CHICKEN OR EGG? The coach or the players? Fix what first?
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MassachusettsKingsFan
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No one, From coaches to players are performing at the level they should be performing at.
That being said, its much much much easier to change the culture of the team by firing the coach then trading away players. Especially if other teams know your struggling, which they do .. all we are going to get are lowball offers.
From the day we hired Westphal to today, I NEVER pictured him as the coach who will get us were we need to be. I felt like he was out of the game for too long, and on top of that he's old. Out of the game + Old age ( for a coach ) is a bad combo. How many years, if everything was going according to plan, would he want to coach anyway? 5? 7? This would require a coaching change while our players are in their prime. I dont know, I was just never on board with his hiring.
Like I said in another thread, This might not be Westphals fault, but he has to take the bullet. Sometimes change for the sake of change is enough to light a spark, and at this point we have nothing to lose. The risk of firing Westphal is very very low. We are already at the bottom, Nowhere to go but up. The reward is high, its impossible to predict how this team will play with a new coach, whoever it is .. but at this point, isnt the chance of improved play worth it? Im beggining to think so.
That being said, its much much much easier to change the culture of the team by firing the coach then trading away players. Especially if other teams know your struggling, which they do .. all we are going to get are lowball offers.
From the day we hired Westphal to today, I NEVER pictured him as the coach who will get us were we need to be. I felt like he was out of the game for too long, and on top of that he's old. Out of the game + Old age ( for a coach ) is a bad combo. How many years, if everything was going according to plan, would he want to coach anyway? 5? 7? This would require a coaching change while our players are in their prime. I dont know, I was just never on board with his hiring.
Like I said in another thread, This might not be Westphals fault, but he has to take the bullet. Sometimes change for the sake of change is enough to light a spark, and at this point we have nothing to lose. The risk of firing Westphal is very very low. We are already at the bottom, Nowhere to go but up. The reward is high, its impossible to predict how this team will play with a new coach, whoever it is .. but at this point, isnt the chance of improved play worth it? Im beggining to think so.
RookieOfTheDay
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I don't even know. The whole team is in such shambles it's hard to say where to start. If I were GM though I think my first order of business would be getting a legit starting caliber PG that can shoot the three and defend (Raymond Felton anyone?) Then if the lineup didn't solidify after that I'd start thinking about a new coach.
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Rotations.
First fix: At all times, either JT or Dalembert must be on the floor, because Dalembert blocks shots, and JT is quick enough to rotate, and he actually does rotate.
Cousins + Landry has to stop. Landry ****s up on pick and rolls, Cousins doesn't rotate to make up for it, we get dunked on every possession.
First fix: At all times, either JT or Dalembert must be on the floor, because Dalembert blocks shots, and JT is quick enough to rotate, and he actually does rotate.
Cousins + Landry has to stop. Landry ****s up on pick and rolls, Cousins doesn't rotate to make up for it, we get dunked on every possession.
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FaStRmAn
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I never thought of Paul Westphal as the answer at Head Coach. I suspect he was brought in to keep things in order while the team lost and the young players learned how to play in the NBA. I have always thought of Westphal as an Interim coach who would hang around a couple of years till the rookies on this team got their feet wet and learned how to play NBA basketball. I thought he would be a fundamentals coach, but he has proven to be anything but a fundamentals coach. He isnt a very good teacher either. None of our young players are progressing or learning the way they should. It was very telling when Westphal said in an interview that "Anyone who thought the Kings improvement would be linear was mistaken". Perhaps not linear but I think progress of some kind should be expected. In stead there has been regression, and players are seemingly getting worse not better. It does not seem like ANY fundamentals are being taught. Defense is non existent. The offense is unwatchable. It doesn't seem like there even is an offense that anyone can point to. Their half court offense just doesn't seem to exist. There are no screens, no pick and rolls, and no inside out game. Just hand the ball to a guard who penetrates and kicks out to covered players. Shot clock runs out and they take a bad shot. That is not an offense, that is a broken play! I don't think the Maloofs expect to win with the players they have, and I dont expect the Kings to get any better until the Maloofs spend the money to make the Kings competitive. 10th lowest payroll and it shows.
