Bynum to the Kings

xyrin

xyrin

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I found this trade on realgm, and it seems to make perfect sense:

Kings Outgoing: Artest and #10 Pick
Kings Incoming: Bynum and Radmanovic, #19 Pick

Lakers Outgoing: Bynum, Radmanovic, Brown, Farmar, #19 Pick
Lakers Incoming: Camby and Artest

Nuggets Outgoing: Marcus Camby
Nuggets Incoming: Brown, Farmar, #10 Draft Pick

Kings get the young center that can block, rebound, etc that they have needed for a LONG time.

Lakers need to help Kobe (he is complaining about help), so they get him Artest and Camby to help Kobe win it all.

Nuggets might get rid of Camby, so they get a nice pick and cap relief.
 
What an insightful comment, Vlade4GM!

Care to explain your reasoning instead of just using a smilie?
 
I'll do it... Bynum is mediocre, Radman is a soft extremely poor man's Peja... And a pretty crappy draft pick all for Artest and a #10 pick? 9 spots in the draft is alot... Secondly, how is Denver going to give up reigning DPOY Marcus Camby, their leading rebounder Marcus Camby, for Kwame Brown, Jordan Farmar, and a draft pick?

Lastly, this trade signifies keeping a ship afloat. As much as Artest needs to go, we need to let them go for cap room and good young players.
 
I am interesting in getting Bynum and Farmer from the Lakers.

However, giving up Artest and pick 10 for Bynum, crappy Radmanovic and pick 19 is just way too much to give on our end.
 
lakersground.net has a thread about a similar trade except its brown, farmar and #19 for artest... and also another with vlad added for reef...

id do that... we wouldnt be much better but we would definitely be taller....
 
Everybody talks about how good Bynum is GOING to be, i dont see it, but at this point i would risk that for a chance to step our game up...but please, no Rodmunch!
 
SacKings384 said:
Secondly, how is Denver going to give up reigning DPOY Marcus Camby, their leading rebounder Marcus Camby, for Kwame Brown, Jordan Farmar, and a draft pick?
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Supposedly, Camby is on the trading block. Denver wants some cap relief, and they get it with this trade.

http://www.realgm.com/src_wiretap_archives/45957/20070504/camby_to_end_up_on_the_block/

NikateeN said:
Everybody talks about how good Bynum is GOING to be, i dont see it, but at this point i would risk that for a chance to step our game up...but please, no Rodmunch!
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Kevin Garnett, Age 19, Per 48 Stats: 14.6 Points, 2.3 Blocks, 8.3 Rebounds
Andrew Bynum, Age 19, Per 48 Stats: 14.2 Points, 2.9 Blocks, 10.8 Rebounds

I think Bynum has the potential to be a great player.

jimbodan said:
Drop the Kings draft pick from the mix, swap in expirings for Vlad and then we'll talk.
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I guess we COULD do that, considering the Lakers are getting alot in this trade (potentially contenders after this). Plus, they will have more pressure considering Bryant has demanded more help (and he gets A LOT of it in Artest and Camby).
 
SacKings384 said:
I'll do it... Bynum is mediocre, Radman is a soft extremely poor man's Peja... And a pretty crappy draft pick all for Artest and a #10 pick? 9 spots in the draft is alot... Secondly, how is Denver going to give up reigning DPOY Marcus Camby, their leading rebounder Marcus Camby, for Kwame Brown, Jordan Farmar, and a draft pick?

Lastly, this trade signifies keeping a ship afloat. As much as Artest needs to go, we need to let them go for cap room and good young players.
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Thats why you would do this?...:confused:
funny, thats exactly the reason why i WOULDN'T do this.
I think a lot of people are highly undervaluing our 10th pick in this draft...
 
no kidding

center, odom, artest, bryant, pg

they have the 10th pick also, pick a nice PG or a roleplaying Center with the 10th pick and they are really in the mix.
 
xyrin said:
I found this trade on realgm, and it seems to make perfect sense:

Kings Outgoing: Artest and #10 Pick
Kings Incoming: Bynum and Radmanovic, #19 Pick

Lakers Outgoing: Bynum, Radmanovic, Brown, Farmar, #19 Pick
Lakers Incoming: Camby and Artest

Nuggets Outgoing: Marcus Camby
Nuggets Incoming: Brown, Farmar, #10 Draft Pick

Kings get the young center that can block, rebound, etc that they have needed for a LONG time.

