns.
 
Gilles said:
Otto Porter was injured as a rookie and became a contributor due to his defense. Yeah, same situation here.
And my post actually referred to the idea, that Kings must at least have another guy capable of taking backup SG minutes, if Sauce is not ready, which Wizards did.
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How about Austin Rivers?
Playing in the NBA has a lot to do with opportunity and trust from teammates and coaches. There are so many players that turned their careers around. You just dont give up on a Youngster that early as long as he works his tail of to get better.
 
Not giving up on a prospect and relying on him to play a significant role as a sophomore after an underwhelming season are two very different things.
 
We won't land a top 3 pick. We'll end up with #7. The lottery balls haven't been kind to us in like forever. Why would they start now?
 
Gilles said:
Not giving up on a prospect and relying on him to play a significant role as a sophomore after an underwhelming season are two very different things.
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In order to develop a young player needs playing time. We could bury Stauskas at the end of the bench or send him to the D-League and aquire a veteran SG. But this would mean, that we basically wasted a lottery pick once again. No above average veteran will sign a short term deal for the Kings. So basically when we aquire a FA, the contract would be for at least 2 to 3 seasons. 2 to 3 years where Stauskas wouldn't get hardly any opportunity besides practices, D-league and garbage time.
This is the way you treat players, from whom you don't expect hardly any contribution and development. You don't treat a lottery pick that way in his second season. Most likely there are reasons, why Stauskas was drafted that high. It's up to the Kings to help him, to contribute for this team. If he doesn't show any development, or there are off-court issues, we can still sign someone to come of the bench.
Better focus on the biggest need of this team, the starting PF-position, and to finally show some patience with our prospects and work on their skillset. We just can't afford to waste any draftpicks.
 
PO teams are not allocating PT for projects. You either produce, or you sit. There are always injuries, foul trouble and just plain ineffectiveness of players ahead on the depth chart, i.e. opportunities. Guys like Jimmy Butler, Khris Middleton or Draymond Green were buried deep on the benches, but players ahead of them became unavailable, and they pounced on their chances.
Where Nik was drafted is mostly irrelevant at this point, unless FO is trying to sell him to another team and use it as an argument. Kings should evaluate, who they actually drafted, now that they have observed Nik for a year. If they think, he can become a guy worth significantly more than MLE, they should absolutely do everything they can to speed up his development, but he gets time, only when he's ready or there's no one else better available. You can't prevent talent with excellent determination from developing. If it takes him half a season longer, then so be it.
 
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