RookieOfTheDay
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!0th lowest would be a big improvement. The Kings are actually dead last. http://hoopshype.com/salaries.htm
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bajaden
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No doubt that Cousins makes some mistakes on rotations. But Landry is just terrible. As I stated in another thread, he and Tyreke both ended up on the same player at least three times leaving Griffin open all three times for a dunk. Not sure who the culprit was, but someone made a mistake. Your right about JT. For all the flack he gets, he's one of the better rotation players we have right now. He also knows when to rotate back therefore doing away with the mismatch as soon as possible. Dalembert is pretty good on his rotations as well. So your right, if you have both JT and Dalembert on the floor at the same time, your frontline rotations are pretty good.
You know I hate to pick on Landry. He's one of the few players that scores consistently game after game. So I like what Landry brings to the game. But in the Clipper game it was obvious that he was seriously mismatched against Griffin. Griffin was stronger, quicker, taller and can jump higher. There was no way Landry would be able to guard him. I doubt anyone could have stopped him, but at least Thompson is just as tall and has quicker feet than Landry. I'm sure Landry wouldn't have complained.
14 games.
I still think it is too early to expect this "NEW" team to win more games, especially we've got Evans (the sophomore) and Cousins the (rookie) as our best players in the team.
You want to win now? Then hire at least 2-3 more top caliber veteran players to the detriment of our young player's development.
I still think it is too early to expect this "NEW" team to win more games, especially we've got Evans (the sophomore) and Cousins the (rookie) as our best players in the team.
You want to win now? Then hire at least 2-3 more top caliber veteran players to the detriment of our young player's development.
RookieOfTheDay
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How is giving them a decent team to play with a "detriment to their development"? Were Horry, Fox, and Fisher a detriment to Shaq and Kobe's development? If anything, surrounding them with second tier talent is a detriment to their development.
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It's much more about the uninspired basketball and lack of direction we are seeing than about the record, although with the seemingly easy schedule we've had so far it was natural to expect more wins at this point as well. Our long losing streaks were supposed to happen (and will happen) later in the season, when we go on long road trips and face good teams, not when we play against teams like minnesota, new jersey, or the clippers.
Regardless of that, I think most people here would be willing to stomach those losses if they saw some kind of improvement and some kind of clear trajectory of where this team is going. I don't think anyone should expect this kind of chaos from any NBA team for that matter, and definitely not from a team like ours. We might not be a playoff team, but the talent that we currently have should be showing MUCH higher quality basketball than we have been seeing so far.
gunks
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Coach.
The rotations are dumb. Players have no roles. There doesnt seem to be any kind of offense whatsoever. There has been very little development of our younger players, in fact there seems to be some regression (Reke, JT, and to a lesser degree Omri). The defensive effort was good for a couple games...But now it would appear that Westphal has completely lost this team.
Lets give Elie a shot.
Also: The sooner we make Reke a SG the better. Dude cant run an offense at all. He can get his 20/5/5 just as easily from the 2 spot once he learns to play off the ball a little bit more, and improves the jumper (both things wont happen overnight, but its been said that if you dont have playmaking instincts you'll never develop them to a high level, Reke doesnt have playmaking instincts).
The rotations are dumb. Players have no roles. There doesnt seem to be any kind of offense whatsoever. There has been very little development of our younger players, in fact there seems to be some regression (Reke, JT, and to a lesser degree Omri). The defensive effort was good for a couple games...But now it would appear that Westphal has completely lost this team.
Lets give Elie a shot.
Also: The sooner we make Reke a SG the better. Dude cant run an offense at all. He can get his 20/5/5 just as easily from the 2 spot once he learns to play off the ball a little bit more, and improves the jumper (both things wont happen overnight, but its been said that if you dont have playmaking instincts you'll never develop them to a high level, Reke doesnt have playmaking instincts).
ArcoKings
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I blame the players more than the coach. The players are inexperienced and WON'T learn. Sure PW has made mistakes but its the players playing. Our team is just too inexperienced and the opposing coaches/players/scouts take advantage. PW doesn't have too much to work with. The owners are one of the "poorest" owners in the NBA and like they say, what you pay is what you get.
Tetsujin
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Shaq was in his prime and Kobe was just entering it. They were already developed.
CruzDude
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For the first time I can remember, almost everyone replying has a valid point. Some more than others but overall a good view of Kings problems. After last nights debacle in the 4th, I point the finger at Tyreke as the defacto PG. He is NOT a PG. He does not have a good jumper least of all beyond 16 ft. His thing is driving to the bucket. But once the opposing teams shut him down either in 3rd or for sure in the 4th quarters, his production drops to near zero and he takes the team down with him as they, incorrectly, wait for him to save them.