Lakers need to help Kobe (he is complaining about help), so they get him Artest and Camby to help Kobe win it all.

Nuggets might get rid of Camby, so they get a nice pick and cap relief.
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so were giving our most hated rival the opportunity to become a championship contender by giving them ARTEST AND CAMBY!!!!????

We get a center who will NOT be getting trained by kareem anymore meaning he will just have to develop by himself. Everyone is just portraying him to be good, but even flashes havent really showed me much.

Then we get a Peja divided by 2 or even 3. Injury prone with no defense or rebounding skill whatsoever. Spot up shooter who is simply inconsistent and streaky.

Lastly a #19 pick. Woopy dee doo?
 
1 TeAm DiMe 0 said:
so were giving our most hated rival the opportunity to become a championship contender by giving them ARTEST AND CAMBY!!!!????

We get a center who will NOT be getting trained by kareem anymore meaning he will just have to develop by himself. Everyone is just portraying him to be good, but even flashes havent really showed me much.

Then we get a Peja divided by 2 or even 3. Injury prone with no defense or rebounding skill whatsoever. Spot up shooter who is simply inconsistent and streaky.

Lastly a #19 pick. Woopy dee doo?
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While I agree that the trade is pretty crappy from our part, this sort of reasoning should be the last thing on our minds. What we should be thinking about is how do WE improve in this trade. Do we get enough potential for a proven thing?

The last thing we should be thinking about is trying to make it hard for our rivals. We are not contenders. Won't be for some time and we do get into contention, Bryant and Artest won't be formidable anymore. Simple as that.
 
I don't know if I would do this trade. I don't know much about Bynum. But I think if you can get a hold of a young tall guy, you have to at least think about it, especially if all you are giving up is a cancer. However losing a draft pick in this draft might not be the wisest move for a team that is looking to rebuild. I would do it in a heartbeat without the draft pick.
 
xyrin said:
What an insightful comment, Vlade4GM!

Care to explain your reasoning instead of just using a smilie?
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The lakers aren't trading Bynum for anything less than a star 2 way big and we're not trading our lottery pick. The end.
 
Just drop the #10 pick from the deal altogther and let #19 + whatever the lakers can give more to appease the Pacers....Artest for Bynum/Radmanovic is still questionable in my eyes.
 
xyrin said:
Nuggets Outgoing: Marcus Camby
Nuggets Incoming: Brown, Farmar, #10 Draft Pick
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This trade defeats the purpose by ADDING 2 millions (4 mil if they actually draft a young player w/ that pick) to the Nugget's cap next season.

What Denver wants is to trade Camby to a well-below the cap team (Atlanta?) who can absorb his contract w/o giving high salary in return. Also, they won't trade Camby to a western conference rival. Period.
 
I keep our #1 pick.

Forget about Rad, unless his contract expires soon.

I ask for the Lakers' 2009 #1 pick. By that time, Artest is out of the league.
 
I dont think the lakers would trade bynum for Artest, Kwame for artest and some fillers seems more likely.

I think that they will use Bynum for a Jason Kidd, jermain oneal deal.
 
they didnt trade bynum for kidd before the season ended

and as for us...no way on earth would I be willing to get radman on this team...long, nasty contract for a streaky shooter who plays zero D.
 
Smills91 said:
And that was a mistake.
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Was it? Kidd is a very very short term solution, who might get them into the second round. Maybe. Bynum could end up being quite good -- is a reason they aren't eager to dump him. Assuming Kobe does not bail on them, he could/should be Kobe's center from about the time Kobe hits age 30 until the end of his career.
 
Bricklayer said:
Was it? Kidd is a very very short term solution, who might get them into the second round. Maybe. Bynum could end up being quite good -- is a reason they aren't eager to dump him. Assuming Kobe does not bail on them, he could/should be Kobe's center from about the time Kobe hits age 30 until the end of his career.
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Kidd has 2-3 years left in the tank and has 3 years left on his deal. Then he becomes a huge trade asset as an expiring contract. With KIDD/BRYANT/ODOM the Lakers have a legitimate shot of winning any given series this year....now they're in the same position they were in at the deadline, but another year in the playoffs down the drain. Kobe as 4-5 more years left in the level that he's playing at before he declines.
 
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