[Game] California Classic 2023, Day 1 (7/3/2023): Kings vs. Warriors 7pm Pacific, 10pm Eastern

[sactowndog]

I'd rather put a couple million of eggs in Kessler and Slawson than 30M of eggs in a Jerami Grant. Flexibility! It's a high value approach.

that’s fine. We shall see if they pan out and if we regret passing on OMax.

 

[sactowndog]

I think this point has been stressed enough times, but the above statement is just wrong.

Our starting 5, which will also play the bulk of minutes is Fox, Huerter, Keegan, Barnes, and Domas. One is free to dislike this starting 5, and think that we should have someone else play the 3, but it's just not true that we are relying on Kessler and Slawson.

Now, an argument could be made that instead of bringing back Barnes, Monte could have gotten a more natural 3, and moved Keegan to 4. Without knowing what was available, at what price, what the coaching staff thinks of replacing Barnes' production on and off the court, and their thoughts on moving Keegan to 4, it is impossible to say that a better move was available.

The backup 3 minutes will be shared by Kessler, and we might also see more of Kevin/Monk there if we play 3 guard lineups. I honestly don't expect Cole-Slaw to get lots of minutes during the regular season. So, again, you can dislike this arrangement, but let's acknowledge the likely minutes distribution. Else, the entire discussion becomes meaningless.

BTW. Cole-slaw is brutal… I’m harsh but ouch….

 

[kingsfan101]

BTW. Cole-slaw is brutal… I’m harsh but ouch….

I liked it. Credit to Tetsujin.

 

[kingsfan101]

maybe. We need a defensive 3 which isn’t Barnes to step up. It’s why Mike started the season starting KZ. Barnes is best at stretch 4 and would be awesome coming off the bench as he can get his own shot.

Barnes is not coming off the bench. He's being paid starter money, and he's expected to be the starter, and play starter minutes.

Once Monte decided to sign Barnes, there was no space for another starter level player for wing position. Like/love/hate the move, but that's what we went with.

My limited point is that it's incorrect to say that we are relying on Kessler/Slawson for that position. They will play limited minutes (Slawson will likely spend most of the year in Stockton), with many of those minutes going to Sasha (had missed him in my last post), and even Kevin/Monk if we go small.

 

[Jc121]

All the doubts about Barnes not being a player we need. what I saw his role last year was more of a spot up shooter. Many times he gave us points when our offense stalled out By driving and muscling his way into the paint and scoring or getting to the line.

I think he is a player we need and it seems to be what the coaches think also. I feel when Keegans game really takes off and and if sasha’s is the player we hope he is Barnes new contract or not he will be moved.

 

[km23]

Do not call that man cole slaw, wth

 

[serbiangoat]

Do not call that man cole slaw, wth

If he doesn't pan out we can always switch it to cold slaw

 

[Rain man]

maybe you should recheck the stats:

Since you are not going to believe anything I say go to NBA.com, get the data, and post Catch and shoot 3 point percentage your self for the players I listed. If you can find it post corner Catch and Shoot 3’s and see how close Kessler compares to them as it is more relevant.

I DID go to nba.com. All the stats I posted are from there. As I noted, I posted overall 3 point shooting, which I think is most relevant, as it shows the total ability to shoot outside. You can parse out specific shots to prove your point, but to me, the fact that someone was 20-50 on CS corner threes, is a lot less relevant than them being 200-500 in all threes. You can parse out tiny sample sizes to prove almost anything. Hence why I focused on overall threes- a stat where Kessler is 35% career, and ahead of luminaries such as Brooks, Thuybulle, and season. Seems relevant to what Jessler can become.

 

[km23]

If he doesn't pan out we can always switch it to cold slaw

Let’s hope not !

 

[Rain man]

catch and shoot 3’s

Kessler Edwards. 32.1%
Dillon Brooks. 35.6%

now I agree Brooks takes a lot of dumb shots but he is a much better catch and shoot 3 point shooter than Edwards currently.

BTW. It’s not that hard to look up the data before spouting off.

Agree. Which is why I did. And then acknowledged that I made the mistake of looking at a different stat set than you. I acknowledged I was wrong. Imagine that on a message board.

But I was only wrong about understanding the stat set you looked at. My stats weren’t wrong. I looked at overall three point shooting, which I firmly believe is a better indicator to judge a three point shooter than just looking at catch and shoot threes. And in that metric Kessler is better than brooks and way better than you give him credit. But yeah, let’s disregard the threes he made on the move or off the dribble because they aren’t catch and shoot threes.