A floor leader PG needs to rear his head. It can be Beno at times, maybe more times than any of our other PG's, his weaker defense notwithstanding. But some else who brings the ball up court and starts the sets. Beno has a great spotup jumper and is very good jump shooter out to 3 pt line. He can drive and dish and being a lefty has some advantage there.
But it doesn't happen.
Same with Coach sticking with Landry. JT comes in and does great twice in arow. Landry could well be the 6th man a roll he played well in Houston and last year. But Westphal loves him for some reason. And comments above by Bajaden about Cousins sink home as well. He is getting better but Cousins is a year away from being really good and 2 yr from being possibly great. He still doesn't get the difference between college vs. NBA fouls. Sure he is learning, but so is Tyreke and Omri and Greene and JT. Dalembert is Dalembert and a force in the middle on defense and last night his 10 pts were icing on the metaphorical cake (tho no cake for the Kings for sure). But Dalem is not a leader type. Somebody needs to step up and be that leader or the Kings struggle to make 25 wins much less 35 this year. We are 1/6 into the 82 games and have won 4.
A floor leader PG needs to rear his head. It can be Beno at times, maybe more times than any of our other PG's, his weaker defense notwithstanding. But some else who brings the ball up court and starts the sets. Beno has a great spotup jumper and is very good jump shooter out to 3 pt line. He can drive and dish and being a lefty has some advantage there.
But it doesn't happen.
Same with Coach sticking with Landry. JT comes in and does great twice in arow. Landry could well be the 6th man a roll he played well in Houston and last year. But Westphal loves him for some reason. And comments above by Bajaden about Cousins sink home as well. He is getting better but Cousins is a year away from being really good and 2 yr from being possibly great. He still doesn't get the difference between college vs. NBA fouls. Sure he is learning, but so is Tyreke and Omri and Greene and JT. Dalembert is Dalembert and a force in the middle on defense and last night his 10 pts were icing on the metaphorical cake (tho no cake for the Kings for sure). But Dalem is not a leader type. Somebody needs to step up and be that leader or the Kings struggle to make 25 wins much less 35 this year. We are 1/6 into the 82 games and have won 4.
RookieOfTheDay
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That's simply not true. Kobe spent his first few years as a Laker coming off the bench.
I think the main problem underlying everything is the use of Evans on offense. It's a hard one to deal with because the whole team concept is built and acted out on Evans being the ROY savior, best player on team, go-to guy all the time and especially in crunch time. To start with he should not be the prime player to bring the ball up court either on the fast break or otherwise. He should not be the primary up top dishing the ball. I think you would agree that doing this would be a massive change and would effect everything on offense. My feeling is that as hard as it would be, it would profit team play immensely and can be done with the players we have. Don't change the coach, just give him permission (and direction) to radically change how Evans is used and how the offense is initiated.
This is not aimed at last nights game but at the whole season to this point. I believe the problem I cite above is not with Tyreke, it is with the whole mind set of his being the money player therefore you have to play in the roll that has developed for him. Right now, to achieve what I am suggesting would take a change of attitude by the owners, the general manager, and the coach with a lot of hard work by the players. But I believe it would pay off for everyone including Tyreke.
This is not aimed at last nights game but at the whole season to this point. I believe the problem I cite above is not with Tyreke, it is with the whole mind set of his being the money player therefore you have to play in the roll that has developed for him. Right now, to achieve what I am suggesting would take a change of attitude by the owners, the general manager, and the coach with a lot of hard work by the players. But I believe it would pay off for everyone including Tyreke.
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I have to disagree here. After seeing several complaints about Tyreke's play in the late third/fourth quarters last night I went back and rewatched the game, and Tyreke, while he wasn't moving as well as he was in the first half, was not the problem. The vast majority of the bad sets were run by Beno or Head, with Beno's drive and baseline pass to Donte probably the only good team-oriented play he made in the last 15 minutes of the game. Beno also had a nice, in-rhythm elbow jumper. But the rest was junk. When Tyreke left the game, the offense completely stalled out, and when he came back in, none of the shot clock violations or turnovers were his fault. When Tyreke passes to Cousins in the post, and Cousins makes a gangly butterfinger flub on a spasmodic move to the basket, is that Tyreke's fault? At least he got it into the post, which is more than can be said for either Beno or Head in the last 15 minutes.
