Combining Rumors as the Trade Deadline Approaches

Below are three moves that may be reasonable and make the Kings better.

Marcus Thornton for Batum and filler (Kurt Thomas, Elliot Williams, and Chris Johnson)

Why for Portland: The Trailblazers need help at guard and Thornton provides an immediate upgrade. Jamal Crawford is on the trade block and may not return to the Blazers, so they will need a replacement. Who better than Marcus Thornton? The Blazers also already have Gerald Wallace at small forward, so Batum may be expendable for the right price. In this deal they rid themselves of Kurt Thomas and a couple of other bums, just so salaries match, which may add incentive. Last, there is also no guarantee that Batum will re-sign with Portland, as they low-balled him in re-negotiations, so they may make a move now to get some value.

Why for the Kings: Small forward is arguably the weakest spot on the roster and Batum fits the bill perfectly: a young rangy athlete who doesn’t need the ball and can hit open threes. The Kings probably get better value, but take a risk since there is no guarantee that Batum will re-sign. I think it’s worth it though and the Kings might too, since they have reportedly inquired about Batum according to Jason Jones.

JJ Hickson for Dorell Wright

Why for Golden State: Mark Jackson has indicated that he will go with Stephen Jackson at starting small forward, now that the dust has settled on their deal with Milwaukee. With Brandon Rush off the bench, what room is there for Dorell Wright? Meanwhile, JJ Hickson is a young front court piece with potential and an expiring contract. With no Andrew Bogut this year and an already thin front court (basically Biedrins and Lee), the Warriors may welcome this deal and hope that Hickson finds his way with this new opportunity.

Why for the Kings: Even with Batum, Tyreke Evans and company can always use reliable outside shooters to stretch the floor. Wright is similar to Batum in some ways but a little older and with less upside. He seems like a good fit as a reliable spark plug off the bench.

Greene and Garcia for Okafor and one of their first round picks (ultimately from Minnesota, so 10-15).

Why for New Orleans: They are looking for a huge salary dump and need a “cap mule.” Since the Kings have the lowest payroll in the league, the Kings can save New Orleans a lot of money. Sacramento does not have to match salaries, so the Hornets would immediately save about 6.5 million this year (Garcia + Greene – Okafor). Greene is expiring and the Hornets would have one less draft pick to sign, so they would save roughly 9 million the next year. Garcia expires one year before Okafor, so in two years they save 14 million.

Why for the Kings: Although Okafor’s contract is wildly inflated, the Kings could use another veteran front court player who can provide a defensive presence next to Cousins. He doesn’t need the ball and has a good head on his shoulders. The Kings get a first rounder out of this as well, which the Hornets are apparently offering as incentive to take Okafor off their hands.

P.S. I tried to dump Outlaw but he is simply too awful!

Thomas/Fredette
Evans/Salmons
Batum/Wright/Honeycutt
Okafor/Hayes/Outlaw
Cousins/Thompson/Whiteside

+2 first round picks. The Kings could land a nice front court piece with their pick and then take the best point guard avaiable with New Orlean's pick.

Thoughts? Do any offers need sweetener? Do you like it for the Kings?
 
I would do all of those deals, our roster would be so much more balanced. But I highly doubt Petrie's going to do anything. The Kings never do anything smart, we suck and our FO is a bunch of idiots.
 
I would do all of those deals, our roster would be so much more balanced. But I highly doubt Petrie's going to do anything. The Kings never do anything smart, we suck and our FO is a bunch of idiots.

well I wouldn't go to that extreme to call our FO "bunch of idiots" but Petrie tend to be passive with moves. I'd be more concerned about the Maloofs. If Maloofs let Petrie spend, then I think he can regain his mojo.
 
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I think our FO is smaller than what the competitive teams have, and I think our scouts could use some work, along with some research personnel. Petrie normally drafts well, which shows some ability to scout in college, but his trades always buy high and sell low, which shows poor scouting of talent already in the NBA. I also think the FO has too many Yes-men.
 
