DRAFT PICK discussion thread

[Gguod]

Because Skal is so dominant? Willie can’t shoot a 3. We have lots of holes.

Because we have invested four 1st round picks on that position in the last three years. Because we invested 24mil/2years to that position in free agency last year. Because that position is the easiest to find cheap quality production

 

[Blob]

BOO

 

[dude12]

Musa off the board

 

[Blob]

Who else is left who plays on the wing?

 

[206Fan]

wowers, the draft feels like it's getting longer and longer. Brooklyn announcment surpassed by 3-4mins.

 

[sactowndog]

That's one person's opinion, correct?

No that’s was the concern from the NBA people I talked to. I’m hoping he does better but it’s a valid concern.

 

[Capt. Factorial]

Who else is left who plays on the wing?

Keita Bates-Diop?

 

[roasthawg]

Or is it just you disagreeing? 04-05 Suns won 62 games and got to conference finals, 05-06 without Amare they won 54 games and got to conference finals, 06-07 they won 61 games and got to conference semi finals.

Bro look what you just typed... They were 15 games better with Amare over those two seasons. +8 games in 05 and +7 games in 07. Then, just to drive the point home as to his value, they lost another 14 games with him in 2010.

 

[SacTownKid]

Keita Bates-Diop?

He's a small ball 4 if you ask me. He just doesn't have the athletic ability to guard 3's.

 

[Double-K]

No that’s was the concern from the NBA people I talked to. I’m hoping he does better but it’s a valid concern.

I see... are those people in the league? I simply didn't know you have direct connection for such info.

 

[sactowndog]

Because we have invested four 1st round picks on that position in the last three years. Because we invested 24mil/2years to that position in free agency last year. Because that position is the easiest to find cheap quality production

What we did in the draft previously is irrelevant to what we need today. Water under the bridge.

 

[Gguod]

Bro look what you just typed... They were 15 games better with Amare over those two seasons. +8 games in 05 and +7 games in 07. Then, just to drive the point home as to his value, they lost another 14 games with him in 2010.

No difference in playoff succes with or without him, still easily +50 win team without Amare. To me that proves that Nash is the major force behind that team with Marion and Amare helping

 

[206Fan]

He's a small ball 4 if you ask me. He just doesn't have the athletic ability to guard 3's.

I think he's got the lateral quickness to guard the KD, George, Kawhi, etc. He's not going to be able to guard SG/SF wings, but he'll be fine guarding legitimate SFs.

 

[Gguod]

What we did in the draft previously is irrelevant to what we need today. Water under the bridge.

Unless we assume this Fo is so ass at drafting that we dont need to even think about last drafts, our heavy investments in one position should count on something especially if its the least "valuable" position

 

[Capt. Factorial]

Don't sleep on Jarred Vanderbilt

 

[206Fan]

Don't sleep on Jarred Vanderbilt

can't shoot, not interested.

 

[sactowndog]

I see... are those people in the league? I simply didn't know you have direct connection for such info.

They are all opinions. No one was a sure thing in this draft, including Ayton and Luka. A number had some transcendent generational attributes but areas of real concern.

In our case we doubled down on athletic guys who don’t play great defense. Let’s hope Fox and Bagely grow together.

 

[SacTownKid]

I think he's got the lateral quickness to guard the KD, George, Kawhi, etc. He's not going to be able to guard SG/SF wings, but he'll be fine guarding legitimate SFs.

I don't know about that. He looks like Kevon Looney to me and he didn't fair that well guarding wings either.

 

[Double-K]

They are all opinions. No one was a sure thing in this draft, including Ayton and Luka. A number had some transcendent generational attributes but areas of real concern.

In our case we doubled down on athletic guys who don’t play great defense. Let’s hope Fox and Bagely grow together.

One thing I'll say about athletic guys who aren't great at defense, though, is that they already have the advantage to get better, easier due to their gifted athleticism.

Plus the current NBA, it's more about team defense.

 

[Jkbiker]

Marvin Fraiser SF or Carter PG?

 

[roasthawg]

No difference in playoff succes with or without him, still easily +50 win team without Amare. To me that proves that Nash is the major force behind that team with Marion and Amare helping

Dude Amare was single handedly worth 29 wins over those three seasons. If a guy is worth almost ten wins a season that's huge. Nash was the best player on that team, no doubt about it. We're talking about the value of Amare though as he compares well to Bagley. 10 wins a year is huge.

 

[sactowndog]

Unless we assume this Fo is so ass at drafting that we dont need to even think about last drafts, our heavy investments in one position should count on something especially if its the least "valuable" position

Skal and WCS have had multiple years. And a long athletic big is not a least valuable position. All depends if his shooting develops. Sounds a lot like Fox doesn’t it.

 

[sactowndog]

One thing I'll say about athletic guys who aren't great at defense, though, is that they already have the advantage to get better, easier due to their gifted athleticism.

Plus the current NBA, it's more about team defense.

Yep but team defense takes defensive IQ. Let’s hope.

 

[Jkbiker]

Crap!! Carter Gone

 

[kingdivac]

Yes I feel the mild disappointment of not rolling the dice with Doncic as some have expressed. But more so, I have blah first impressions of Bagley in the tourney this year vs Syracuse and Kansas.

As usual will have to wait and see.....

 

[twslam07]

Diop, Bonga

 

[Gguod]

Skal and WCS have had multiple years. And a long athletic big is not a least valuable position. All depends if his shooting develops. Sounds a lot like Fox doesn’t it.

Center is a position where its easiest to find cheap quality production. That makes it the least valuable position

 

[Jkbiker]

Diop and Fraiser last two SF

 

[PurpleHaze]

http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Kostas-Antetokounmpo-89564/

 

[fnordius]

I'm going to interject with a neutral comment here... for whatever reasons, the number crunchers liked Bagley a lot. I don't know how much to expect from their data sets and methods yet, but I found that interesting, and I wouldn't be shocked if it influenced this draft, and Sac's pick in particular. One example of three that I read: https://fivethirtyeight.com/feature...rs-in-the-nba-draft-according-to-my-computer/