Draft Thread

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Just a bug report post.
 
Kings Fan Gerard said:
Which NBA player is most similar to T-Rob?
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Body wise and energy wise, I always thought TRob is like a taller Dennis Rodman, with much better offensive skill. Both very quick, very explosive, lean, muscular, with ridiculous wing span but when you see them on TV, they look more like small forwards than power forwards. TRob has the talent to lead the league in rebounds, like Rodman.

I'm fine with this pick. I like everything about TRob except for the fact that he is not a shot blocker.
 
ESP47 said:
I can't believe some of you guys are so pessimistic. It's a god send that a player like Robinson fell to us. He wasn't even on my radar because I thought for sure that he would be taken at 2.

We just drafted a team cornerstone for years and you guys are mad that we didn't get an SF with a couple attributes that we need? Sure that would have been nice but we got a more important player. We are going to have two physical beasts underneath the hoop, snatching up rebounds and throwing down high percentage FG's.

One thing we really struggled with was FG% last year and Robinson will definitely bump that up. I wish he was more of a shotblocker but no player out there was complete other than the guy that went #1.

If we can make a trade for a SF that would be awesome. If not then lets get these two monsters their chemistry this year and then grab a SF next year and start contending.
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He's not going to bump our FG% very far unless again he's munching shots. Otherwise you are putting a guy who shot 50% in college into the lineup in place of a guy (Jason) who shot 52% for us last year in the pros. But he should hopefully shoot better than Hickson or Hayes, so we'll get whatever that bump i assuming both he and JT are on the roster.

And for the millionth time Sacramento fans, THE thing we have struggled with for oh, almost a decade now, is DEFENSE. D-E-F-E-N-S-E. As in worst in the league last year defense. I'll cross my fingers and hope Robinson can at least hold his own and maybe do better than that on that end, but he wasn't one fo the defensive game changers in the draft, adn we are too far gone for one solid defender to make much of an impact. Consider the bulk of his minutes will come from minutes that last year went to JT, Chuck Hayes, and Whiteside. How many points better do you think his defense is truly gonig to be than those guys? On the other hand, the defensive rebounding will be welcome. Cousins is a tremendous rebounder, but he's better on offense than defense.
 
Austin Rivers going to New Orleans.

I don't know how he fits in with Eric Gordon.
Gordon is the much better passer, but Rivers has no PG instincts at all...so...we'll see how it plays out.

Anthony Davis is going to make that franchise good...I don't know how much Rivers will help.

I wonder when Lamb gets picked...as he's the best SG left on the board.
 
hrdboild said:
So in the past week Givony has had us trading Tyreke for a bag of potato chips and then told us our draft pick hates the team. Wonderful. We should send him a card.
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Givony has always had a real burr in his saddle about Reke more than the Kings. He missed on Reke, and the little geek has an inflated ego and can't deal.
 
Robinson will have to move back to the role he played his sophomore year for Kansas. Cleaning defensive glass should be his main contribution. He's very mobile so he should be fine on defense eventually.
 
Portland with a good big man pick-up in Leonard to pair with LeMarcus Aldridge.
So Portland goes small with PG lillard and big with Leonard.

Will be interesting to see if these two players are able to develop. If they can re-sign Batum, they have all the pieces to have a successful roster.
 
Bricklayer said:
He's not going to bump our FG% very far unless again he's munching shots. Otherwise you are putting a guy who shot 50% in college into the lineup in place of a guy (Jason) who shot 52% for us last year in the pros. But he should hopefully shoot better than Hickson or Hayes, so we'll get whatever that bump i assuming both he and JT are on the roster.

And for the millionth time Sacramento fans, THE thing we have struggled with for oh, almost a decade now, is DEFENSE. D-E-F-E-N-S-E. As in worst in the league last year defense. I'll cross my fingers and hope Robinson can at least hold his own and maybe do better than that on that end, but he wasn't one fo the defensive game changers in the draft, adn we are too far gone for one solid defender to make much of an impact. Consider the bulk of his minutes will come from minutes that last year went to JT, Chuck Hayes, and Whiteside. How many points better do you think his defense is truly gonig to be than those guys? On the other hand, the defensive rebounding will be welcome. Cousins is a tremendous rebounder, but he's better on offense than defense.
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I don't even know how to respond to you anymore. You're so full of yourself and your opinion that you're bashing a gift from god pick in T-Rob. Judging from your posts, you think he's a offensively selfish player who is a liability defensively. Which is absolutely the furthest thing from the truth.

