DMC tells Bee he "feels lost"

I remember watching Hubie Brown break Jason Williams' spirit. Right now, I am really afraid we're watching George Karl break DeMarcus Cousins' game ... and his future.

I cannot recall being this angry since Chris Webber was traded, but this is a different kind of anger. This is the anger of seeing an elite athlete misused and blamed for things that are not his fault. This is the anger that comes when you're watching a trainwreck and realizing you're unable to stop it. And to go along with it, there's the belief that the Sacramento Kings could go down in history as the team that totally destroyed the career of an incredible young man.

Dramatic? Yes, but it's how I feel.
 
Problem with Cuz I'm seeing more and more other than making free throws he's not really efficient at anything on offense his mid range jumper is the same its always been which is not good and adding the 3 which had a couple games where it was decent is worse than Quincy Acy. I look at Blake Griffin who didn't have a post up game or post game and is now a dead eye in both.

Cousins has to be a specialist in something other than rebouding and getting to the line which is heavily reliant on outside influences. I dont understand how with so much skill he lacks a lot of basic basketball moves or just simply never uses them.
 
Problem with Cuz I'm seeing more and more other than making free throws he's not really efficient at anything on offense his mid range jumper is the same its always been which is not good and adding the 3 which had a couple games where it was decent is worse than Quincy Acy. I look at Blake Griffin who didn't have a post up game or post game and is now a dead eye in both.

Cousins has to be a specialist in something other than rebouding and getting to the line which is heavily reliant on outside influences. I dont understand how with so much skill he lacks a lot of basic basketball moves or just simply never uses them.

Whatever. You want to bag on Cousins right now? Go ahead. I don't even have the energy to put up with it.
 
Physically he looks slow and tired... It shows in his play. He barely uses any finesse effectively at the moment. People keep blaming it on the play style. I'm seeing Cousins getting schooled inside and out. Two years ago he was moving very well and showing finesse development in the post and with his ball handling and overall skillset. Remember when Cuz used to lead the fastbreak displaying his dribbling skills? I just don't see the same athletic movement from him. Not that he should be handling the ball on the break, because he's walking regardless of that
 
He need to sit for a couple weeks. Maybe call Lebron and ask him what docs to visit in Miami. It's admirable to play through injuries and fatigue, but he's not helping the team right now by making bums like Gortat look like prime Duncan.
 
I remember watching Hubie Brown break Jason Williams' spirit. Right now, I am really afraid we're watching George Karl break DeMarcus Cousins' game ... and his future.

I cannot recall being this angry since Chris Webber was traded, but this is a different kind of anger. This is the anger of seeing an elite athlete misused and blamed for things that are not his fault. This is the anger that comes when you're watching a trainwreck and realizing you're unable to stop it. And to go along with it, there's the belief that the Sacramento Kings could go down in history as the team that totally destroyed the career of an incredible young man.

Dramatic? Yes, but it's how I feel.

You might be right.

I don't have anything to add except as difficult as it should be to feel sorry for a guy playing a game and making so much money, I DO feel sorry for him. He is being asked to be the offensive leader, the defensive leader, and to be a locker room leader. I doubt very much that he has the latter skill. We have anointed him as our franchise player. I am sure he knows that. I am guessing that in his mind that means everything is his fault as he isn't leading properly. I think we all know enough about Boogie to guess that he places all the blame on his shoulders. The blame isn't all his.

Considering he is now spending a lot of time at the three point line, is anyone surprised he doesn't know what to do?

We hired the wrong coach. Absolutely. When a player says he doesn't know what to do, it is up to the coaching staff to show him. If he is expected to change his entire style of play, we need another coach. That is asking too much of a player.
 
To be fair, last season he looked to be starting to really improve as a post player only to have Karl yank him out to the perimeter over the offseason.
This is BS Ttesujin, and I really respect your opinion. Cuz regressed as a post player after his 2nd year... ever since HE decided he wants to incorporate mid range Js to his game.
 
This isn't a Cousins problem.

Its a George ****ing Karl problem. the one and only reason I haven't heated up the drums again for the old man's removal was apparent buy in from Cousins and Rondo. But its been obvious from the beginning Karl's approach was nonsense for Cousins. He's ****ing up the best center in the game because he's too incompetent to grow as a coach in his old age.