Tyreke at the point was absolutely not the problem last night. Tyreke at the SG? Absolutely. He doesn't move well without the ball, probably for three reasons. One, he's not used to it. Two, his feet and ankles are hobbled right now. Three, his man doesn't have to play up on him because his jumper still isn't credible. I think we all agree that Tyreke needs to develop a credible jumper. I think we all agree that Tyreke needs to get healthy. I think we all would like Tyreke to move better without the ball. But right now, Tyreke's main strengths are in transition, and attacking the basket (whether to shoot or to create), and he needs the ball in his hands to do that. Maybe - maybe - we would play to his skills better if we had a Steve Nash PG, but we don't. We have Beno and we have Head. Neither are capable of setting up an offense as inept as ours. Just watch the first 4-5 minutes of the fourth quarter, when Tyreke was on the bench, for evidence of that.
CruzDude
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Also agree with you Capt. Factorial for the most part. Tyreke as the PG is the issue. True, he does need the ball in his hands, but when there is no where to go (to the bucket?) due to 5 defenders in the middle he has to do something else before he gets into the mass in the middle. A step or two earlier, a dribble earlier would be a big help. If the other 4 whoever they may be at the time, knows this is now possible then likely they will start moving to get an open shot or easier drive to the basket. But right now, doesn't happen as long as Tyreke holds on to the ball too long in traffic.
bajaden
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El Correcto! Actually Kobe's first two years in the league were nothing to write home about. He had to go through his growing pains just like everybody else. What made Kobe great, was Kobe. He, like a lot of players with that so called potential label that come into the league, decided to work his butt off to get better. It didn't hurt that he was surounded by a lot of blue collar guys with a great work ethic. I'm no Laker fan. Quite the contrary. But you have to give the great players their due. And Kobe is a great player.
bajaden
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There's no doubt that Tyreke made a few mistakes in last nights game. But the whole thing started to go south in the second half when Tyreke went to the bench and Beno came into the game. Beno was just terrible. Head also had his bad moments. And I hate to say this, but it actually crossed my mind that Beno was doing it on purpose. He just did some things that I couldn't understand. I saw him ignore open shooters, and then pass up open shots as well causing shot clock violations. I was sitting there shouting at my TV, PASS THE BALL! Most of the damage was done with Tyreke sitting on the bench. And Thompson as well. And for a long period, Greene as well.
I'll grant you that when Tyreke finally came back into the game he tried to do too much, and he made mistakes. Tyreke in an interview even said that his foot is fine when its loosened up, but that sometimes when he sits too long during the game it tightens up and causes him pain again. He certainly looked like he had lost a step when he came back in.
Cousins had little impact on the game other than a few nice offensive rebounds and a couple of nice passes. I think his problem is that he has a warriors mentality. So when he comes into the game he wants to have an immediate impact. He wants to help the team win. As a result, he sometimes loses patience and starts rushing when he gets the ball. A very common trait for rookie big men. I would liken it to a football quarterback. I remember Steve Young or someone saying that when you arrive in the NFL everything seems to be moving twice as fast as in college. And after a couple of years, everything seems to slow down. Young said that sometimes everything seemed to be in slow motion. I think the NBA is very similar, and that it just takes a while for things to slow down in your mind. I also think that if you keep players involved in the offense, they have less of a tendecy to treat every possession as their last.
bajaden
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Here's a random thought, or question if you will. Its common knowledge that most of the teams are clogging up the middle in order to stop Tyreke. So other than Tyreke becoming superman, what do you do to combat that. So the first question should be, who are they clogging up the lane with. One would obviously be the man guarding Tyreke. So who else? Well I guess we can assume that because they don't respect Dalemberts shot, their cheating off of Dalembert. OK, so that two. So if we assume we can run a pick for Tyreke and take his man out of the equation, were back to one man and that man is likely a center, or a PF.