One question though. Would you rather have Dalembert or Thomas Robinson?
 
Bricklayer said:
He's not going to bump our FG% very far unless again he's munching shots. Otherwise you are putting a guy who shot 50% in college into the lineup in place of a guy (Jason) who shot 52% for us last year in the pros. But he should hopefully shoot better than Hickson or Hayes, so we'll get whatever that bump i assuming both he and JT are on the roster.

And for the millionth time Sacramento fans, THE thing we have struggled with for oh, almost a decade now, is DEFENSE. D-E-F-E-N-S-E. As in worst in the league last year defense. I'll cross my fingers and hope Robinson can at least hold his own and maybe do better than that on that end, but he wasn't one fo the defensive game changers in the draft, adn we are too far gone for one solid defender to make much of an impact. Consider the bulk of his minutes will come from minutes that last year went to JT, Chuck Hayes, and Whiteside. How many points better do you think his defense is truly gonig to be than those guys? On the other hand, the defensive rebounding will be welcome. Cousins is a tremendous rebounder, but he's better on offense than defense.
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If they play Hayes on Jefferson when we play him there will be an effect. If they play him on Aldridge there will be an effect. If they play him on Griffin every time there will be an effect. Robinson and Hayes could be the best PF shutdown combo in the league. BUT! I agree with you, the team had obvious weaknesses in other aspects of the game and didn't fill them at all.
 
Bricklayer said:
He's not going to bump our FG% very far unless again he's munching shots. Otherwise you are putting a guy who shot 50% in college into the lineup in place of a guy (Jason) who shot 52% for us last year in the pros. But he should hopefully shoot better than Hickson or Hayes, so we'll get whatever that bump i assuming both he and JT are on the roster.

And for the millionth time Sacramento fans, THE thing we have struggled with for oh, almost a decade now, is DEFENSE. D-E-F-E-N-S-E. As in worst in the league last year defense. I'll cross my fingers and hope Robinson can at least hold his own and maybe do better than that on that end, but he wasn't one fo the defensive game changers in the draft, adn we are too far gone for one solid defender to make much of an impact. Consider the bulk of his minutes will come from minutes that last year went to JT, Chuck Hayes, and Whiteside. How many points better do you think his defense is truly gonig to be than those guys? On the other hand, the defensive rebounding will be welcome. Cousins is a tremendous rebounder, but he's better on offense than defense.
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I was hoping for Lowry. Maybe we get him next week for MT, which I'd do. We do need defense and more than one impact defender. I am worried about our defense down low, but will say TRob is a pretty good man defender. I still say this means good bye to JT, and our 3rd big needs to be a defender/shotblocker/intimidator. The way it could work with TRob is to go out and get an AK or GW. With TRob/Cuz downlow, right now our best plan going forward is to cut off penetration from the perimeter, so we need player X/Tyreke/player X. This pick puts much emphasis on top notch defenders at the 1,2 and 3 for me, and means IT/MT can longer start.

If we were to get Lowry and a defensive SF, than I'm not as worried about our defensive up front as again, TRob is a good man defender. We also need a defensive presence as a 3rd big without a doubt. Petrie can make this a good pick, or a poor one, depending on how the first two weeks in July go.
 
For what it's worth, I love the pick because I think Robinson was clearly BPA, and he can form the basis of a fantastic, physical frontcourt for many years. But for this to be a successful off-season, we can't just stand pat. We need a defensive SF, even if that means moving Thornton. We also need a shotblocker, preferably as the third big off the bench. That's unlikely now given our roster make-up, but hopefully we trade for one in the short-term.

This pick wasn't a perfect fit, but it's not terrible either. Robinson will be a good defender. He has the quickness, hands, work ethic and strength to be much better than average. But he's obviously not that elusive shotblocker, and we need one.
 
Houston wanted the #2 also. Maybe the had an eye on Robinson and us taking him just sweetened the deal for us. Maybe we get Lowry and all 3 picks. see if houston selects Harkless here.
 