The fact is right now, here, today, I would be a better coach for DeMarcus Cousins than a 1000 win coach in George Karl is. I get it. Malone got it. Karl does not get it. Its not that hard. But George Karl does not get it. And as a DIRECT result of not George Karl getting it, we can't realize our potential as a team.

Cousins trying to be coachable comment is just sad BTW. he knows where the blame will fall if this does not work, and yet he's the one showing up everyday and being thrown into ridiculous positions by his coach. I'm glad he used the term lost, because you can see it out there where he's catching the ball in impossible positions and doesn't know what the hell he's supposed to do with it. You saw it today where there were absolute obvious times he should have been posting up, and yet he was stuck standing outside, because, scheme and all that. And now what do I do. And there is no center in the league who wouldn't be lost given such bizarre commandments. You want to see what happens to Drummond if he's put in the positions we are putting Cousins in?
 
This isn't a Cousins problem.

Its a George ****ing Karl problem. the one and only reason I haven't heated up the drums again for the old man's removal was apparent buy in from Cousins and Rondo. But its been obvious from the beginning Karl's approach was nonsense for Cousins. He's ****ing up the best center in the game because he's too incompetent to grow as a coach in his old age.

The fact is right now, here, today, I would be a better coach for DeMarcus Cousins than a 1000 win coach in George Karl is. I get it. Malone got it. Karl does not get it. Its not that hard. But George Karl does not get it. And as a DIRECT result of not George Karl getting it, we can't realize our potential as a team.

Cousins trying to be coachable comment is just sad BTW. he knows where the blame will fall if this does not work, and yet he's the one showing up everyday and being thrown into ridiculous positions by his coach. I'm glad he used the term lost, because you can see it out there where he's catching the ball in impossible positions and doesn't know what the hell he's supposed to do with it. You saw it today where there were absolute obvious times he should have been posting up, and yet he was stuck standing outside, because, scheme and all that. And now what do I do. And there is no center in the league who wouldn't be lost given such bizarre commandments. You want to see what happens to Drummond if he's put in the positions we are putting Cousins in?
It's Karl's problem that Cuz decided not to play defense on Gortat?

Cousins is NOT the best center in the game, BUT he's one of the most talented.

Cousins gets every excuse in the book. When he acts like an immature child, he gets a pass because the refs probably missed a call. When he decides to commit a blatant foul, he gets a pass because he can't help that he didn't know it was a foul. When he misses a shot on offense and walks on defense, he gets a pass because he's a 6'11 270lb guy. When he argues with a ref after a no-call, he gets a pass because it may or may not have been a foul. When he decides to argue with refs instead of hustling, he gets a pass because he's clearly frustrated with Karl, so he takes it out on the ref.

Why does Cuz get every excuse in the book by some of this fan base? At what point do we hold him accountable? Cuz has ALWAYS been a high usage, and low efficiency player. You know what makes it worse? The fact that he has about ZERO above the rim game. ZERO. The NBA has changed drastically throughout the years.

It's so hard to build around a player who needs the ball in his hands all the time, has a very inefficient fg%, has little to ZERO post moves, relies on his strength to score, can't score above the rim like a regular C, has questionable bball IQ, doesn't like hustling to the other side of the floor, complains about every call or non-call, argues with refs, constantly has a poor body language, constantly has a poor attitude, and has an inconsistent effort.

It's so hard to have your franchise player as DeMarcus Cousins.
Even with his injuries this year, I don't feel like he's giving it 110% out there every night on both ends. What I do know is that we're .500 with HIM in this offense.


At what point is it ok for us to hold Cousins for some of his own problems?

When Cousins is your franchise player, he's the guy that the entire team depends on. When we win, he gets the credit..should be the same when we lose.
 
I got DMC's back over anyone else in this organization. He's been so loyal to this city through all the bull****.

What the hell has George Karl ever done for this us?
Karl and Cousins so far in terms of on court success have given the same amount to the Kings and that's nothing, i don't care what he does in the community any scrub in the Nba can be a good community guy it's about winning games.
 
It's Karl's problem that Cuz decided not to play defense on Gortat?

Cousins is NOT the best center in the game, BUT he's one of the most talented.