Now I'd be willing to put my money on Tyreke 99% of the time in a one on one with just about all the centers in the league. But when I went back and rewatched the game, it was obvious that they were getting help from a lot of places on the court.. That means we should have had someone wide open somewhere. Maybe even two people open. But when I went and rewatched some of the sequences, we didn't. Basicly because we're terrible at spacing the floor, and as a result, sometimes they can cover two of our players with just one man. In the first half, we spaced the floor well, and Thompson set some good picks for Tyreke opening up the lane for him. Thompson also benefited, when Tyreke kicked the ball back to him for open jumpers. Hooray, we finally ran the pick and roll successfully a few times.
My point is that its possible to open up the lane for Tyreke if we use picks to clear him of his man, and spread the floor to give him options if they cheat from the perimeter. What would really help is having at least one really good outside shooter, thats also capable of putting the ball on the floor, and coming off a quick screen if necessary. Of course this all requires getting into the offense quicker. Your not going to get an easy shot in 10 or 12 seconds everytime. So you can't keep burning 10 or 12 seconds of the shot clock just bringing the ball up.
I guess where I'm going with this, is that number one, its possible to free up Tyreke if we spread the floor properly, set a pick near the top of the key, and then use Dalembert or Cousins, whomever is in the game as a backdoor cutter as an option for Tyreke if their man cheats. Instead of thinking of the way they're defending Tyreke as a negative, make it a positive because of all the things you can do off of it. You should be able to make the other team pay. Right now thats not happening on a regular basis. All of this works better with Thompson in the starting lineup over Landry. Thompson is more mobile and can make the extra pass if necessary. He also sets better picks than Landry.
I guess that sounds like a lot of work to get one player open. But in reallity what your doing is using Tyreke to break down the defense and possibly get other players open as well as Tyreke. I'm a big fan of the motion offense. Both with the ball and bodies in movement. Many times going in opposite directions. It takes work and commitment, but its a beautiful thing when ran properly. Everybody gets to touch the ball. Keeps everybody involved and happy.
Now I'd be willing to put my money on Tyreke 99% of the time in a one on one with just about all the centers in the league. But when I went back and rewatched the game, it was obvious that they were getting help from a lot of places on the court.. That means we should have had someone wide open somewhere. Maybe even two people open. But when I went and rewatched some of the sequences, we didn't. Basicly because we're terrible at spacing the floor, and as a result, sometimes they can cover two of our players with just one man. In the first half, we spaced the floor well, and Thompson set some good picks for Tyreke opening up the lane for him. Thompson also benefited, when Tyreke kicked the ball back to him for open jumpers. Hooray, we finally ran the pick and roll successfully a few times.
My point is that its possible to open up the lane for Tyreke if we use picks to clear him of his man, and spread the floor to give him options if they cheat from the perimeter. What would really help is having at least one really good outside shooter, thats also capable of putting the ball on the floor, and coming off a quick screen if necessary. Of course this all requires getting into the offense quicker. Your not going to get an easy shot in 10 or 12 seconds everytime. So you can't keep burning 10 or 12 seconds of the shot clock just bringing the ball up.
I guess where I'm going with this, is that number one, its possible to free up Tyreke if we spread the floor properly, set a pick near the top of the key, and then use Dalembert or Cousins, whomever is in the game as a backdoor cutter as an option for Tyreke if their man cheats. Instead of thinking of the way they're defending Tyreke as a negative, make it a positive because of all the things you can do off of it. You should be able to make the other team pay. Right now thats not happening on a regular basis. All of this works better with Thompson in the starting lineup over Landry. Thompson is more mobile and can make the extra pass if necessary. He also sets better picks than Landry.
I guess that sounds like a lot of work to get one player open. But in reallity what your doing is using Tyreke to break down the defense and possibly get other players open as well as Tyreke. I'm a big fan of the motion offense. Both with the ball and bodies in movement. Many times going in opposite directions. It takes work and commitment, but its a beautiful thing when ran properly. Everybody gets to touch the ball. Keeps everybody involved and happy.
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The problem with that is that the defense will still be concentrated in the paint area. Rather than asking who they are clogging the lane with, its "why" ? Its because Tyreke loves to attack the rim at the top of the key, which makes it easy to shut Tyreke down, but it also makes it especially easy for the defense to rotate against the rest of our team. When Tyreke hangs around at the top of the key, the defense is pretty much split symmetrically, with 2 defenders at the right/left block and one who is manned up on Tyreke. This is exactly what the defense wants because it is so easy to rotate on defense, and it makes our offense spaced out predictably. This is what happens when Tyreke wants to attack from the top of the key and just so happens to be Reke's favorite position to play from. Weve seen Tyreke play from the right and left block to a higher degree of success. It draws the defense to any one side of the court, which exposes their weak side, which would allow us to get good spacing that could give us more options, instead of bad spacing that is easily defended and predictable. My point is that if Tyreke continues to attack from the top of the key, hes only making it harder for himself and the team. It is easier to defend in that position, than it is to score.