I'd very much like something that looks like this:

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine

Kings Incoming:
Nic Batum
Emeka Okafor
Kurt Thomas

Kings Outgoing:
Jimmer Fredette
Francisco Garcia
JJ Hickson

Portland Incoming:
Jimmer Fredette
JJ Hickson
1st round draft pick Via NOH

Portland Outgoing:
Kurt Thomas
Nic Batum

New Orleans Hornets Incoming:
Francisco Garcia

New Orleans Hornets Outgoing:
Emeka Okafor
1st round draft pick

It works under the CBA, but who knows if the kings would be willing to take on all of this salary, or if Batum is even on the table.
 
I'd very much like something that looks like this:

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine

Kings Incoming:
Nic Batum
Emeka Okafor
Kurt Thomas

Kings Outgoing:
Jimmer Fredette
Francisco Garcia
JJ Hickson

Portland Incoming:
Jimmer Fredette
JJ Hickson
1st round draft pick Via NOH

Portland Outgoing:
Kurt Thomas
Nic Batum

New Orleans Hornets Incoming:
Francisco Garcia

New Orleans Hornets Outgoing:
Emeka Okafor
1st round draft pick

It works under the CBA, but who knows if the kings would be willing to take on all of this salary, or if Batum is even on the table.

If you think NOH is going to give up Okafor and their first round pick for Francisco Garcia you have truly gone ape****.
 
Hornets will not give up picks to save salary. They are trying to gather young assets and picks to make the franchise attractive to a prospective owner. Giving your best piece away right now (seeing as how Gordon is out) is unfathomable as a basketball move. The draft is said to be loaded and they are in the thick of it. 1st will not be included in a salary dump.

Edit: To echo the poster above me, truly ape****. At this point, you'd have to give a 2nd rd pick just to get someone to take Garcia right now.
 
Hornets will not give up picks to save salary.

People are suggesting this because there have already been rumors out there that New Orleans IS willing to give up one of its two potential lottery picks (most likely the Minnesota one) in order to drop Okafor's salary. It's not just made up out of the blue, at least not by posters on this board.
 
People are suggesting this because there have already been rumors out there that New Orleans IS willing to give up one of its two potential lottery picks (most likely the Minnesota one) in order to drop Okafor's salary. It's not just made up out of the blue, at least not by posters on this board.

I don't trust the rumors, not after the precedent Stern set w/CP3
 
I don't trust the rumors, not after the precedent Stern set w/CP3

You never know because fo the Stern factor, but remember that if anything he might have a motivation to MAKE an Okafor deal happen -- it increases the attractiveness of that frnachise to a buyer to have $30million off its books.
 
If you think NOH is going to give up Okafor and their first round pick for Francisco Garcia you have truly gone ape****.


I'm not saying they will, I'm just going off of what's been rumored elsewhere. And I'd even give them JT, but they would have to extend him at the end of the year, thus adding salary .. something they don't want to do.

And trading one of Garcia/Hayes/Salmons is the only way we could even acquire Okafor under the current CBA. Garcia has the least amount of years.
 
Well, do people realize that a 28 million contract over the next 2 years for a good, but undersized big is something that nobody is going to take from you? You have to give some value for it. That's why NO is willing to throw a 1st round pick just to unload Okafor's contract. Do you guys really believe they want draft picks and young talent for Okafor?

I'm ready to give you my 30 years old girlfriend, for two hot 21-year-old girls. Do we have a deal?
 
I'm not saying they will, I'm just going off of what's been rumored elsewhere. And I'd even give them JT, but they would have to extend him at the end of the year, thus adding salary .. something they don't want to do.

And trading one of Garcia/Hayes/Salmons is the only way we could even acquire Okafor under the current CBA. Garcia has the least amount of years.

But he's still not an expiring, which is big.
 
But he's still not an expiring, which is big.

Right, but obviously New Orleans knows that.

What team is going to have the cap space to swallow almost all of Okafor's cap hit AND also have an expiring contract big enough to offset the difference? Is there ANY team in the league that fills those two criteria?? ... then add in the fact that whichever magical team that is also has to WANT to do the deal .. I'd say New Orleans is either expecting getting some sort of salary back or just not thinking realistically.

When I read that New Orleans is open to moving Okafor with a pick for capspace, I assume they understand that THAT exact deal isn't even possible. They would have to take back some salary in return.
 