Cousins gets every excuse in the book. When he acts like an immature child, he gets a pass because the refs probably missed a call. When he decides to commit a blatant foul, he gets a pass because he can't help that he didn't know it was a foul. When he misses a shot on offense and walks on defense, he gets a pass because he's a 6'11 270lb guy. When he argues with a ref after a no-call, he gets a pass because it may or may not have been a foul. When he decides to argue with refs instead of hustling, he gets a pass because he's clearly frustrated with Karl, so he takes it out on the ref.

Why does Cuz get every excuse in the book by some of this fan base? At what point do we hold him accountable? Cuz has ALWAYS been a high usage, and low efficiency player. You know what makes it worse? The fact that he has about ZERO above the rim game. ZERO. The NBA has changed drastically throughout the years.

It's so hard to build around a player who needs the ball in his hands all the time, has a very inefficient fg%, has little to ZERO post moves, relies on his strength to score, can't score above the rim like a regular C, has questionable bball IQ, doesn't like hustling to the other side of the floor, complains about every call or non-call, argues with refs, constantly has a poor body language, constantly has a poor attitude, and has an inconsistent effort.

It's so hard to have your franchise player as DeMarcus Cousins.
Even with his injuries this year, I don't feel like he's giving it 110% out there every night on both ends. What I do know is that we're .500 with HIM in this offense.


At what point is it ok for us to hold Cousins for some of his own problems?

When Cousins is your franchise player, he's the guy that the entire team depends on. When we win, he gets the credit..should be the same when we lose.

If he comes up short in so many categories, why do you call him a franchise player?
 
If he comes up short in so many categories, why do you call him a franchise player?
Maybe it's because we're starting to see that we might not have a franchise player in Cousins after 5 years of suckery.

Things honestly wouldn't be so bad if he didn't have half of the baggage he does. I wish he could translate all of that negative energy into a + play. Cuz might be a problem to his own problem?
 
Cuz has been utilized properly by one guy in his entire career...

....What happened then? He was talked about as a potential MVP candidate. We were beating elite teams. Our starting five had the best +/- in the league. The media was saying good things about us.

.... Then meningitis and PDA wormtongue happened. Our jerkass owner canned Malone, and here we are.

Yes, Cuz is a jerk. A diva. A pouter. A crappy leader.

But he's also insanely talented.

And the excuses are valid. Every coach we've had here, sans Malone, has known **** all about how to use him, including Karl. He's trying to turn him into a SG. Pushing the pace is ludicrous for a team with a centerpiece like Cuz.

If we trade him to a non-idiot franchise, he's going to blow up in a big way.

Very frustrating year. If we trade him, we can pinpoint the moment that set us back ten years. Weasel conning our goblin owner into firing Malone. Malone and Cuz would have done work with this roster.
 
Cuz has been utilized properly by one guy in his entire career...

....What happened then? He was talked about as a potential MVP candidate. We were beating elite teams. Our starting five had the best +/- in the league. The media was saying good things about us.

.... Then meningitis and PDA wormtongue happened. Our jerkass owner canned Malone, and here we are.

Yes, Cuz is a jerk. A diva. A pouter. A crappy leader.

But he's also insanely talented.

And the excuses are valid. Every coach we've had here, sans Malone, has known **** all about how to use him, including Karl. He's trying to turn him into a SG. Pushing the pace is ludicrous for a team with a centerpiece like Cuz.

If we trade him to a non-idiot franchise, he's going to blow up in a big way.

Very frustrating year. If we trade him, we can pinpoint the moment that set us back ten years. Weasel conning our goblin owner into firing Malone. Malone and Cuz would have done work with this roster.


You are disgustingly accurate. :)
 
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It's Karl's problem that Cuz decided not to play defense on Gortat?

Cousins is NOT the best center in the game, BUT he's one of the most talented.

Cousins gets every excuse in the book. When he acts like an immature child, he gets a pass because the refs probably missed a call. When he decides to commit a blatant foul, he gets a pass because he can't help that he didn't know it was a foul. When he misses a shot on offense and walks on defense, he gets a pass because he's a 6'11 270lb guy. When he argues with a ref after a no-call, he gets a pass because it may or may not have been a foul. When he decides to argue with refs instead of hustling, he gets a pass because he's clearly frustrated with Karl, so he takes it out on the ref.

Why does Cuz get every excuse in the book by some of this fan base? At what point do we hold him accountable? Cuz has ALWAYS been a high usage, and low efficiency player. You know what makes it worse? The fact that he ha s about ZERO above the rim game. ZERO. The NBA has changed drastically throughout the years.

