Consolidated Artest rumor thread

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NewArena said:
But this does re-open the talks that the kings had with Orlando. Remember, orlando as of yesterday was debating whether or not they wanted to make a deal for brad or thomas so now that Kurt is in San antonio, maybe this can get talks going again.

ugh petrie is pissing me off!
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I think the Orlando deal, much like the supposed Ron to SA deal, isn't actually of any substance. No one reported it and it didn't seem legit.

BTW, Eze was right. Maybe he has a reliable source.
 
I just can't imagine what Petrie is thinking, there is no reason to keep Artest now. Maybe the rent a player thing is becoming an issue and Petrie is being too greedy, teams just won't give up that much to have a player for half a season. Unless he really thinks he can pull off a sign and trade for expiring contracts and a David Lee quality player in the offseason this makes no sense.

I would think teams would be more likely to trade more now as the playoffs are coming as opposed to the offseason where there is no pressure.
 
dime dropper said:
That was a good Spurs deal. Don't think we've any chance of moving Ron now. Nuggets won't give up Kleiza.
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Sportscenter says other wise.

said Petrie doesnt mind holding on, and will wait till the deadline and that the Nuggets are getting desperate and might soften up on Klezia, knowing Petrie he is probably pushing for a draft pick.
 
nbrans said:
No one has a reliable source, least of all Eze.
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Yah not when it comes to the Kings.. Even if you worked for the Kings you would be in the same boat unless you stumble on something.

Personally I still think something MIGHT be done.. I think there will be a 3rd team involved though because we can't get something done with two. I'm gonna stick by that one.
 
Why Give up Ron for Scraps?

If Petrie can not get young talent, a 1st rounder and expirings he should not trade Ron. There is no reason to give away a good player. Seems like people are panicking because they want something to happen. Something happening does not = something good happening. Petrie has been very solid with his decision making. I doubt be will pass up a good deal.

BTW who else is pissed that Seattle managed to get 2 first rounders for Kurt Thomas (1 for taking him, 1 for trading him away)?
 
Circa_1985_Fan said:
Yup, I think Ron is staying put. I dont mind that one bit...for some reason I think we might be working on an extension for Ron...but that's just a hunch.
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Hopefully not. It makes zero sense to keep Ron around after this season. It makes zero sense to keep him around now.

It's a fine deal without Kleiza, and shopping for a SF is near the bottom of our priority list. If we still have Ron at noon tomorrow, I'm going to be really pissed off.
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Have to agree. I'd even do Najera/JR/2nd rounder at this point. I'll be very disappointed (but not shocked) if Ron is still here next week.

said Petrie doesnt mind holding on, and will wait till the deadline and that the Nuggets are getting desperate and might soften up on Klezia, knowing Petrie he is probably pushing for a draft pick.
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While it could be true, it's just speculation. I want Ron gone.
 
midtowner said:
If Petrie can not get young talent, a 1st rounder and expirings he should not trade Ron. There is no reason to give away a good player. Seems like people are panicking because they want something to happen. Something happening does not = something good happening. Petrie has been very solid with his decision making. I doubt be will pass up a good deal.

BTW who else is pissed that Seattle managed to get 2 first rounders for Kurt Thomas (1 for taking him, 1 for trading him away)?
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Almost anything for Artest is a good deal, lets face it we have to get something for him because it would be crazy to sign him to a big contract. The dude is a headcase and frankly an overrated player, we'd be suckers to keep him around. We're better off without him, we're not winning anytime soon; he does nothing for us besides keep us just good enough to stay in the back of the lottery.
 
The problem is that if we let Ron walk, we will get nothing in return except some money off the books. If there are any deals out there that will get us something for Ron, we should take it before the deadline.
 
Latest Amick update:

(3:56 p.m.)
Let the staring contest begin.
The Kings and Denver are at a non-communicative standstill, but there may be some reason to believe the Nuggets are considering giving up Kleiza. Remember, there's really no reason to give in now. Just wait for the other side to blink until the deadline draws even closer. Twenty hours and counting...

http://www.sacbee.com/static/weblogs/sports/kings/
 
nbrans said:
Latest Amick update:

(3:56 p.m.)
Let the staring contest begin.
The Kings and Denver are at a non-communicative standstill, but there may be some reason to believe the Nuggets are considering giving up Kleiza. Remember, there's really no reason to give in now. Just wait for the other side to blink until the deadline draws even closer. Twenty hours and counting...

http://www.sacbee.com/static/weblogs/sports/kings/
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I kind of agree with this. Smith won't be in our long term plans, and doesn't have too much trade value either. The pick is going to be in 20s, which can get us a good player, but not something to get really excited about. Giving in to Denver's demands shall not only get us a bad deal now, it shall also set us up for bad deals in future (e.g., if we try to trade Brad next year).

While it certainly carries the risk of losing him for nothing, we might be able to do a S&T for him around the draft. Ron shall be looking for a good hike, and it's not like there are a number of teams out there with lot of cap space. Given how competitive West is (and might be even more next year with Blazers getting Oden, and Wolves, Sonics and hopefully us, improving), teams (particularly those that flame out in the playoffs) might feel added pressure to take a chance with him.
 
His entry kind of changed. Here's the new full one up:

(3:56 p.m.)
Let the staring contest begin.
The Kings and Denver are at a non-communicative standstill, but there may be some reason to believe the Nuggets are considering giving up Kleiza.
Not to simplify the matter, but I can safely say Denver has looked at possible acquisitions in this light from the beginning. Jason Kidd was the most talented guy available, and Ron Artest was the second. End of story.
And now that it doesn't appear as if Denver will land Memphis' Mike Miller, that could be leverage of sorts for the Kings. Remember, there's really no reason to give in now. Just wait for the other side to blink until the deadline draws even closer. Twenty hours and counting...

http://www.sacbee.com/static/weblogs/sports/kings/
 
=LarryLegend= said:
Grant just said there is nothing going on at all.
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I remember Grant swearing last year that Ron was about to be traded. I'm not sure whether he has zero credibility with me, or if I am more likely to believe the opposite of what he says (negative credibility). But it's somewhere around there.
 
JR Smith is Garbage

Repeat. JR Smith is Garbage. Besides KT and SAR, there is no player that I would trade for JR Smith.

Najara/JR Smith/2cnd is basically trading artest for a late second round draft pick. I would rather hold onto Ron until the summer and see what happens.
 
Vlade4GM said:
Almost anything for Artest is a good deal, lets face it we have to get something for him because it would be crazy to sign him to a big contract. The dude is a headcase and frankly an overrated player, we'd be suckers to keep him around. We're better off without him, we're not winning anytime soon; he does nothing for us besides keep us just good enough to stay in the back of the lottery.
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Artest may be a lot of things, but overrated isn't one of them.
 
midtowner said:
Repeat. JR Smith is Garbage. Besides KT and SAR, there is no player that I would trade for JR Smith.

Najara/JR Smith/2cnd is basically trading artest for a late second round draft pick. I would rather hold onto Ron until the summer and see what happens.
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See what happens? Nothing is going to happen. Artest is going to walk, and Petrie is going to let him.. 10000000% sure that we will not resign Artest if he is still with us come summer.
 
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