I don't know why everybody seems to want to trade Thornton ? ?


I feel that he is more of a cornerstone for our team than even the great Tyreke Evans. Cousins and Thornton are the two guys that I'm the least worried about. I figure, our SG and C spots should be held by those two for a VERY long time. Everything else is up for grabs as far as I'm concerned.
 
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I don't know why everybody seems to want to trade Thornton ? ?


I feel that he is more of a cornerstone for our team than even the great Tyreke Evans. Cousins and Thornton are the two guys that I'm the least worried about. I figure, our SG and C spots should be held by those two for a VERY long time. Everything else is up for grabs as far as I'm concerned.

thornton is a streak scorer who doesn't play much defense. evans is a slasher who consistently scores at the rim and does play defense. if it comes down to the two of them, i know which one i'm trading. i prefer to keep both, and shift thornton to the bench. but thornton has value around the league as a jamal crawford-type scorer, so he could be useful as trade bait in order to acquire a SF. and with isaiah thomas proving to be a useful guard in the kings' rotation, i wouldn't mind placing him in the sixth man role instead of thornton, provided the kings can acquire another starting-quality guard to play alongside tyreke...
 
This trade deadline has been boring so far, only 1 trade so far with the Bogut/Ellis trade. I'm going to sleep and hope to hear some good news in the morning
 
I would love both of those trades batum is a great fit here, Marcus Thornton is awesome but he can't play defense on a lot of sg's and I'd rather have batum at sf and keep reke over Thornton because reke has a higher ceiling and he's more well rounded and he will eventually get his jumpshot down that's something you can learn that takes time. I'd only trade mt for someone who'd be a good starter at sf or PF/c

getting rid of Garcia and Jimmer is good with me. that okafor trade would be amazing, it's not like were signing any big time free agents in the next two years and we get an extra first which could end up being a stud.

hickson for a first of any kind would be a miracle that I'd love.
 
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I told Hickson I thought he'd been traded when he didn't play. He said he thought he'd been traded too as he joked there's still time

Gonna wake up to Hickson traded for Jermaine O'Neal's corpse.
 
Amick's twittered that Celtics talked about Hickson.

I'll take one of Boston's first round pick this year for JJ. That'll be a nice spot for Kendall Marshall.

If Portland trades Crawford and lands Blake, I think that'll open up a chance for Thornton for Batum.
 
I read an article where they were saying it's hard to imagine the Celtics giving up a first round pick in this deal. If this is true and we end up trading Hickson for O'Neil straight up, I'll immediately jump on the fire Petrie bandwagon. Can someone explain me why we should do it? If we don't trade him, we can let JJ walk at the end of the year. If we do the trade, we will let O'Neil walk. Where's the difference? Where is our benefit? Nothing will change for us.
We are doing Boston a favor here, do we have to do it for free? Are we a charity organization here to help the poor Boston Celtics getting under the luxury tax? We are giving them a young player who can contribute for an old useless big who will never play for us, getting more salary back, and they are not willing to give us a pick? The answer should be a big fxxx you Boston.

Let's see. I'm really worried about that. If Petrie does this trade without a pick, he will prove once again he has lost his mind and doesn't know how to run a franchise.
 
Is Jermaine O Neill actually healthy? Or is this another you take an injured player we give you nothing kinda deal.
 
This trade deadline has been boring so far, only 1 trade so far with the Bogut/Ellis trade. I'm going to sleep and hope to hear some good news in the morning

Dont count on it, the bee quoting GP today saying any deal that happens is likely to be small. Were aiming to draft well and hit up FA this summer
 
Dont count on it, the bee quoting GP today saying any deal that happens is likely to be small. Were aiming to draft well and hit up FA this summer

Good plan. That worked really well last summer. :rolleyes:
 
Dont count on it, the bee quoting GP today saying any deal that happens is likely to be small. Were aiming to draft well and hit up FA this summer

Is this a ground-hog day?!

Last time we had that plan we walked away with Jimmer and Chuck Hayes in addition to phenomenal trades in John Salmons and JJ Hickson...oh and forgot to mention Travis Outlaw. We dead set cleaned up!
 
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