It's so hard to build around a player who needs the ball in his hands all the time, has a very inefficient fg%, has little to ZERO post moves, relies on his strength to score, can't score above the rim like a regular C, has questionable bball IQ, doesn't like hustling to the other side of the floor, complains about every call or non-call, argues with refs, constantly has a poor body language, constantly has a poor attitude, and has an inconsistent effort.

It's so hard to have your franchise player as DeMarcus Cousins.
Even with his injuries this year, I don't feel like he's giving it 110% out there every night on both ends. What I do know is that we're .500 with HIM in this offense.


At what point is it ok for us to hold Cousins for some of his own problems?

When Cousins is your franchise player, he's the guy that the entire team depends on. When we win, he gets the credit..should be the same when we lose.

I have to agree. Cousins has all the potential in the world. But taking responsibility for what he does and doesn't do is what will lead to success. Telling the Bee he feels lost is a wimpy thing to do. Are you a man or what. Get with the program. Go the extra yard. Close your trap. What is supposed to happen at this point? Nothing good can come from this except Cousins doing his best every play. Find a way instead of finding a way out.
 
My issue with the article and the comments here are:

A) even when we have gotten Cousins to post up he has not been this dominant force that some make him out to be. So that has nothing to do with Karl's scheme, that's Cousins not finishing shots around the rim. Maybe that's due to injuries or whatever, but Cousins in the post this season is not this MVP post player of last season or whatever.

B) Cousins' comments about following defensive schemes was funny. He gave up (as documented in the article) a good 3 or 4 layups simply by not getting back on defense. Gortat outran him, plain and simple, don't blame it on schemes. Switches leading Cousins having to run out to the perimeter to challenge 3s is a fault of the scheme. Gortat getting looks in the open court is not.
 
Cuz has been utilized properly by one guy in his entire career...

....What happened then? He was talked about as a potential MVP candidate. We were beating elite teams. Our starting five had the best +/- in the league. The media was saying good things about us.

.... Then meningitis and PDA wormtongue happened. Our jerkass owner canned Malone, and here we are.

Yes, Cuz is a jerk. A diva. A pouter. A crappy leader.

But he's also insanely talented.

And the excuses are valid. Every coach we've had here, sans Malone, has known **** all about how to use him, including Karl. He's trying to turn him into a SG. Pushing the pace is ludicrous for a team with a centerpiece like Cuz.

If we trade him to a non-idiot franchise, he's going to blow up in a big way.

Very frustrating year. If we trade him, we can pinpoint the moment that set us back ten years. Weasel conning our goblin owner into firing Malone. Malone and Cuz would have done work with this roster.

What you have outlined is very accurate, but here's my question. Do you now change coaches again and pray that he is Malone 2.0? If you're playing the odds then based on historical success it's more likely we end up with yet another coach who supposedly doesn't know how to coach to the team's/ Cousins' strength.
 
What you have outlined is very accurate, but here's my question. Do you now change coaches again and pray that he is Malone 2.0? If you're playing the odds then based on historical success it's more likely we end up with yet another coach who supposedly doesn't know how to coach to the team's/ Cousins' strength.
I think Vlade could do a better job. If Vlade doesn't want to coach out the year, find someone else and it shouldn't be like rolling dice in a game of craps. Vlade did well putting together this team. I suspect he could do a better job than Ranadive or his hired yes man, the ferret. He would have a bigger bank roll to work with as the cheapness of the Maloofs is no longer a problem. A new coach would be picked that has had a proven record of coaching a game more suited to Cuz and Rudy. Let's not think that the guessing game that has run rampant in picking coaches the last decade would continue with Vlade.
 
Cuz has been utilized properly by one guy in his entire career...

....What happened then? He was talked about as a potential MVP candidate. We were beating elite teams. Our starting five had the best +/- in the league. The media was saying good things about us.

.... Then meningitis and PDA wormtongue happened. Our jerkass owner canned Malone, and here we are.

Yes, Cuz is a jerk. A diva. A pouter. A crappy leader.

But he's also insanely talented.

And the excuses are valid. Every coach we've had here, sans Malone, has known **** all about how to use him, including Karl. He's trying to turn him into a SG. Pushing the pace is ludicrous for a team with a centerpiece like Cuz.