The_Jamal said:
I don't even know how to respond to you anymore. You're so full of yourself and your opinion that you're bashing a gift from god pick in T-Rob. Judging from your posts, you think he's a offensively selfish player who is a liability defensively. Which is absolutely the furthest thing from the truth.

One question though. Would you rather have Dalembert or Thomas Robinson?
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Bricks posts are normally a bit pessimistic ;) Best to read the wonderful stats and analysis he posts and try not to respond to strategy related areas :)
 
I took this excerpt from NBADraft.net's scouting report on T-Rob. If he lives up to that assessment in the NBA, he's a great fit defensively san shot blocking. But we have Whiteside who can do that and maybe, just maybe they'll go get a veteran SF that can do it also.

Strengths: Has all the tools to defend his position at a high level in the NBA ... Despite not being a very intimidating shot-blocker, he has been an effective defender against post-up situations ... Moves his feet well enough to stay in front of the more mobile power forwards in the NBA ... Hard worker that has improved noticeably every year at school ...
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Anybody think Houston, having (apparently) failed on the Howard attempt, might deal something like #18 for Hayes? Maybe we drop some salary and take a look at Harkless?
 
Really good pick-up by Houston selecting Jeremy Lamb.

I think this means that Kevin Martin is gone from Houston, as Lamb is going to come in to be his replacement.

I think Houston got lucky having Lamb dropping all the way down to 12.
 
Dime Dropper said:
Ignore it. For some reason, Givony really hates the Kings. I don't know why, but it's bizarre. He regularly takes cheap shots at us and has got lots wrong in the past. Really doubt it's true. Someone should call him out on his BS.
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My goodnes Givony. Robinson was trying to hold himself together. No one knows what he was thinking except I'd be inclined to think that he was overjoyed at the culmination of all his work. Pissed? I didn't see it because he was crying but could see how it would be interpreted as that ESPECIALLY if you don't like the Kings.
 
Anyone who is questioning us getting T-Rob is crazy. He dropped to us like a gift. Hes a legit 6'9 with long wingspan and is a freak athlete, with a great motor. Think of him as a slightly less athletic Blake Griffin with better skill, and basketball instincts.
 
Capt. Factorial said:
Anybody think Houston, having (apparently) failed on the Howard attempt, might deal something like #18 for Hayes? Maybe we drop some salary and take a look at Harkless?
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Yep if I were Petrie I would be calling everyone to see if there was anything we could give up to get another 1st round pick. We have to address the SF position this off-season...and there are still good SFs on the board.f
 
Bricklayer said:
He's not going to bump our FG% very far unless again he's munching shots. Otherwise you are putting a guy who shot 50% in college into the lineup in place of a guy (Jason) who shot 52% for us last year in the pros. But he should hopefully shoot better than Hickson or Hayes, so we'll get whatever that bump i assuming both he and JT are on the roster.

And for the millionth time Sacramento fans, THE thing we have struggled with for oh, almost a decade now, is DEFENSE. D-E-F-E-N-S-E. As in worst in the league last year defense. I'll cross my fingers and hope Robinson can at least hold his own and maybe do better than that on that end, but he wasn't one fo the defensive game changers in the draft, adn we are too far gone for one solid defender to make much of an impact. Consider the bulk of his minutes will come from minutes that last year went to JT, Chuck Hayes, and Whiteside. How many points better do you think his defense is truly gonig to be than those guys? On the other hand, the defensive rebounding will be welcome. Cousins is a tremendous rebounder, but he's better on offense than defense.
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Robinson can play defense... Did you not know this?

Chuck Hayes man defense
JTs rebounding
Athleticism out the yazoo
great head on his shoulders.. \

What more could you want?

Who were you wanting at #5? Drummond? lol
 
This is outrageous and makes no sense as to the Kings needs but now I want us to work a trade for Henson. Yeah, yeah, throw the bricks this way. :) I can want what I want.

Perhaps a little trade for a SF needs to occur before the summer is over. (returning to sanity) Free agent AK47 anyone.
 
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Jeremy Lamb to Houston... Does it mean Kevin Martin is going to be traded? Anyways, I don't think this is a pick made for us, or at least I hope so. Maybe the trade with Houston is definitely dead.
 
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