Also note that a PG usually hangs around at the top of the key / back court / perimeter area.
Kingster
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Here's a plan:
Get Tyreke's foot healthy again. (If they have to shut him down a few weeks prior to All-Star break to get it healed, do it).
Have Tyreke work with the best shooting coach in the world during the offseason.
Have Cousins work with a cardio and basketball expert to get him in Dwight Howard shape during the offseason. Also, have Cousins work with a great big man's basketball coach during the offseason.
Play Whiteside some during the second half of the season.
Have Whiteside work with a great offseason big man's coach during the offeason and continue his core strength training.
Make a trade and/or FA acquisition(s) that provides much needed quickness, athleticism, and outside shooting touch from the wing positions. No one-way players allowed., i.e. no players who only play one side of the ball. This team has too many of those already.
Obtain a multi-dimensional guard that provides ball handling redundancy at the off-Tyreke guard position. Nobody knows what the future Tyreke is going to be, so get an "insurance policy", or a stop-gap for his learning years. Should be able to shoot, work off the ball, create, and defend.
Get rid of the selfish players on this team - Beno and Landry.
Draft a great player in this coming draft: Mr. X, Tyreke, Cousins, and possible excellent FA/trade acquisition could form the core for years to come.
Challenge every player to come into camp into great shape next year and HIGHLY recommend experts that can provide coaching and workout guidance in the offseason.
Stick with Westphal. Give him a multi-year extension to send a much needed signal of stability for this organization. (If you think we might have a hard time attracting FAs now, just wait for the results if Westphal is fired).
Get Tyreke's foot healthy again. (If they have to shut him down a few weeks prior to All-Star break to get it healed, do it).
Have Tyreke work with the best shooting coach in the world during the offseason.
Have Cousins work with a cardio and basketball expert to get him in Dwight Howard shape during the offseason. Also, have Cousins work with a great big man's basketball coach during the offseason.
Play Whiteside some during the second half of the season.
Have Whiteside work with a great offseason big man's coach during the offeason and continue his core strength training.
Make a trade and/or FA acquisition(s) that provides much needed quickness, athleticism, and outside shooting touch from the wing positions. No one-way players allowed., i.e. no players who only play one side of the ball. This team has too many of those already.
Obtain a multi-dimensional guard that provides ball handling redundancy at the off-Tyreke guard position. Nobody knows what the future Tyreke is going to be, so get an "insurance policy", or a stop-gap for his learning years. Should be able to shoot, work off the ball, create, and defend.
Get rid of the selfish players on this team - Beno and Landry.
Draft a great player in this coming draft: Mr. X, Tyreke, Cousins, and possible excellent FA/trade acquisition could form the core for years to come.
Challenge every player to come into camp into great shape next year and HIGHLY recommend experts that can provide coaching and workout guidance in the offseason.
Stick with Westphal. Give him a multi-year extension to send a much needed signal of stability for this organization. (If you think we might have a hard time attracting FAs now, just wait for the results if Westphal is fired).
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bajaden
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I will admit that Tyreke likes to operate from the top of the key. But I've also seen him attack from the right wing and the left wing, although he seems to perfer the right wing. The point is that no matter where he sets up he should be able to get someone open. If you overplay one player you have to give up something to do that. What the Kings aren't doing is taking advantage of what the other team gives up. Now obviously they're going to try and help off of the Kings weakest offensive player, which is why player movement is so important. If we don't space the floor properly and also just stand around, were easy to defend. If they help off a player, then that player needs to move without the ball, and is some cases he can free up another player. The whole idea is break down the other teams defense. To confuse them. Right now I don't see much of that going on.
kingsboi
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The coach can stay, he has no offensive system to speak of but it doesn't help that his personnel isn't exactly productive. First off start with a new player or two to shake things up, and what I mean by that is a player who will produce for this team. Not a player that just does one thing, defense, offense.
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