If we trade him to a non-idiot franchise, he's going to blow up in a big way.

Very frustrating year. If we trade him, we can pinpoint the moment that set us back ten years. Weasel conning our goblin owner into firing Malone. Malone and Cuz would have done work with this roster.

How long was Cousins properly utilized? Maybe if Malone was not fired we would know for sure. But as far as I know it was for an 8 game stretch. Cousins is not capable of being utilized any other way? We are like 10 and 10 in the last 20 games. Last night we lost because the team was gassed on a back to back and could not hit a shot to save they're lives at the end of the game. It would have been nice if they could have pulled it out but we aren't to that point yet. What are we going to do? Fire the coach?
 
None of this is new information. It was obvious over the summer that trouble was on the horizon with DeMarcus Cousins and George Karl. I could see three weeks into the season that we were going to have to pick one or the other because they are not compatible. Cousins' body language all season has been "F this". Since game 1. How much longer are we going to wait to see if the situation corrects itself?

The ironic thing is, this front office has been a model of impatience since Vivek took over. So why are we now the passive "wait and see" guys when just about anything would be better than maintaining the current status quo? We've traded two of our next 3 first round picks. Our second best player right now is going to be a free agent at the end of the year. We can't afford to do nothing and watch George Karl torch our last chance of ever being a playoff team with Cousins. We have the talent to be the #5 team in this conference right now.

It's much more than just Cousins' frustration boiling over. Rudy has regressed into just a one-dimensional scorer after averaging nearly 4 assists per game last year. Marco Belinelli looks like he's been given the green light to dribble and shoot as much as he wants, regardless of the offensive play call. It's gotten to the point that I don't even like watching the games right now because I already know we're going to see Rondo and Collison for the whole fourth quarter. It's been obvious for a month that lineup is hurting us. Just play Ben for the last 6 minutes of the game. Just try it, please! I can't stand watching the team choke away winnable games over and over again because the wrong players are on the court for the last 10 minutes.

So no I don't think this is about Cousins being a loser who's incapable of taking the next step as a leader on a playoff team. He was everything we need him to be last season. But the more frustrated he gets, the worse he plays. Remember how inconsistent we were under Westphal? Same thing. We were right to fire Westphal then, we just waited too long to do it. And despite what certain advisors may have led Vivek to believe, this team doesn't need a jazz leader it needs a renewed focus on the fundamental principles of good basketball. Man-to-man defense, boxing out, establishing position in the post, pick and roll, exploiting size and strength mismatches. We have the personnel to win that way. All of this supposedly forward thinking nonsense about spacing the floor, pushing the pace, no defined positions, radical zone switching defense. It's snake oil. That's the junk you pull out of your pocket when you don't have the personnel to compete just by playing basketball. I hate all of it. I'm in favor of anybody on the sideline who'll chew these guys out for forgetting to box out, for playing lazy hands down defense, for going 5 possessions in a row without getting the ball into the past. Because that's where we're losing games. The attention to details.
 
The way people talk about a 15 game stretch we should retire a banner with 9/6 and in brackets put Mike Malone coaching Dmc healthy when the Nuggets come to visit us.

Should the Kings fire Karl sure but you can't put 100% of the blame on him he's not here to coach basic effort and basic basketball decision making.
 
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The real issue is this team team is much worse on the road and really bad on back to backs.

Cousins +- on back to backs is -12. Gay -8.6. Collison -7.2. Casspi -8.9. Kings -11.1.

Overall Home -0.8. Road -4.9.

Defense is the first thing to go on the road.

I would like to see if the team can be made more comfortable on the road? Or is there a curfew problem (if you get my drift). Nutrition, sleep, conditioning. What could be improved?
 
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I have to agree. Cousins has all the potential in the world. But taking responsibility for what he does and doesn't do is what will lead to success. Telling the Bee he feels lost is a wimpy thing to do. Are you a man or what. Get with the program. Go the extra yard. Close your trap. What is supposed to happen at this point? Nothing good can come from this except Cousins doing his best every play. Find a way instead of finding a way out.

B.S.

'Getting with the program" when the program is idiotic is not "manly". Its stupid, submissive, or both. If we want to talk real "manly" stuff, in the real world when a leader is not getting it done, the ambitious manly men are typical going to depose him.

Cuz can't win because fans are hippocrites. He fights Karl he's a cancer. He goes along with Karl, he's a wimp.

Part of it is many fans being not very good at basketball. Go the extra yard? Yeah. If Luke Walton had walked into the coaching position in Golden State and immediately told Steph Curry to play off the ball in the post, I'm sure all the geniuses out there would have told Steph to "just suck it up amnd go the extra yard".

The problem is so obvious that even a dunderhead like Grant has been remarking on it game after game. This is criminal misuse. THIS IS THE COACH. 100%. There is nothing sacrosanct about coaches, especially not at the NBA level where the players they coach are a lot more exceptional and rare specimens than the coaches themselves. Its the coach's job to maximize the success of his best players, not the other way around.

I did this math earlier this season, but here it is once again. This is A KARL PROBLEM:

DeMarcus Cousins FG%, Mike Malone: 86gms 717-1437 = .499FG% (TS% = .561)
DeMarcus Cousins, FG%, this season: 20gms 164-393 = .417FG% (TS% = .515)

This is criminal misuse of our prime asset. If we had a board of directors in a publicly traded company they would can the failed manager post haste.

This would normally deserve a full descriptive thread, but here is what any fool who knows the Kings should know, and yet George Karl does not. These are DeMarcus Cousins shot "heat" charts for the last 4 years. So not only Malone, but the last year of Smart too.

2012-13 Smart
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2013-14 Malone
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2014-15 Malone/Corbin/Karl (I'd be willing to bet the Malone part looked like the above charts, then got diluted by idiots)
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2015-16 Karl (the little outside smudge here is outside the arc now)
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And EVERYBODY who watched Cousins and knew their stuff knew this. This was Cousins' game. Strong midrange shooter, off the catch and shoot, from 18-20 feet, up around the FT line, not the angles. Left block post player. From either the block or the facing jumper, loved/preferred to fake or spin and slash to the rim instead. That's the game. All great players have them. You can trash any great player, just take away what they do well and make them do stupid stuff instead. Make Bron or Westbrook a spot up three point shooter. Make A.D. into a back to the basket player. Turn Curry into a post up guard. Its not hard. All you have to do is be an idiot an you can mess up anything you touch. In this case Karl has completely evaporated Cuz's midrange and post game to buy back a 31% 3pt shooter who now has to dribble 25feet just to get a shot off at the rim.

Do you know that its been NEARLY 30 YEARS since George Karl has a big man average 20+ppg for him? And that it happened 1 single time for him in 25 seasons as a coach? And that in the past 18 years George Karl has had exactly 1 "big man" ever average 15ppg for him? And that was Kenyon Martin in 2004-05, George's very first year in Denver, when he took over midseason? Martin averaged 15.5ppg that year, much like Boogie continued along after Karl took over last year. Under Karl Martin would never average more than 12.9ppg again.

In 9 years in Denver, Martin was the only one at 15.5ppg. Nene got as high as 14.6ppg.
In 5 years in Milwaulkee, if yo really wanted to squint and call Tim Thomas a "big" he averaged 13.3ppg. Otherwise its Anthony Mason at 9.4ppg (!)
In 7 years in Seattle both Kemp and Baker broke 19ppg, neither ever averaged 20ppg.
In 2 years in Golden State in Yr 2 Ralph Sampson averaged 15.5ppg in 25 games. In Yr 1, 1986-87, Joe Barry Carroll averaged 21.2pts...on .437 shooting.
In 2 years in Cleveland Mel Turpin never averaged more than 13.7ppg. Tweener forward Roy Hinson (similar to Tim Thomas) averaged 19.6ppg 1 year.

There is absolutely NO evidence, and never was, that George Karl has any idea how to coach a team built around a great big man. If you were to hire somebody with so inappropriate a resume for a job you'd probably get fired yourself. And hey, PDA did, but Vivek can't be. Its like hiring an old history teacher to teach calculus, because hey, he used to be a great teacher back when students were writing with quills and the Holy Roman Empire was a thing.
 
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It's Karl's problem that Cuz decided not to play defense on Gortat?

Cousins is NOT the best center in the game, BUT he's one of the most talented.
He's clearly the best center in the game. You completely disqualify yourself from basketball analysis in general if you don't understand that.

But he is being epically ****ed with by his own coach for no good reason at all.
 
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